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Dref (Dref)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What I meant was..
Was he stashed into a bag MEANT for a bowling ball? yes, that's the ticket

Or something else that would normally contain a bowling ball?

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 09:31 am:

Was there a direct physical communication between the bowling alley and the morgue (through which Amarillo) could have been travelled? no

Was Sam going bowling? yes
Did Sam put / carry Amarillo rolled up in a container that would normally contain a bowling ball? yes, now all you need is how he got the armadillo (Amarillo) to and from the body
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 4:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do you mean how he concealed the armadillo once in the building, getting it from the front door to the body or do you mean how he physically got Amarillo in range of the body to eat the head?

i.e did he still have to use clever clandestine methods to ensure that the Armadillo was not discovered (even after getting it into the building and even after getting into the same room as the body)?

Did he carry his bowling bag right into the same room as the body?
Were people watching in the room?
Was he alon with Amarillo in the room?

On getting Amarillo to the body - at the time was the body:

Suspended?
On a slab?
In a drawer?
Other?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Sam one of the morticians?

Did he drop by the morgue on the way to Mortician's Bowling Night?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do you mean how he concealed the armadillo once in the building, getting it from the front door to the body or do you mean how he physically got Amarillo in range of the body to eat the head? latter

i.e did he still have to use clever clandestine methods to ensure that the Armadillo was not discovered (even after getting it into the building and even after getting into the same room as the body)? no, he just stuck it back into the bowling ball case

Did he carry his bowling bag right into the same room as the body? no
Were people watching in the room? no
Was he alon with Amarillo in the room? no, FA

On getting Amarillo to the body - at the time was the body:

Suspended? this
On a slab?
In a drawer?
Other?

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 05:48 pm:

Was Sam one of the morticians? yes

Did he drop by the morgue on the way to Mortician's Bowling Night? no, other way around
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he treat the suspended body as though it were a basket, skillfully lobbing the curled up armadillo (just as he would a basketball) landing him right on the top of Jim's head?

Subsequently the armadillo feasted upon the flesh of Jim's head?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fred - your mailbox is bouncing
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 1:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He dropped by the morgue on the way home from Bowling Night? Had he had Amarillo in his car while he was bowling, then took his bowling ball out of the bag, put Amarillo in and took him into the morgue that way?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 6:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he treat the suspended body as though it were a basket, skillfully lobbing the curled up armadillo (just as he would a basketball) landing him right on the top of Jim's head?

Subsequently the armadillo feasted upon the flesh of Jim's head? nah, his approach was much more subtle, he could not enter the ID room directly because he would have been seen

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:31 am:

Fred - your mailbox is bouncing I'd better tell it to calm down then. ;)

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 01:20 am:

He dropped by the morgue on the way home from Bowling Night? no, he was at the morgue first to meet with the others who were going bowling Had he had Amarillo in his car while he was bowling, then took his bowling ball out of the bag, put Amarillo in and took him into the morgue that way? He never took the ball, he went to the alley and claimed he changed his mind and returned to the morgue. He was a real sneak!
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, do we have to discover how Sam got Amarillo into the ID room unnoticed?

Did Sam enter the ID room himself?
Was there a passage other than the door?
Did he go through the ceiling?
(Lower him from above?)
Did he conceal Am arillo inside something else?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, do we have to discover how Sam got Amarillo into the ID room unnoticed? yes

Did Sam enter the ID room himself? NO
Was there a passage other than the door? no
Did he go through the ceiling? yes, well a grate close to the ceiling anyway
(Lower him from above?) YES
Did he conceal Am arillo inside something else? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, once in the building Sam took Amarillo into the loft above the ceiling a and tied him to a rope. Then he lowered him into the ID room and near to teh corpse where upon the hungry armadillo did his stuff?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If not in the loft, he acessed the grate from a different level and did the same thing as outlined above?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, once in the building Sam took Amarillo into the loft above the ceiling a and tied him to a rope. Then he lowered him into the ID room and near to teh corpse where upon the hungry armadillo did his stuff? basically, yes

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 09:15 pm:

If not in the loft, he acessed the grate from a different level and did the same thing as outlined above? Basically, yes...

Well, guess that is it, then. Good job, Simon and all participants.

***** SPOILER *****

Armadillo's eat carrion, so the murderer used this to conceal the victims indentity (the victim was known to have a grudge with him) by dangling his pet Armarillo from a string through a grate unto the victims head. Whn the head was eaten away, he raised the armadillo back through the gate. It was bowling night, so he used this as a ruse by keeping his pet in a bowling ball shaped case.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great Imaginative stuff with all the usual gore!

There was a young puzzler called Fred
Who earned lots of lateral cred
Using scifi and mystery
With Lucas Arts history
Or cadavers and corpses instead
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Very nice! :)

Thank you.
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 12:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Very good puzzle! What's the name of the story? I'd like to read it.
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 3:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks.

It was called "The Sphereical Ghoul." I'm not sure where you would find it, but I found it in a short story collection of locked room murder mysteries.
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 5:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll look for it, thanks.
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 1:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fun puzzle! And I think, "Was it bowling night at the morgue?" is probably the weirdest question I've ever gotten a positive response to!
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And in my humble opinion "Bowling night at the morgue" would have been a superior title tfor the story!

:)
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry. "The Spherical Ghoul." I badly misspelled that one. :)
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 1:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

'The Spherical Ghoul' by Fredric Brown (1943)
(Suberbly original locked-room mystery of the 'Speckled Band' sub-category)
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 1:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I googled it myself to see what would come up, so that looks quite familar... ;)

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