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Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 2:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He shot his horse. Then he shot himself.
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 2:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he a cowboy? real person?

Horse = Mr. Ed?
dryman (Dryman)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 7:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

for each shooting, does shot=bullet? photography? injection? something else?

were either/both of the shots lethal?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Fred Z (Dref) on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 02:23 am:


Was he a cowboy? Irrelevant. Sure. real person? Yes.

Horse = Mr. Ed? No!

By dryman (Dryman) on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 07:23 am:


for each shooting, does shot=bullet? Yes. photography? injection? something else? No.

were either/both of the shots lethal? Horses= irrelevant. His=yes.
Rose (Tackybritish)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 6:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they racing?
When you say irrelevant that the horse was shot are you really saying the horse is fake? Are there two "he's"?
He shot himself because he's crazy?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Rose (Tackybritish) on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 06:30 pm:


Were they racing? Nope.
When you say irrelevant that the horse was shot are you really saying the horse is fake?No. Are there two "he's"? No.
He shot himself because he's crazy? No.

Earlier when I said 'yes' to 'real person?', I meant that he is a real live man, not that this was an actual incident.
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His horse: a horse he owned? and/or had been riding?
Was he riding it when he shot it?
Was it already dead?
Did he intend to shoot it?
Did he think he was shooting something else? another horse?
Did he need the horse to get somewhere? or to escape from something? and shot himself after realising that this was no longer possible?
The horse was incapacitated after he shot it? and this is why it doesn't matter if the shot was lethal?
Did he intend to shoot himself? and kill himself?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 8:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 07:49 pm:


His horse: a horse he owned? Yes. and/or had been riding? Yes.
Was he riding it when he shot it? No.
Was it already dead? No.
Did he intend to shoot it? Yes.
Did he think he was shooting something else? No. another horse? No.
Did he need the horse to get somewhere? No, or at least that wasn't on his mind. or to escape from something? No. and shot himself after realising that this was no longer possible? No.
The horse was incapacitated after he shot it? Irrel. and this is why it doesn't matter if the shot was lethal? no.
Did he intend to shoot himself? Yes.and kill himself? Yes.
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the horse and its owner in unusual conditions (desert island, snow storm)?

Did the man shoot the horse/himself because of an assumption? If so, was the assumption true/false?

Did he intend to shoot himself when he was shooting the horse?

How long did he intend to shoot the horse/himself before actually doing it? seconds/minutes/hours/days/weeks/months/years?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 2:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Alizon (Alizon) on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 09:04 pm:


Were the horse and its owner in unusual conditions (desert island, snow storm)? Yes.

Did the man shoot the horse/himself because of an assumption? Not really. If so, was the assumption true/false?

Did he intend to shoot himself when he was shooting the horse? No.

How long did he intend to shoot the horse/himself before actually doing it? seconds/minutes/hours No longer than this. /days/weeks/months/years?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 2:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the horse injured?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 2:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No.
Batman (Ashusharma)
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 5:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How long was the gap between the two shootings - seconds? minutes? hours?
Did he intend to kill the horse?
Did his shot miss the horse? Is this relevant?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Batman (Ashusharma) on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 05:22 pm:


How long was the gap between the two shootings - seconds? minutes?Most likely this. hours?
Did he intend to kill the horse? Yes.
Did his shot miss the horse? No. Is this relevant? Yesish.
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he shoot anything else?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No.
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was anyone riding the horse when he shot it?
Was it carrying anything?
Was it moving? away from him? quickly?
Did he know it was his horse?
Did the first shot have any other effect besides injuring/killing the horse?
If so, is this effect related to the unusual conditions they were in?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:47 am:


Was anyone riding the horse when he shot it? No.
Was it carrying anything? YES.
Was it moving? away from him? quickly? Irr.
Did he know it was his horse? Yes.
Did the first shot have any other effect besides injuring/killing the horse? YES.
If so, is this effect related to the unusual conditions they were in? Somewhat.
Batman (Ashusharma)
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the horse under water? On solid ground? Relevant?
Was he under water? On solid ground? Relevant?
Did the bullet also go through whatever the horse was carrying? Was this his intention?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the object the horse was carrying necessary for his survival?
Did he shoot himself to avoid dying some other way?

Did he intend to eat the horse after shooting it?
but the bullet hit his bottle of water?
and he shot himself rather than die of thirst?
Batman (Ashusharma)
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good thoughts John! :)

Is the location where this happened relevant?
In a desert? In a city? On earth?
Did his first bullet also hit something other than the horse? Is this relevant?
Were there more people around when this happened?
Is anyone else involved in the story (other than him and his horse)?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he intend to eat the horse after shooting it?
but the bullet hit his bottle of water?
and he shot himself rather than die of thirst?
Precisely.
***********SPOILER is nicely wrapped up in the above questions. Good job John!
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

According to some authorities, Clark Gable's first line on screen was:

Water? Do I need it! I've had to shoot my horse.
Batman (Ashusharma)
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good puzzle Eliot!

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