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David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Arjun (Jun) on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:25 pm:

The eruption of Krakatoa was indirectly the cause for Shelley to move to Geneva? no - neither Shelley nor his wife actually moved to Geneva
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Dref (Dref) on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:27 pm:

Is the famous gathering that Mary Shelley participated in at Lord Byrons villa relevant here? well, Shelley and his wife were staying at Byron's villa by Lake Geneva when Mary Shelley wrote "Frankenstein", yes
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 3:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Mary's nightmare which helped inspire Frankenstein relevant?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Dref (Dref) on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 03:01 am:

Is Mary's nightmare which helped inspire Frankenstein relevant? no. But the truth is out there...
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
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Just to clarify, was there any connection between the eruption and the Shelleys being at the villa?

I had thought there was some sort of contest at the villa at the time (who can come up with the scariest/most horrific story or some such), is the volcano relevant to the contest?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 03:20 pm:


Just to clarify, was there any connection between the eruption and the Shelleys being at the villa? no

I had thought there was some sort of contest at the villa at the time (who can come up with the scariest/most horrific story or some such you had thought correctly, or so legend has it :) ), is the volcano relevant to the contest? not as such, but...
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there any vehicles relevant here?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Dref (Dref) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:50 am:

Is there any vehicles relevant here? no, there ain't
Dref (Dref)
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Did the eruption enter into Mary's thoughts in a way later important to the writing of the novel?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Dref (Dref) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 04:37 am:

Did the eruption enter into Mary's thoughts in a way later important to the writing of the novel? no - I am pretty sure that Mary Shelley knew nothing whatever about the eruption of Mount Tambora. However...
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
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Was there someone else present at the villa whose plans had been disrupted by eruption?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 3:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 03:04 pm:

Was there someone else present at the villa whose plans had been disrupted by eruption? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the eruption responsible in some way for the writing of the story? Did it influence Ms. Shelley in some way? Did it influence someone else in some way? Did it cause a publisher to look at/agree to publish the book?

Was it a secondary effect of the eruption which was more causal? Something atmospheric, maybe?

I've not read the book, but I believe it's told as based on a diary or journal found on a shipwreck in the arctic or some such--is that at all relevant?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 05:56 pm:

Was the eruption responsible in some way for the writing of the story? indirectly, yes Did it influence Ms. Shelley in some way? no, but... Did it influence someone else in some way? no Did it cause a publisher to look at/agree to publish the book? no

Was it a secondary effect of the eruption which was more causal? yes, indeed Something atmospheric, maybe? very much so :)

I've not read the book, but I believe it's told as based on a diary or journal found on a shipwreck in the arctic or some such indeed it is --is that at all relevant? unfortunately not, but good thinking :)
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Must...not...quote...Bulwer-Lytton...must...not...quote...

Did the eruption cause particularly gloomy weather in Geneva? Spooky weather?

Did the ash/darkening of the sky in a given region contribute somehow?

Was it something witnessed by Ms. Shelley herself?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 6:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 06:17 pm:

Did the eruption cause particularly gloomy weather in Geneva? not just gloomy, but... Spooky weather? not this

Did the ash/darkening of the sky in a given region contribute somehow? indeed

Was it something witnessed by Ms. Shelley herself? yes
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 6:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Might there have been some lightning? Dramatic meteorological effects?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 06:39 pm:

Might there have been some lightning? indeed there might, but this is not really important Dramatic meteorological effects? not all that dramatic. It just...
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
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Was it very dark?

Did it seem that the sun didn't come up? Or the stars/moon had been blotted out?

Is it more that if not for the eruption she'd not've told the story to others?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 07:43 pm:

Was it very dark? yes

Did it seem that the sun didn't come up? there were a lot of very serious clouds about, yes Or the stars/moon had been blotted out? this isn't recorded. The darkness isn't really the important aspect of the weather.

Is it more that if not for the eruption she'd not've told the story to others? well, if it had not been for the consequence of the eruption, she may never have written it at all...
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As I understand it, the eruption led to dramatic climate changes for a while...

Is the crop destroying frost caused by the eruption the relevant factor here?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Dref (Dref) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:00 pm:

As I understand it, the eruption led to dramatic climate changes for a while... exactly so

Is the crop destroying frost caused by the eruption the relevant factor here? no - nothing so complex :) Dark clouds, lightning, and of course...
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rain and thunder? snow?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Dref (Dref) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:42 pm:

Rain this is the important factor and thunder? snow?
Dref (Dref)
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Were the two Shellys stuck longer in the villa than planned due to the rain?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Dref (Dref) on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 09:07 pm:

Were the two Shellys stuck longer in the villa than planned due to the rain? no, but I think that is close enough :

***** SPOILER *****

On the 12th of November 1815, Mount Tambora in Indonesia began a series of eruptions that did not cease until July of the following year.

It was the biggest volcanic disaster in recorded history, killing more than ninety thousand people and ejecting so much ash into the atmosphere that global temperatures dropped by an average of three degrees Celsius.

In the northern hemisphere, 1816 became known as "the year without a summer". On the shores of Lake Geneva, Mary Shelley and her husband, the poet Percy Bysshe Shelley, were trapped indoors for days on end by constant rain. The villa belonged to George Gordon, Lord Byron, who suggested that the company amused themselves by having a competition to write a ghost story.

Byron and Shelley, though first-rate poets, were not in the same class when it came to tales of the supernatural. But Mary Shelley's Frankenstein has become a classic of the genre, and gave us a figure that remains popular to this day - though in fact, Frankenstein in Mary's work was the name of the Baron who created the monster, not of the creature itself. World-famous he may be, but Frankenstein was made in Indonesia.

Well done everyone. Another woubit puzzle will appear as soon as I can think of one.
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The creatures name in the book is Adam, by the way. ;)

Fine puzzle, sir.

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