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Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 9:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He wrote a joke. A good one. But he hoped nobody would ever read it.
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 9:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Monty Python relevant? ;)
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Monty Python relevant? ;) No, the joke was good, but not outright deadly :)
buzz visconti (Visconti)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 9:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

if someone read the joke, would they discover:
...that "he" killed someone?
...that "he" did somethign illegal?
...that he was a liar?
...that "he" was dead?

if someone else told the joke would it be funny? would it make sense?

is "he" famous?

is it a racist joke?

does the joke involve a chicken, a road, and a question about reasoning?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 9:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, now some serious questions: ;)

Was the joke racist? bawdy?

Any crime relevant here?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 9:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

if someone read the joke, would they discover:
...that "he" killed someone? no
...that "he" did somethign illegal? no
...that he was a liar? no
...that "he" was dead? no

if someone else told the joke would it be funny? the joke doesn't work when told, but it would be as funny if someone else had written it would it make sense? it has to be in a specific context

is "he" famous? no

is it a racist joke? no

does the joke involve a chicken, a road, and a question about reasoning? neither

Was the joke racist? no bawdy? no

Any crime relevant here? no
buzz visconti (Visconti)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 10:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

would the person who read it learn something other then just having a good laugh?

does the joke involve a picture? could this scenerio have the same result if it took place 5 years ago? 25 years ago? 100 years ago?

is the joke geographically specific? could this happen in any country?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 11:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

would the person who read it learn something other then just having a good laugh? no

does the joke involve a picture? no could this scenerio have the same result if it took place 5 years ago? it did 25 years ago? no 100 years ago? no

is the joke geographically specific? yesish, but this might mislead could this happen in any country? depends on what you mean by 'this'
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he write this joke anywhere specific? on paper? by hand? on a computer? did he broadcast this joke? was it written in such a way that anyone who read what he had written and spoke the same language he did could (a) understand the words? (b) understand why it was a joke?

Is "he" human? real? alive?... well, I trust you to remember the rest of the standard boring questions, even after all this time :)
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 3:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he write it in a private diary? journal?
Did anyone else actually read it? If so, did he know they had read it?
If someone did read it, would they or did they tell him?
If so, I might have an idea what is going on.
Katy (Katy)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Welcome back Martin!
Was the joke anything to do with his death? Someone else's death? Some event he didn't want to occur?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he write this joke anywhere specific? yes indeed on paper? no by hand? yes on a computer? no did he broadcast this joke? no was it written in such a way that anyone who read what he had written and spoke the same language he did could (a) understand the words? yope and FA (good lord, I'm pretty postive I never had to give this answer before) (b) understand why it was a joke? only when read in the right context

Is "he" human? real? alive?... well, I trust you to remember the rest of the standard boring questions, even after all this time :)
I do. This is more or less an urban legend, but for the sake of this puzzle, let's pretend it was real (it might be).
At any rate, he is a real human adult male, alive at that time, his occupation is relevant. Noone else is relevant.



Did he write it in a private diary? no journal? no
Did anyone else actually read it? no If so, did he know they had read it?
If someone did read it, would they or did they tell him? Probably, but I doubt there would be any need for that.
If so, I might have an idea what is going on. I'm afraid it differs from my solution, but you are free to mail me.


Welcome back Martin! :)
Was the joke anything to do with his death? no, this is a woubit-friendly puzzle without death, dance, or similar hazards. Someone else's death?
Some event he didn't want to occur? *Y*E*S*
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the joke, at some point, "expire" or cease to have the same meaning as it did at an earlier time?

Does the context of the joke pertain mostly to:
time?
geographic location?
the fact that this particular man wrote it?

Longshot: Would the joke have been not funny if future events happened in a different way than the writer expected them to?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 4:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it written on something that wasn't intended to return to earth? Like a spacecraft of some kind? Or something that wasn't intended to remain in one piece (like a bomb/explosive)?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 6:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Natural disasters relevant?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 11:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the joke, at some point, "expire" or cease to have the same meaning as it did at an earlier time? no, but ...

Does the context of the joke pertain mostly to:
time? this, but mostly...
geographic location? this. Explore.
the fact that this particular man wrote it? this is totally irrelevant. There are more aspects of the context, so keep exploring.

Longshot: Would the joke have been not funny if future events happened in a different way than the writer expected them to? This is on the right track, but he did not expect them to happen in a way the joke would be "funny"...


Was it written on something that wasn't intended to return to earth? yes, good question Like a spacecraft of some kind? no, but on the right track Or something that wasn't intended to remain in one piece (like a bomb/explosive)? no


Natural disasters relevant? no
buzz visconti (Visconti)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 2:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does this involve a balloon

this a situtation where someone sent something (a balloon? a message in a bottle?) that he didnt expect to return but returned some time later? or it not returned sometime later, was read at a later time?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does this involve a balloon no

this a situtation where someone sent something (a balloon? a message in a bottle?) that he didnt expect to return but returned some time later? it didn't return or it not returned sometime later, was read at a later time? I'm not sure I understand this. It was never read. And it was out of the question for the item with the message on it to return.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 3:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the item put in a time capsule?
Was the item buried? Sent out to sea?
Sent into space somehow?
Does the subject of the joke relate to:
the earth?
the moon?
another planet?
a certain country? city? region?
continent?
the human race?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the item put in a time capsule?
Was the item buried? Sent out to sea?
Sent into space somehow? this
Does the subject of the joke relate to:
the earth?
the moon?
another planet? this
a certain country? city? region?
continent?
the human race?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this joke on the disk on Voyager? or somewhere similar? is it a joke about aliens? who, if they did read it, might be prompted to obliterate the Earth? are Vogons relevant?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 9:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this joke on the disk on Voyager? no or somewhere similar? noish is it a joke about aliens? indirectly, yes who, if they did read it, might be prompted to obliterate the Earth? no are Vogons relevant? no
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the joke about a specific planet?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the joke about a specific planet? no

Hint: The "joke" are only three letters
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

SOS? CQD?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

SOS? CQD? no to both but keep 'em coming :)
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is beginning to sound like Bodo's "Write-only memory" puzzle. Are these three letters a common acronym?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is beginning to sound like Bodo's "Write-only memory" puzzle. Are these three letters a common acronym? I wouldn't call them common, but I recently saw them in a puzzle here.
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To make it easier, was it in Bodo's puzzle? :)
I guessed PMM in his puzzle I remember
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they related to information technology?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To make it easier, was it in Bodo's puzzle? :) Not as far as I know. It was in one of woubit's recently solved puzzles.
I guessed PMM in his puzzle I remember no thats not it

Are they related to information technology? no
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PTO then?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PTO then? Indeed. All that's left now is minor detail - sp0iler to follow.
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He wrote PTO on both sides of a piece of paper and sent it out to space? Hoping no alien would find it, and if he did, that would keep him occupied for millions of years :)?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***** SPOILER *****

He wrote a joke. A good one. But he hoped nobody would ever read it.

There's a rumor that one of the NASA technicians wrote "PTO" (Please Turn Over) on the bottom side of "Sojourner", the mars rover.
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Or did he write it on part of the spacecraft itself? A bit that should have dispatched itself off to the mall at the end of the universe?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I take it the other NASA guys still wouldn't have laughed had the mars rover flipped over...
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Should have refreshed before posting

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