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Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:10 pm:

What sort of table would this be placed on:
Dining?
Coffee?
Occasional?
Other? any table that is capable of displaying the object. Some go directly on the floor. Depends on the size
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 7:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do the people who buy these items have something in common (other than the fact that they buy them)?

You said they may have electrical parts:
Do you plug it in?
Does it use a source of power?

Is it used in conjunction with anything else?
Or is it completely stand alone?

Does it have any educational value?
Purely decoration?
Purely Recreational?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 12:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 07:17 pm:

Do the people who buy these items have something in common (other than the fact that they buy them)? no - all walks of life may buy them

You said they may have electrical parts:
Do you plug it in? you can do
Does it use a source of power? no

Is it used in conjunction with anything else? no
Or is it completely stand alone? yes

Does it have any educational value? the original ones did, but nowadays that's not the principal reason for having one
Purely decoration? it depends on how you view them...
Purely Recreational? ...because this plays a major part
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a globe of the planet?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 1:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 12:17 pm:

Is it a globe of the planet? - no (I think they are still sold for educational purposes)
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One of those table-top snooker tables?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 5:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some form of Time Piece?
A Barometer or some other instrument?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 03:43 pm:

One of those table-top snooker tables? no - was there ever an educational aspect to them? :)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 05:42 pm:

Some form of Time Piece? no
A Barometer or some other instrument? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I was thinking of a globe when I asked about spherical, and an orrery is neither boxlike nor non-mechanical, so I suppose that's out as well...

When one interacts with it, does one move parts of it? Is it no longer considered educational? Has what it taught been proven/is now considered to be inaccurate? Were they first created less than 100 years ago? 200? 300?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 4:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it have any function other than simply acting as a novelty to simply look at?

Does it have any lids, drawers or doors?
Does it have any buttons, switches or levers?

For those that go directly on the floor do they just have a bottom or do they have feet?

Does it have any sharp bits?
Does it ever contain leather?
Is it mainly made from wood?
Are the modern ones made of plastic at all?

Are they classed as collectables? Antiques?
Have you ever seen on Antiques Road Show or similar programs?

Is it a piece of office equipment like a writing desk? Desk Tidy?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 7:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 03:50 pm:

Well, I was thinking of a globe when I asked about spherical, and an orrery is neither boxlike nor non-mechanical, so I suppose that's out as well...

When one interacts with it, does one move parts of it? yes Is it no longer considered educational? not really, although there are plenty of aspects that are educational, it's not its prime purpose Has what it taught been proven/is now considered to be inaccurate? no Were they first created less than 100 years ago? 200? 300? I would reckon the oldest would be about 2-300 years old

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 04:36 pm:

Does it have any function other than simply acting as a novelty to simply look at? yes

Does it have any lids, drawers or doors? all of these
Does it have any buttons, switches or levers? could have all of these

For those that go directly on the floor do they just have a bottom or do they have feet? some may sit on stands with feet, or be flat based

Does it have any sharp bits? might do
Does it ever contain leather? could well do
Is it mainly made from wood? the main part, yes
Are the modern ones made of plastic at all? yes but by no means all - more are made of wood

Are they classed as collectables? if they are of sufficient quality, then yes Antiques? some certainly are if they are old enough
Have you ever seen on Antiques Road Show or similar programs? yes

Is it a piece of office equipment like a writing desk? Desk Tidy? no to both
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 12:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a Dolls House (or something similar)?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If not the above in waht way was it educational in the past?

For children?
For Adults?
About Living Skills?
About other peoples / cultures?
Geography?
History?
About languages?
About economics / anything mathematical?
Something Scientific?
Musical?
Something else?

Is it something to do with sewing or crafts?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 2:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 12:05 pm:

Is it a Dolls House (or something similar)? YES!

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 01:10 pm:

If not the above in waht way was it educational in the past?

For children?
For Adults?
About Living Skills?
About other peoples / cultures?
Geography?
History?
About languages?
About economics / anything mathematical?
Something Scientific?
Musical?
Something else?

Is it something to do with sewing or crafts?

the original ones were in cabinets and used to show young ladies about running a house

RECAP

We have an advertisement making a ridiculous claim about a dolls house. What was the claim?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A Doll's House is an interesting play?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 03:06 pm:

A Doll's House is an interesting play? nah :)
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"This Fantastic Doll's House will Amuse Your Daughter and keep her occupied for hours on end"

"A life like example of Victorain Britain"

"An investment for the Future"
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 03:16 pm:

"This Fantastic Doll's House will Amuse Your Daughter and keep her occupied for hours on end" that's not so ridiculous :)

"A life like example of Victorain Britain" getting closer

"An investment for the Future" again, not too ridiculous as there is a market for good collectable ones
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Relive the past and feel what it was like for your ancestors living at home in days of yore"

"Prepare your child for her future so that she can learn how to keep her own home with this wonderful all bells & whistles Doll's House"

"This Dolls House is so life like that you won't be able to tell the difference between from the real thing"
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Your beloved daughter will never pester you for the latest Video Game nor ever want to watch the TV again once you present her with this wonderful Doll's House"
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Who needs the Internet once you've got your own Dolls House?"
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 03:42 pm:

"Relive the past and feel what it was like for your ancestors living at home in days of yore" not quite

"Prepare your child for her future so that she can learn how to keep her own home with this wonderful all bells & whistles Doll's House" no

"This Dolls House is so life like that you won't be able to tell the difference between from the real thing" not quite - although some pictures of miniatures are indeed so lifelike you are hard pushed to tell the difference between 1/12 scale and full size

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 03:44 pm:

"Your beloved daughter will never pester you for the latest Video Game nor ever want to watch the TV again once you present her with this wonderful Doll's House" nope

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 03:45 pm:

"Who needs the Internet once you've got your own Dolls House?" they've obviously not looked at my website - but no (oh, and eBay's best users in the early days were miniaturists due to the ease of posting little things)
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 4:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Look into this House and See your Granparents making their home"

Is there one principle we are looking for?
Is it about capturing the past?
About miniturization?
Other?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 4:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 04:01 pm:

"Look into this House and See your Granparents making their home" that sounds like a wonderful children's storyline, but no

Is there one principle we are looking for? yes - and one that is not limited to dollshouses, although this 'took the biscuit'
Is it about capturing the past? yessish
About miniturization? no
Other? yessish
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 5:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Easy-to-assemble authentic Victorian dollhouse modeled after a Real Victorian House built in 1933?"

The unlikely part being the "easy-to-assemble" bit...
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 6:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 05:18 pm:

"Easy-to-assemble authentic Victorian dollhouse modeled after a Real Victorian House built in 1933?"

The unlikely part being the "easy-to-assemble" bit...

you have the essence of it except for the easy to assemble bit which is irrelevant here

****** SPOILER *********

And advertisement from the Dolls House Emporium offers a dollshouse called Stratford Place.

"Stratford Place is an authentic Tudor property!"

According to Dictionary.com the second (relevant) definition of authentic is
Having a claimed and verifiable origin or authorship; not counterfeit or copied

The house is not Tudor - it was built in 2004/5
The house is not authentic - it was built in 2004/5
The house is not even a good copy. It doesn't look like Tudor - maybe stockbroker belt des res with black beams instead of the original oak (oak is not black - oak furnishings turn black over the years due to wear, tear and smoke)
There are no rats and sewage swimming around like an 'authentic' one would have. There is no wattle and daub or stones or bricks between the beams - just MDF or something similar.
It has electric wiring.
And I could be mistaken, but I don't think they even had dolls houses in Tudor times.

Now, if they said 'authentic looking' ....

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