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David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 7:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is some component of this emotion to do with awe? with confusion? with fear? with a feeling of insignificance?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 07:35 pm:


Is some component of this emotion to do with awe? no with confusion? no with fear? no with a feeling of
insignificance? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 7:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is excitement involved?
Are the rituals significant?
Is there more significant content to the researched material other than rituals?

Are any of these involved in the research?:
drugs?
dance?
music?
eating?
drinking?
relationships?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 8:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 07:58 pm:


is excitement involved? no
Are the rituals significant? yope
Is there more significant content to the researched material other than rituals? yes

Are any of these involved in the research?:
drugs? no
dance? no
music? yope
eating? yope
drinking? no--I assume you mean booze
relationships? yes
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there ONE significant ritual?
Is love involved? sex?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 8:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

similar thoughts to Tommy but I'll ask anyway..

Are carnal relations involved?
Is marriage or similar union involved?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 9:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y Tommy Petersson (Tommyp) on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 08:33 pm:


Is there ONE significant ritual? no
Is love involved? yes sex? yes

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 08:36 pm:


similar thoughts to Tommy but I'll ask anyway..

Are carnal relations involved? yes
Is marriage or similar union involved? yes Despite my affirmative responses, you're somewhat OWT
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 8:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is some relationship with a deity involved?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 08:07 pm:


Is some relationship with a deity involved? in the religion? Yes. In Freesia's puzzling emotion? no
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did this project involve observing other people? of a particular race? creed? social class?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 12:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y David Burn (Woubit) on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 11:36 pm:


Did this project involve observing other people? yes of a particular race? no creed? yes.VERY G:O:OD QUESTION!!!! social class? no
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 12:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these people Christians? Jews? Muslims? Hindus? Sikhs? Buddhists?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 1:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 12:44 am:


Are these people Christians? yes Jews? no Muslims? no Hindus? no Sikhs? no Buddhists? no
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 1:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it matter to which particular Christian sect they belong?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 2:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 01:53 am:


Does it matter to which particular Christian sect they belong?You bet!!
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 3:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am not sure that the LTPF List of Christian Sects is well-formed, but I will make a start: Adventists? Baptists? Anabaptists? Lutherans? Christian Scientists? Presbyterians? Methodists? Anglicans? Roman Catholics? Mormons? Quakers? Amish? Messianic Jews? Pentecostalists?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Episcolopins?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the emotion related to God? or to a deity (or deities) of any kind?
is it relevant whether she was religious herself? was she?
was her own religious belief called into question by her studies?
did the emotion relate to a change in her religious beliefs?
is the emotion caused by a sudden realisation that God does not exist? that there is no higher power? that we are 'on our own'?

would the emotion be more pleasant to an atheist than a religious person?


is Holy Communion relevant here? nuns? monks? abstinence of any sort?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 03:12 am:


I am not sure that the LTPF List of Christian Sects is well-formed, but I will make a start:
Adventists? Baptists? Anabaptists? Lutherans? Christian Scientists? Presbyterians? Methodists?
Anglicans? Roman Catholics? Mormons? Quakers? Amish? Messianic Jews? Pentecostalists? none of the above

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 04:58 am:


Episcolopins? no

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 04:19 pm:


is the emotion related to God? no or to a deity (or deities) of any kind? no
is it relevant whether she was religious herself? yope was she? possibly
was her own religious belief called into question by her studies? no
did the emotion relate to a change in her religious beliefs? no
is the emotion caused by a sudden realisation that God does not exist? no that there is no higher
power? no that we are 'on our own'? no

would the emotion be more pleasant to an atheist than a religious person? no difference expected


is Holy Communion relevant here? no nuns? no monks? no abstinence of any sort? noish
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is any time period relevant?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 06:14 pm:


Is any time period relevant? yes
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are children relevant here?
did her research look at children in some way?
was she studying the way people of a particular creed dealt with children? was she looking at the way children became 'adult' members of their religion?

was she studying conversion to a particular creed?
was she studying an extreme religious sect? an exclusive one?
was she studying a group which kept to 'old fashioned' ways? like the Amish?

the people who might find this emotion pleasant - do they share the same sort of outlook on life? the same politics? the same religious beliefs? the same beliefs about child rearing? the same beliefs about parenthood?
to find this emotion pleasant would a person have to be a liberal? well educated? left wing? adventurous?