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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Vae (Vaetrus) on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 04:11 am:

Was she obliged to answer? yes

Was it professional advice? yes offer? no criticism? no

Was the answer offensive? yes the question? no

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The Undertaker (Undertaker)
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

anything to do with the customer's breath? any kind of smell?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By The Undertaker (Undertaker) on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 08:59 pm:

anything to do with the customer's breath? no any kind of smell? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 3:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a rhetorical question?

Did it (the question) have to do with appearance? Age? Size? Mental acuity? Mental health? STDs? Pregnancy?

Was it at all related to how one might contract a particular disease/condition?
Tony (E20)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 5:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the question ambiguous?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 03:18 pm:

Was it a rhetorical question? no

Did it (the question) have to do with appearance? no Age? no Size? no Mental acuity? noMental health? no STDs? no Pregnancy? no

Was it at all related to how one might contract a particular disease/condition? no

By Tony (E20) on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 05:11 pm:

Was the question ambiguous? no
Ally McCabe (Strongplacebo)
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 11:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she want to lose her job for some reason? Did the customer want her to lose her job prior to asking the question, and try to 'catch her out'?

Did they already know each other?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 9:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ally McCabe (Strongplacebo) on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 11:30 am:

Did she want to lose her job for some reason? no Did the customer want her to lose her job prior to asking the question, and try to 'catch her out'? no

Did they already know each other? no
Keith (Kaypee)
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 5:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The woman was supposed to answer that the weighing scales measured "accurately" but the truth was that they were inaccurate. By answering that they measured "inaccurately" she was being accurate but disobeying her bosses instructions to respond that they weighed "accurately" if asked. She could have lost her job because of this?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the customer expect a different answer? Was there some component to the answer which offended the customer due to a particular set of morals/cultural beliefs? Did the customer believe it was directed at him/her? Or was it more seomthing sounding like an offensive phrase (e. g. four-letter-word-type stuff)?

Was the (seemingly) offensive part of the answer a name? If so, the name of a product? A condition? Was it truly offensive? Would I be likely to find it offensive?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Keith (Kaypee) on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 05:03 pm:

The woman was supposed to answer that the weighing scales measured "accurately" but the truth was that they were inaccurate. By answering that they measured "inaccurately" she was being accurate but disobeying her bosses instructions to respond that they weighed "accurately" if asked. She could have lost her job because of this? no

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 05:09 pm:

Did the customer expect a different answer? yes Was there some component to the answer which offended the customer due to a particular set of morals/cultural beliefs?Morals? yesish; Cultural beliefs? no Did the customer believe it was directed at him/her? yes Or was it more seomthing sounding like an offensive phrase yes (e. g. four-letter-word-type stuff no)?

Was the (seemingly) offensive part of the answer a name? no If so, the name of a product? A condition? Was it truly offensive? yesish Would I be likely to find it offensive? I don't know you well enough to say

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Tony (E20)
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 11:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the information in her answer offensive of itself? Or was the problem with the actual words used? Could the same information have been conveyed in another way without causing offense?

Was the question related to Phil's professional role as pharmacist?

Had anyone else asked her the same question before?
If so, did she reply in the same way?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 5:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tony (E20) on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 11:24 am:

Was the information in her answer offensive of itself? no Or was the problem with the actual words used? yes Could the same information have been conveyed in another way without causing offense?\b} yes}

Was the question related to Phil's professional role as pharmacist? yes

Had anyone else asked her the same question before? no
If so, did she reply in the same way?
Vae (Vaetrus)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 4:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A morally very offensive answer, related professionally, not taken to be personal, that was foreseen to possibly get her fired, and totally avoidable?

Was it prescription related? Drug related?
To do with religion? To do with dosage?

Was the answer concerning anything personal of the client?
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 10:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the customer expected a different answer, did he ask the question in order to have his point of view confirmed?
Was Phil's answer helpful to the customer at all?
Did it contain the information the customer needed?
Was it a yes/no question? if not, was the question word "how"? "what"? "why"? "who"? "when"? "where"?
Did Phil understand already before answering that her answer would be offensive to the customer?
Did Phil know the customer? Was the customer there before?
Is the customer adult? male? relevant?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Vae (Vaetrus) on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 04:48 am:

A morally very offensive answer, related professionally, not taken to be personal, that was foreseen to possibly get her fired, and totally avoidable?yes

Was it prescription related?no Drug related? no
To do with religion? no To do with dosage? no

Was the answer concerning anything personal of the client? noish
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jens Weber (Sundowner) on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 10:02 am:

If the customer expected a different answer, did he ask the question in order to have his point of view confirmed? N/A
Was Phil's answer helpful to the customer at all? yes
Did it contain the information the customer needed? yes
Was it a yes/no question? no if not, was the question word "how"? yes "what"? no "why"? no"who"? no "when"? no "where"? no
Did Phil understand already before answering that her answer would be offensive to the customer? yes
Did Phil know the customer? no Was the customer there before? no
Is the customer adult? irrel male? ditto relevant? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 8:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Golly, was she describing how to take a particular medication? A suppository, for example?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 08:51 pm:

Golly, was she describing how to take a particular medication? no A suppository, for example? no but ORT (on right track--if you'll pardon that exprerssion in this contect:):))
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the offensive word a body part? an action?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 7:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jennifer (Tigger32382) on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 03:44 pm:

was the offensive word a body part? yes| an action? yes

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Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 7:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, I loved that expression in that context. :O

Did she use the "correct" term for the body part? Or a more, er, colloquial term?

Body part in question: derier...dreri...backside? Genitals? Breasts? Ears? Nose? Mouth? Eyes? Limbs? Torso? Head?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she explaining how to apply a condom?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she use the "correct" term for the body part? see next answer Or a more, er, colloquial term? yes

Body part in question: derier...dreri...backside? yes Genitals? Breasts? Ears? Nose? Mouth? Eyes? Limbs? Torso? Head? no to all but backside

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 08:24 pm:

Was she explaining how to apply a condom? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She used the word for donkey?

Something like an enema? A test kit/sample kit?

Something like "You stick it up your a** and squeeze."?
Vae (Vaetrus)
Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 1:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Backside as in spine? Actual back? Or bottom (butt)?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, October 31, 2005 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 10:12 pm:

She used the word for donkey? yes

Something like an enema? no A test kit/sample kit? no

Something like "You stick it up your a** yes and squeeze."? no

This is close enough for me to declare a
*******SPOILER ********
When someone called the phaermacy & asked Philomena how to use a rectal thermomerter, well, let's just say she gave an accurate but very colloquial answer

By Vae (Vaetrus) on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 01:57 am:

Backside as in spine? no Actual back? no Or bottom (butt)? yes

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