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Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 8:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gary have some kind of disability that made it difficult for him to get on one knee? Gary paralyzed? In a cast? Have some health related condition?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gary have some kind of disability that made it difficult for him to get on one knee? Gary paralyzed? In a cast? Have some health related condition? No to all of these
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 8:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some mutual hobby relevant? Do Gary and Ashley have some kind of hobby or activity they are involved in that is relevant?

Did Gary propose on one knee? Was he standing? Sitting?

The other guys hiding Gary until the critical moment?

The guys pulling some kind of prank?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 9:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some mutual hobby relevant? No, but see the hint below if you'd like a clue
Do Gary and Ashley have some kind of hobby or activity they are involved in that is relevant? No, except for what's mentioned in the hint

Did Gary propose on one knee? Was he standing? Sitting? Not really relevant, but he was probably standing

The other guys hiding Gary until the critical moment? No

The guys pulling some kind of prank? No

HINT: It is very possible that Ashley and Gary were lateral puzzle fans.
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 9:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the guys bring any costumes for this proposal?
Any equipment necessary (e.g. strings, boxes, props) to accomplish this proposal?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the guys bring any costumes for this proposal? Not per se, but read on (good question)
Any equipment necessary to accomplish this proposal? Yes
e.g. strings, boxes, No...
props Yes
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Gary ask her to marry him by saying "Will you marry me?"? Did he say something else? Did he say anything?
Did Bill or Harold say anything? relevant?
Did Ashley have to figure out that Gary was proposing (i.e. it wasn't obvious at first)?
Could Gary have proposed in the same manner with no friends present with him? just one friend? more than 2 friends?
Is anything relevant about Bill individually apart from Harold? vice versa?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Gary give the proposal as a puzzle of some kind?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 2:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Gary ask her to marry him by saying "Will you marry me?"? NO, but you have hit on a key to the solution so explore!
Did he say something else? No...
Did he say anything? NO, Gary did not speak
Did Bill or Harold say anything? No, they didn't speak either
relevant? Yes
Did Ashley have to figure out that Gary was proposing (i.e. it wasn't obvious at first)? Yes, this was the case
Could Gary have proposed in the same manner with no friends present with him? No
just one friend? No
more than 2 friends?No
Is anything relevant about Bill individually apart from Harold? vice versa? There's something relevant about both of them, but not as separate individuals (that may be redundant, I'm sorry)
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Gary give the proposal as a puzzle of some kind? YES
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 3:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Gary propose using charades-like symbols (including the aforementioned props)?
Do we need to guess how he represented each word of his proposal?
Did he propose by "saying" 'be my wife?' or 'please by mine forever'?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Gary propose using charades-like symbols (including the aforementioned props)? No
Do we need to guess how he represented each word of his proposal? Yes
Did he propose by "saying" 'be my wife?' or 'please by mine forever'? No, it wasn't one of these phrases, but you've got the right idea
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 3:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the phrase consist of 3 words, one for each of the 3 of them? Was one of the words "be", and one of them had a physical bee? or letter B?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 3:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the phrase consist of 3 words, one for each of the 3 of them? Yes and no - see if you can rephrase this q
Was one of the words "be" No
and one of them had a physical bee? No
or letter B? No, but this is the right idea
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 4:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the proposal a single sentence? two? three?
proposal include:
Was the puzzle a play on words? Anagram? A lateral puzzle? I'll take Relationships for $2000 Alex?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the proposal a single sentence? Yes
proposal include:
Was the puzzle a play on words? Yes
Anagram? No
A lateral puzzle? Not exactly, but Ashley would have used that kind of logic to figure out what was being said
I'll take Relationships for $2000 Alex? Sure, as long as you don't soak me for upwards of $1 million like that guy from Arizona did...
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 12:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I thought he was a nice LDS boy from Utah...

Was their clothing relevant? Were they (or at least one of them) wearing (a) costume(s)? Was it in essence a three-dimensional rebus?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 3:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

oooohhhh! Light bulb! ding ding ding! I'm 99% sure I got it. I'll back off and let others have a shot, but just to be sure...

She knew Bill and Harold, correct?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was their clothing relevant? Strictly speaking no, but you may want to explore a bit more here
Were they (or at least one of them) wearing (a) costume(s)? No, not costumes
Was it in essence a three-dimensional rebus? Yes

oooohhhh! Light bulb! ding ding ding! I'm 99% sure I got it. I'll back off and let others have a shot, but just to be sure...

She knew Bill and Harold, correct?
She likely did, but even if she had never met them she still would have figured out what Gary wanted to communicate

Send me an e-mail if you think you know it
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 3:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ok. I'll sit back and watch now.
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 1:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they have pictures on their clothing? words? letters?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they have pictures on their clothing? No
words? Yes
letters? Well, yes, put together in the form of words ;)
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 9:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they have words on their clothes that were used to convey the proposal?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Harold use a nickname?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 5:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they have words on their Yes
clothes Sort of
that were used to convey the proposal? Yes
Does Harold use a nickname? Yes, in a sense - you're on the right track here
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 6:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sort of clothes? Ok, then, were they each wearing a sign around their neck?

Does the order that they were standing on Ashley's doorstep in matter?
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it obvious for the young lady that Gary is making the proposal, and not one of the other guys?
Are their names relevant?
Did the phrase consist of three words?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 8:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sort of clothes? Ok, then, were they each wearing a sign around their neck? Yes
Does the order that they were standing on Ashley's doorstep in matter? Yes
Was it obvious for the young lady that Gary is making the proposal, and not one of the other guys? Yes - it's safe to assume that Gary is the only one who would have made an attempt to propose to Ashley
Are their names relevant? Yes
Did the phrase consist of three words? Yes

You can spoil when ready...
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

take it away, Jens. I'm pretty sure that I've got it.
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Bill's name really William or Will? :)
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Bill's name really William YES
or Will That may be a variation, but that name won't work for Gary's plan
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So they had on name tags? And William was standing to Harry's right, and Gary to Harry's left? Such that from Ashley's perspective William is on the left and Gary on the right?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So they had on name tags? Yes
And William was standing to Harry's right, and Gary to Harry's left? This would work, yes
Such that from Ashley's perspective William is on the left and Gary on the right? Yes - the order from Ashley's perspective would put Harry in the center, William to her far left and Gary to her far right
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 4:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is this solved? the message is William Harry Me ('will you marry me')?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 4:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think this puzzle is pretty much over, but seeing that no one has yet posted....

Will (William) [you] marry (Harry) me/Gary (Gary)? Something like that?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

S P O I L E R


the message is William Harry Me ('will you marry me')?

PRECISELY!

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