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Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A small theft prevented a large one.
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Declaration of Independence?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the noun that committed the small theft try to prevent the large theft?
Was the theft committed by people? How many? (check the best answer)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15+
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they steal the thieves' shotgun?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 05:08 pm:


Declaration of Independence? No, why?

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 05:11 pm:


Did the noun that committed the small theft try to prevent the large theft? No.
Was the theft committed by people?Yes How many? (check the best answer)
1 Check. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15+

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 05:17 pm:


Did they steal the thieves' shotgun? No, good one though.
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything relevant about the PERSON who did the theft? If so, tell me what it is.
Did he steal the treasure map? And if he didn't, the pirates would steal the treasure? So he prevented the large theft?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 05:42 pm:


Anything relevant about the PERSON who did the theft? Vaguely. If so, tell me what it is. I'm afraid that isn't a yes or no question :)
Did he steal the treasure map? And if he didn't, the pirates would steal the treasure? So he prevented the large theft? Nope.
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he steal money? Jewels? Gold? Silver? Guns? Fried chicken? Fire extinguishers?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the small theft cause the people to think, "Oh man I guess we had better increase security around here!" So they paid $10,000 for a state of the art security system which caused the big theft to not occur?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 7:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think I got it - someone stole a fireman's crossbow (which he later deducted as a business expense) thereby preventing him from napping a dying nun's cow.

Did he steal an item that otherwise would have later been used in a theft? Did he steal a tool of some sort?
An electronic device?
IP? An identity?
A plan, map, or document?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the item stolen...
paper?
plastic?
wood?
cloth?
glass?
art?
painted?
metal?
precious metal?
stone?
precious stones?
semi-precious stones?
animal?
vegetable?
mineral?
electronic?
a combination of materials?
Another material not listed here?
Lana (Lana)
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they steal something that was generally considered valuable to everyone? Or was it just that one person? Was it stolen for personal gain? If it wasn't stolen would more than one person get involved? Does this come from a book?movie?T.V?comic? radio? your own imagination?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 05:48 pm:


Did he steal money? Jewels? Gold? Silver? Guns? Fried chicken? Fire extinguishers? H. None of the above.

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 05:50 pm:


Did the small theft cause the people to think, "Oh man I guess we had better increase security around here!" So they paid $10,000 for a state of the art security system which caused the big theft to not occur? No, I've known that to happen though.

By (Stuccosalt) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 07:03 pm:


I think I got it - someone stole a fireman's crossbow (which he later deducted as a business expense) thereby preventing him from napping a dying nun's cow. Exactly! (Not really)

Did he steal an item that otherwise would have later been used in a theft? No, good question. Did he steal a tool of some sort?
An electronic device?
IP? An identity?
A plan, map, or documentThis is closest, but not exactly.?

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:07 pm:


Was the item stolen...
paper? This.
plastic? Perhaps a bit of this.
wood?
cloth?
glass?
art?
painted?
metal?
precious metal?
stone?
precious stones?
semi-precious stones?
animal?
vegetable?
mineral?
electronic?
a combination of materials?
Another material not listed here? Nope.

By Lana (Lana) on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 08:37 pm:


Did they steal something that was generally considered valuable to everyone? Not very. Or was it just that one person? Not particularly. Was it stolen for personal gain? Not really. If it wasn't stolen would more than one person get involved? Not necessarily. :) Does this come from a book?movie?T.V?comic? radio? your own imagination? This.
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

they stole the photo of him in his banana suit?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 6:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 06:17 pm:


they stole the photo of him in his banana suit? No, he has that safely locked up.
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 6:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One person stole something for no reason that nobody cared about that was supposed to be used later for a large theft, correct?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 06:39 pm:


One person stole something yes. for no reason none in particular. that nobody cared about pretty much. that was supposed to be used later for a large theft no., correct?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 6:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

whoops
I meant to type that the theft would affect the large theft.
anyway, more questions....
Did the item have any relevance to the large theft that didn't happen? Would it have caused allergies?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the item... a form of identification? Like a passport? ID card? Birth certificate?
Where I'm going with this: While identity theft is a big issue, it's fairly easy to stop if you know your stuff is missing (small theft), but if the passport/ID would have allowed the owner to go someplace... some country, some important building, then having it missing on the planned day would prevent him from comitting the larger crime?
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 5:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did they inted to steal it? because it had personal value? because they were being spitefull/wanted to hurt someone? because they wanted to keep someone from using it? because they needed it for something?

were car keys or drivers lisence stolen? something else needed for transportation?

was there information on the thing stolen? information few know? information relelvent to the person who was robbed? information that the theif wanted? relevent someone stealing information for id theft or the like?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 06:50 pm:


whoops
I meant to type that the theft would affect the large theft. If I'm thinking about it right, yes.
anyway, more questions....
Did the item have any relevance to the large theft that didn't happen? Yes. Would it have caused allergies? No.

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 07:43 pm:


Was the item... a form of identification? Like a passport? ID card? Birth certificate? None of these.
Where I'm going with this: While identity theft is a big issue, it's fairly easy to stop if you know your stuff is missing (small theft), but if the passport/ID would have allowed the owner to go someplace... some country, some important building, then having it missing on the planned day would prevent him from comitting the larger crime? No, but good idea.

By Drew Sollenberger (Sollen) on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 05:58 am:


did they inted to steal it? In the smaller crime? Yes. because it had personal value? Not particularly (I know I use that phrase a lot.) because they were being spitefull/wanted to hurt someone? No. because they wanted to keep someone from using it? No. because they needed it for something? This is closest, or they just wanted it.

were car keys or drivers lisence stolen? Nope. something else needed for transportation? No.

was there information on the thing stolen? Yes. information few know? Not really.information relelvent to the person who was robbed? Maybe a bit, might put you on the wrong track though. information that the theif wanted? The smaller thief? Yes, probably.relevent someone stealing information for id theft or the like? No.
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok... paper... a little plastic maybe... document...

The little bit of plastic... is it just on there for decoration? a seal? trim? A plastic folio to protect the document? a glassine (basically the same thing as the folio)?

The paper itself... a stock certificate? Something of monetary value? Something that represents money? A bond? Tax Returns? Was it just one sheet of paper? Several sheets? A booklet? A book? a flyer? a newspaper? clipping from a newspaper or magazine? A picture? A confession sheet (Stolen to prevent later blackmail)?

The BIG theft... would it have been done in standard burgler style? Or perhaps blackmail? embezzlement? Was money even the object of the large theft?

If not, was the object... jewelry? More Paper/documents? to hack into a bank computer system and transfer 1 cent from every single account to a new account (okay, that's money again, so sue me)? Antiques/something in a museum? High tech equipment? Arms/explosives? Other?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 3:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 07:04 pm:


Ok... paper... a little plastic maybe... document...

The little bit of plastic... is it just on there for decoration? a seal? trim? A plastic folio to protect the document? This. a glassine (basically the same thing as the folio)? I wouldn't call it this.

The paper itself... a stock certificate? No.something of monetary value? Very little.
Something that represents money? A bond? Tax Returns? Was it just one sheet of paper? Several sheets? A booklet? A book? a flyer? a newspaper? This, no to rest. clipping from a newspaper or magazine? A picture? A confession sheet (Stolen to prevent later blackmail)?

The BIG theft... would it have been done in standard burgler style? Yes. Or perhaps blackmail? No. embezzlement? No. Was money even the object of the large theft? Irr.

If not, was the object... jewelry? Could be.More Paper/documents? Could be. to hack into a bank computer system and transfer 1 cent from every single account to a new account (okay, that's money again, so sue me)? Seems like you have a plan...nope.:) Antiques/something in a museum? High tech equipment? Arms/explosives? Other? Most likely no to rest, but irr.
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hrm...
So, somebody stole somebody elses newspaper (a rather common occurance). But by stealing that newspaper, it somehow prevented a larger theft...

Was the original owner of the newspaper a thief?
Is the person who stole the newspaper a big thief? Or is he just into petty theft of newspapers?
Was there an article in the newspaper about something worthy of stealing?
Did the newspaper thief get caught? Were charges pressed and thus lead police to somebody they've been after for awhile?
Was the newspaper thief planning something big?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 07:31 pm:


Hrm... Hrm indeed.
So, somebody stole somebody elses newspaper (a rather common occurance). Yes. But by stealing that newspaper, it somehow prevented a larger theft... Precisely.

Was the original owner of the newspaper a thief? No.
Is the person who stole the newspaper a big thief? No. Or is he just into petty theft of newspapers? Irr, maybe he just wanted to check his stocks. :)
Was there an article in the newspaper about something worthy of stealing? No.
Did the newspaper thief get caught? Irr. Were charges pressed and thus lead police to somebody they've been after for awhile? No.
Was the newspaper thief planning something big? No.
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 6:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the victim of the newsnapping the one that would have committed the larger crime?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 10:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters) on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 06:32 pm:


was the victim of the newsnapping the one that would have committed the larger crime? No.
Tony (E20)
Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 6:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the large theft avoided because of the change of circumstances of the newspaper-thief?
Does the newspaper-thief have any more involvement with the story once the paper has been stolen?

Is the large theft avoided because of the change of circumstances of the original newspaper owner?
Does the lack of a newspaper heighten the awareness of the now newspaperless person, enabling them to prevent a crime which would have been successful if the newspapaer had still been there as a distraction?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 12:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tony (E20) on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 06:29 pm:


Is the large theft avoided because of the change of circumstances of the newspaper-thief? No.
Does the newspaper-thief have any more involvement with the story once the paper has been stolen? No.

Is the large theft avoided because of the change of circumstances of the original newspaper owner? Not really.
Does the lack of a newspaper heighten the awareness of the now newspaperless person, enabling them to prevent a crime which would have been successful if the newspapaer had still been there as a distraction? No.
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 7:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the newspaper hadn't been taken...
Would either of the people we know about have gotten involved in the big theft?
Does the Big thief live in the same building?
Does the Big thief plan his heists arbitrarily? I.e. based on who has a newspaper in front of their door?
Was the original newspaper owner the one who was going to be object of the big theft? The newspaper thief? Somebody we haven't figured out yet? A company?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 07:01 am:


If the newspaper hadn't been taken...
Would either of the people we know about have gotten involved in the big theft? No.
Does the Big thief live in the same building? Irr.
Does the Big thief plan his heists arbitrarily? No, but...I.e. based on who has a newspaper in front of their door? YES! So why do you rob from a place with a newspaper out front?

Was the original newspaper owner the one who was going to be object of the big theft? No. The newspaper thief? Was he the object of the the theft? No. Somebody we haven't figured out yet? no one else involved. A company?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the newspaper was stolen, and the would-be burgler assumed that the occupant of the house was not on vacation, yes?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 03:08 pm:


So the newspaper was stolen, and the would-be burgler assumed that the occupant of the house was not on vacation, yes? Yes.
**********SPOILER
Bob A. goes on vacation, his neighbor Bob B. steals his newspapers while he's gone. Bob C., the thief, is looking for empty houses to rob, but sees that Bob A.'s newspapers are disappearing and concludes that he is home.

Good job Lisa and Mosquito and everybody!

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