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CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 2:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tom and Willy are never apart, yet people only see one boy.
How is this possible?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 4:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is exactly one of Tom and Willy actually a boy? Is Tom a boy? Is Willy a boy?
Is Tom a cat? Is Willy a girl?
Is Willy a nickname Tom uses for, er...?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 5:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Tom Willy's imaginary friend? is Willy Tom's?
CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 7:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 04:52 pm:

Is exactly one of Tom and Willy actually a boy? no
Is Tom a boy? yes Is Willy a boy? yes
Is Tom a cat? no Is Willy a girl? no
Is Willy a nickname Tom uses for, er...? yesish


By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 05:19 pm:

Is Tom Willy's imaginary friend? is Willy Tom's? see last answer to Mosquito
CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 1:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The mystery writer in me has decided to throw in an unusual twist. Careful or it will throw you off.

Tom and Willy are, strictly speaking, cousins.
HotBod (Hotbod)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 5:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are Tom and Willy two different people? Humans? Boys?

Is willy a nickname? Is tom? Is tom's nickname Willy?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 8:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Strictly speaking cousins:
where 'cousin' is defined as broadly as both person's have a parent who is part of an immediate family?
or whose parent has the same parents? very slight but important difference

Are Tom and Willy multiple personalities of the one person?
CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 12:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By HotBod (Hotbod) on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 05:57 am:

Are Tom and Willy two different people? to answer this would give away the answer to the puzzle. Anyone wanting the sp0i1er, e-mail me
Humans? yes Boys? yes

Is willy a nickname? no Is tom? not really Is tom's nickname Willy? no


By Benjamin Moore (Zenith) on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 08:35 am:

Strictly speaking cousins:
where 'cousin' is defined as broadly as both person's have a parent who is part of an immediate family? don't know exactly what you mean, but I don't think it's this
or whose parent has the same parents? if I understand you correctly, it's this
very slight but important difference

Are Tom and Willy multiple personalities of the one person? yesish

now I am going to bed... I am very tired
HotBod (Hotbod)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Siamese twins relevant?
CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By HotBod (Hotbod) on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 12:10 pm:

Siamese twins relevant? no
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it possible for Tom and Willy to occupy exactly the same space at the same time?

Do Tom and Willy have exactly one parent who is the same? Two parents?

Could Tom and Willy also be referred to as brothers?

Are both Tom and Willy real, existing human beings? If not, which one isn't - Tom? Willy?

Are one of the boys always hidden in some way, so that people only ever see one of the two?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To expand this question: Is it possible for Tom and Willy to occupy exactly the same space at the same time?

If no, is this for physical reasons (e.g. because no two separate human beings can do such a thing)? Or mental reasons (e.g. they are both multi-personalities, and so only one can be 'dominant', the other would have to be 'dormant')?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is one a spy/superhero/etc and the other his secret identity?
CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 2:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ed Mason (Logician) on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 11:00 pm:

Is it possible for Tom and Willy to occupy exactly the same space at the same time? yes!

Do Tom and Willy have exactly one parent who is the same? Two parents? this is difficult to answer

Could Tom and Willy also be referred to as brothers? not really

Are both Tom and Willy real, existing human beings? yes If not, which one isn't - Tom? Willy?

Are one of the boys always hidden in some way, so that people only ever see one of the two? in a manner of speaking, yes


By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 11:07 pm:

Is one a spy/superhero/etc and the other his secret identity? no, but the answer is somewhat similar to this
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 2:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he adopted by his aunt and uncle and they changed his name?
CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 2:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To clarify a question I answered when I was very tired...

By Benjamin Moore (Zenith) on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 08:35 am:

Strictly speaking cousins:
where 'cousin' is defined as broadly as both person's have a parent who is part of an immediate family?
or whose parent has the same parents? very slight but important difference

The "fathers" of Tom and Willy are brothers. I put "fathers" in quotes for the same reason as I said they were stickly speaking cousins. The reason is part of the puzzle
CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 2:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

**********SPOILER**********


By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 02:08 am:

Was he adopted by his aunt and uncle and they changed his name?

!!!!!YES!!!!!
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 2:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

nice twist! :) so which was which?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 2:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tricky! Very good puzzle.
CanadaGirl (Canadagirl)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 7:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Willy is his original given name. Tom is his adoptive name. You may have seen signs of the order in some of my answers to the questions that were asked.

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