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Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 3:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is a quick one, let's see how fast you people can solve this one...
I happen to own an moped-like electric scooter, which I ride around my neighborhood. When I go around my block clockwise, it takes longer than if I were to go around my block counterclockwise. Why is this?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

any of these relevant:
Hills?
Traffic control features?
Pedestrian safety features?
Your personality?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This seems counter-intuitive - in heathen countries where they drive on the right, (a) the route around a block is shorter driving clockwise; (b) it takes less time to make four right turns than four left turns. Do you live in an exceptional neighborhood?
L. Jacobs (Tweek)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does your neighborhood have one-way streets? Narrow streets? Do you make any shortcuts in either route? Is your moped lookalike on streets that a normal-sized car could drive on in all cases?

Is the width of the moped thing relevant? The height? Would this happen if you were in a motorcycle? On a bicycle?

Is there a sidewalk on one side and not the other? Are there potholes on one side of the street? Am I close?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

any of these relevant:
Hills? No
Traffic control features? What's that? It could be helpful to explore?
Pedestrian safety features? no
Your personality? no

This seems counter-intuitive - in heathen countries where they drive on the right, (a) the route around a block is shorter driving clockwise; (b) it takes less time to make four right turns than four left turns. Do you live in an exceptional neighborhood? no

Does your neighborhood have one-way streets? no Narrow streets? no Do you make any shortcuts in either route? no Is your moped lookalike on streets that a normal-sized car could drive on in all cases? yes

Is the width of the moped thing relevant? no The height? no Would this happen if you were in a motorcycle? yes On a bicycle? yes

Is there a sidewalk on one side and not the other? No, there isn't a sidewalk on either side Are there potholes on one side of the street? no Am I close? Yope...
L. Jacobs (Tweek)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Traffic lights? A stop sign? Some other device to control traffic flow? Traffic relevant?

No sidewalk, so you have to take the street?

How much longer - driving at normal speed, would it take you - a few seconds longer? a minute or less? two minutes? five? ten? longer?

Is the delay merely the problem of more distance to cover? Is there a drawbridge in your neighborhood? Does traffic block a left turn at some point but not a right? Happens to me all the time. Are you in a roundabout?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Traffic lights? No A stop sign? Yes, this should be easy to solve now Some other device to control traffic flow? no Traffic relevant? no

No sidewalk, so you have to take the street? yes

How much longer - driving at normal speed, would it take you - a few seconds longer?This one a minute or less? I guess this one too, since a few seconds is less than a minute two minutes? five? ten? longer?

Is the delay merely the problem of more distance to cover? no Is there a drawbridge in your neighborhood? no Does traffic block a left turn at some point but not a right? No Happens to me all the time. OK Are you in a roundabout? no
L. Jacobs (Tweek)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, for whatever reason, you are able to take a route that isn't impeded by a stop sign, or, more accurately, you are able to legally cross an intersection without stopping, when you circle your neighborhood counterclockwise, rather than clockwise?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, for whatever reason, you are able to take a route that isn't impeded by a stop sign, or, more accurately, you are able to legally cross an intersection without stopping, when you circle your neighborhood counterclockwise, rather than clockwise? YES! You got it! $poiler to follow...
L. Jacobs (Tweek)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is a quick one, let's see how fast you people can solve this one... - Two hours. Credit goes to Woubit, though.
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

********SPOILER*********************************************
I happen to own an moped-like electric scooter, which I ride around my neighborhood. When I go around my block clockwise, it takes longer than if I were to go around my block counterclockwise. Why is this?
This is because one of the intersections around my block is a two way stop, rather than a four way stop. When I go counterclockwise, I avoid the stop.

Good work, only took you a couple of hours or so

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