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(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Eric got the job thanks to a reference who had been dead for 1,000 years.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Eric = human? adult? male?
Relevant what type of job Eric got? employed, paid work?
Is Eric's age relevant? time period relevant?
Is this a true story?
'Who' = a human? adult? male?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

Eric = human? adult? male? Yes yes yes.
Relevant what type of job Eric got? employed, paid work? It is relevant, and he was paid for it.
Is Eric's age relevant? No, as long as he's old enough to work.
time period relevant? Modern-day.
Is this a true story? Based on something true. It very well could be true.
'Who' = a human? adult? male? The dead reference was human, adult, and male.
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The reference: an actual document from the long-dead guy? or something mentioned in his resume or c.v about the long-dead guy?

Eric's job: archaeology? anthropology? linguistics? history? one of the hard sciences (e.g. biology, chemistry, etc?) one of the soft sciences? (sociology, psychology? etc?)
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Written reference?
reference = someone you give as a referee when applying for a job?
Would this puzzle work if the reference was 500 years old?
Did Eric get a job in:-
Entertainment?
Sport?
Retail?
Trading?
Travel?
In a shop?
One of the emergancy services?
banking?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab):

The reference: an actual document from the long-dead guy? or something mentioned in his resume or c.v about the long-dead guy? The latter.

Eric's job: archaeology? anthropology? linguistics? history? one of the hard sciences (e.g. biology, chemistry, etc?) one of the soft sciences? (sociology, psychology? etc?) None of these, though I suppose there's an historical aspect to it.

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

Written reference? No
reference = someone you give as a referee when applying for a job? Yes
Would this puzzle work if the reference was 500 years old? Tough question; it would work if this puzzle took place 500 years ago rather than today (how's that for cop-out answer?)
Did Eric get a job in:-
Entertainment? Sort of this...
Sport?
Retail?
Trading?
Travel?
In a shop?
One of the emergancy services?
banking? ...Not really any of the others.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he an artist? something to do within singing? acting? dancing? a comedian? magician?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

Was he an artist? something to do within singing? acting? This is closest, but not in a very traditional sense.
dancing? a comedian? magician?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A puppeteer? a mime artist? some sort of perfomer? Did he appear on TV? film? theatre?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would the puzzle work if the reference had been dead for 500 years?
1,000 = one thousand?
Did the reference die one thousand years before Eric got the job?
Was Eric involved in reconstructing some historical event?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

A puppeteer? a mime artist? some sort of perfomer? I suppose 'performer' is most accurate.
Did he appear on TV? film? theatre? None of these, unless your definition of 'theater' is very loose.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he one of those people that dress up a character at tourist attractions? and act out the people used to live?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When did Eric get this job?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

Was he one of those people that dress up a character at tourist attractions? Yes
and act out the people used to live? ..and yes, nicely done.

By David Burn (Woubit):

When did Eric get this job? Just recently - puzzle is set in the present.
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this anything to do with Leif Ericsson?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there someone in particular who died 1000 years ago? someone famous? did Eric have a particular physical characteristic or personal connection with this dead person? Did Eric share something with the dead person?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm on second thoughts that should read "Did Eric share a physical characteristic or personality trait with this dead person?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had Eric done extensive research on the person? discovered something about him? proved something about him? Would historian connect Eric's name to the dead man's (I'm thinking about the way that Bruce Catton's name is connected to the American Civil War for a lot of folks.)
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 1:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit):

Is this anything to do with Leif Ericsson? In a roundabout way, yes.

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

Is there someone in particular who died 1000 years ago? someone famous? There is a person, not necessarily someone famous. One aspect of the dead man is relevant.
did Eric have a particular physical characteristic or personal connection with this dead person? Eric was connected to him in a certain way, yes.
Did Eric share something with the dead person?

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab):

Had Eric done extensive research on the person?
He had done a bit of research.
discovered something about him? proved something about him? Would historian connect Eric's name to the dead man's (I'm thinking about the way that Bruce Catton's name is connected to the American Civil War for a lot of folks.) Good questions - no, Eric hadn't discovered anything historically noteworthy, and neither Eric's nor the dead man's name is well known.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 2:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are either of the men's nationalities relevant?Are any of the following relevant about the dead man:
Physical feature?
Occupation?
Status in society?
Personality trait?
an illness?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 3:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

Are either of the men's nationalities relevant?
Yes, both (they are of the same nationality).
Are any of the following relevant about the dead man:
Physical feature?
Occupation? Yesish
Status in society? and Yesish
Personality trait?
an illness? No to the others
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they:
British?
European?

Was the dead guy a ruler? king? or some other royal figure? servant? soldier?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 7:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Eric a decendant of the long-dead guy? Are diaries, letters, or other such remnants relevant?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

Are they:
British? No
European? Yes

Was the dead guy a ruler? king? or some other royal figure? servant? soldier? Could be a ruler, could be a soldier ... suffice it to say he most likely was a relatively prominent figure. There is no famous person you need to identify by name, though, as long as you have the general idea.

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab):

Is Eric a decendant of the long-dead guy? Yes.
Are diaries, letters, or other such remnants relevant? Yes, Eric has proof in the form of one or more of these of his relation to the dead guy.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 11:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dead Fred = (well I think he needs a name!)
Viking? Anglo Saxon? Roman?
Norwegian? French? Greek? Turkish?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 3:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Dead Fred (love the name!) from the time? place? society? that is the subject of Eric's re-enacting? Did the diaries/letters help Eric have a better grasp on what he'd be doing than other applicants for the same job? Did he come across better in the job interview? Did he mention the documents on his CV? Offer to let the site use? display? them while he was working there?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora):

Dead Fred = (well I think he needs a name!) Absolutely
Viking? Yes!
Anglo Saxon? Roman?
Norwegian? French? Greek? Turkish?

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab):

Is Dead Fred (love the name!) from the time? place? society? that is the subject of Eric's re-enacting? Yes he is.
Did the diaries/letters help Eric have a better grasp on what he'd be doing than other applicants for the same job? Did he come across better in the job interview? Did he mention the documents on his CV? These are all true enough...
Offer to let the site use? display? them while he was working there? And I think that's good for the...
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***** SPOILER *****

Eric got the job thanks to a reference who had been dead for 1,000 years.

Eric's ancestors were vikings, this helped him land the following job (excerpted story from AP):

OSLO, Norway - Help wanted: Vikings. Must be friendly, tourist-oriented and interested in ancient Norse traditions. Crazed, bloodthirsty pillagers need not apply.
 
In a rare employment opportunity for Vikings, whose job market peaked about 1,000 years ago when they terrorized Europe in their longboats, southern Norway's Vestfold county wants to fill slots at its local historical park.

The ad, to appear in local media Saturday, will be simple: "Jobs available. Vikings in Vestfold," with a link to the center's Internet home page, said Lars Kobro, self-described chieftain of the Midgard Historical Center.

"More and more we see that tourists are interested in Vikings," Kobro said Tuesday. "They don't want just exhibits, but face-to-face encounters."

He said they are seeking a corps of about 50 part-time Vikings, ready to turn out at the center when needed.

Thanks to all who played!
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 5:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interestingly enough, I've seen that ad posted to a historical re-enactment group's mailing list here in the States. One of the members is applying, although I don't think that she's got any documents she can use as a bribe... Even so, I didn't think of it while doing the puzzle. Very nice!

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