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David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 4:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

dog playing piano
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 4:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are you aware of any non-humans that can play the piano? Well, there are some animals that can be taught to do almost anything. Did you hear about the monkey that competed against stockbrokers in trading and out-performed the brokers? If they can do this, can't they be taught to make music, or at the very least practice law?

Is the location of Tony's workplace relevant?
Does Tony decide to do something else instead of the lesson when he realizes Sarah will be late?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

woubit, I've seen cats put their paws on the piano too - doesn't mean they'd benefit in the least from a piano lesson

Is the location of Tony's workplace relevant? some aspects of it are
Does Tony decide to do something else instead of the lesson when he realizes Sarah will be late? not necessarily
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok - does Tony conduct music lessons in a studio? In a multi-purpose area? Is Tony's only job a music instructor?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok - does Tony conduct music lessons in a studio? possibly In a multi-purpose area? possibly Is Tony's only job a music instructor? possibly, but not necessarily
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 4:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Sarah regularly come to Tony for lessons? Only on this one occassion? Randomly?
Are there other people in the same building in which Tony provides the music lessons? Is this relevant?
Is Tony's decision to tell Sarah not to stay for the lesson prompted by something Sarah says to Tony upon her arrival? Something that Tony sees Sarah carrying/holding in her hand(s) when she arrives? Something Sarah is wearing? The way she smells? Something someone tells Tony while he's waiting for Sarah? Something Tony sees going on near the building? Something Tony hears on the radio? Something Tony sees on TV? A phone call that Tony receives?
When does Tony decide to dismiss Sarah from the lesson: prior to the scheduled lesson time? in the five minutes between the start time and the time Sarah arrives? when he lays eyes on Sarah? after Sarah speaks to him? did he perhaps decide earlier in the day that he didn't want to do the lesson, but didn't have any way to get in touch with Sarah and had to wait until she got there?

Is this happening in this current time? In this century? Could it happen at any time from the invention of musical instruments until now?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 4:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Sarah regularly come to Tony for lessons? yes Only on this one occassion? no Randomly? no
Are there other people in the same building in which Tony provides the music lessons? probably Is this relevant? none of the specific people are relevant, if that's what you mean

Is Tony's decision to tell Sarah not to stay for the lesson prompted by something Sarah says to Tony upon her arrival? no Something that Tony sees Sarah carrying/holding in her hand(s) when she arrives? no Something Sarah is wearing? no The way she smells? no Something someone tells Tony while he's waiting for Sarah? no Something Tony sees going on near the building? no Something Tony hears on the radio? no Something Tony sees on TV? no A phone call that Tony receives? no

When does Tony decide to dismiss Sarah from the lesson: prior to the scheduled lesson time? in the five minutes between the start time and the time Sarah arrives? either this when he lays eyes on Sarah? or this after Sarah speaks to him? did he perhaps decide earlier in the day that he didn't want to do the lesson, but didn't have any way to get in touch with Sarah and had to wait until she got there? no

Is this happening in this current time? In this century? Could it happen at any time from the invention of musical instruments until now? It takes place in modern times. It could not have taken place in the days of the earliest pianos.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Tony mostly frustrated with Sarah for not getting to the lesson on time? moreso worried when she doesn't arrive on time? somewhat irritated that she's late, but then comforted by the fact that he doesn't have to give a lesson and can therefore do something else instead?

So can we say, then, that up until the start time for Sarah's lesson, Tony intended on giving the lesson exactly as planned? When the start time arrived and Sarah wasn't there, something occured to Tony which made him decide that he would dismiss Sarah? Tony decided that if Sarah arrived under a certain condition she would be dismissed? OR Even if Sarah was late, he would still give the lesson as long as ______ (certain condition was met)?
Did Sarah apologize for being late? Did Tony expect her to?
Are Sarah and Tony related to each other?
Rachel (Myth)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there something visually altered about Sarah when she arrived for her lesson?
Rachel (Myth)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there something visually altered about Sarah when she arrived for her lesson?
Nessa (Lyra)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Tony send Sarah away because...
his hearing is compromised?
he's physically unable to give the lesson?
he realized the piano needed tuning?
some other technical problem?
construction workers arrived at the building and he realized there would be too much noise?
some other practical problem?
he decides Sarah does not need or will not benefit from the lesson?
he realizes she can't pay for the lesson?

Is something preventing him from giving the lesson? Someone?
Did he overhear his boss planning to fire him?
Did he cancel the lesson so he could do something else?
Is he angry at Sarah for anything? At himself? At someone else? At the life in general?

Does Sarah actually want to learn piano, or does she have other reasons for taking the lessons?
Is it relevant why Sarah was late?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 9:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 08:23 pm:

Is Tony mostly frustrated with Sarah for not getting to the lesson on time? moreso worried when she doesn't arrive on time? somewhat irritated that she's late, but then comforted by the fact that he doesn't have to give a lesson and can therefore do something else instead? none of these is accurate

So can we say, then, that up until the start time for Sarah's lesson, Tony intended on giving the lesson exactly as planned? yes When the start time arrived and Sarah wasn't there, something occured to Tony which made him decide that he would dismiss Sarah? yes, if "when" means "at the same time as" and not "because" Tony decided that if Sarah arrived under a certain condition she would be dismissed? noish OR Even if Sarah was late, he would still give the lesson as long as ______ (certain condition was met)? this is not quite accurate either
Did Sarah apologize for being late? irrelevant Did Tony expect her to? irrelevant
Are Sarah and Tony related to each other? irrelevant

By Rachel (Myth) on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 08:25 pm:

Was there something visually altered about Sarah when she arrived for her lesson? no

By Nessa (Lyra) on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 08:45 pm:

Did Tony send Sarah away because...
his hearing is compromised?
he's physically unable to give the lesson?
he realized the piano needed tuning?
some other technical problem?
construction workers arrived at the building and he realized there would be too much noise?
some other practical problem?
he decides Sarah does not need or will not benefit from the lesson? this is closest - no to the rest
he realizes she can't pay for the lesson?

Is something preventing him from giving the lesson? no Someone? no
Did he overhear his boss planning to fire him? no
Did he cancel the lesson so he could do something else? no
Is he angry at Sarah for anything? yes At himself? At someone else? At the life in general? no to the rest

Does Sarah actually want to learn piano, or does she have other reasons for taking the lessons? any ulterior motive of Sarah's is irrelevant
Is it relevant why Sarah was late? yes indeed
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there some other event that was supposed to happen at the time of Sarah's lesson, and she missed it because she wasn't there?
Was the lesson for that day supposed to be just like all previous ones? Or was there a special activity/event planned?
Was Sarah late because of a delay that took place between the time she left the origin and arrived at Tony's place? Did she leave her origin later than she needed to in order to arrive at Tony's on time for the lesson? Did someone interfere with Sarah departing in sufficient time? Did Sarah misjudge how long it would take to get to Tony's place? Did Tony unknowingly delay her?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there some other event that was supposed to happen at the time of Sarah's lesson, and she missed it because she wasn't there? no
Was the lesson for that day supposed to be just like all previous ones? yes Or was there a special activity/event planned? no
Was Sarah late because of a delay that took place between the time she left the origin and arrived at Tony's place? yes Did she leave her origin later than she needed to in order to arrive at Tony's on time for the lesson? no Did someone interfere with Sarah departing in sufficient time? no Did Sarah misjudge how long it would take to get to Tony's place? yope Did Tony unknowingly delay her? no
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there anything special about this particular day that would affect either Tony or Sarah? For instance, the lesson falls on a Jewish holiday, and Sarah is late because she was with her family celebrating, but since Tony isn't Jewish it's just another day for him? Or vice versa?
Are weather conditions relevant? Traffic?
Is Tony's place in a city? Suburb? Rural area? In a highrise/skyscraper? Someone else's house? A school? A hospital? Other?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"If you can't keep time, you'll never be able to play the piano"?
Rachel (Myth)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 3:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was this a delay Sarah should have anticipated? Would that even have been possible?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 7:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 09:26 pm:

Is there anything special about this particular day that would affect either Tony or Sarah? no For instance, the lesson falls on a Jewish holiday, and Sarah is late because she was with her family celebrating, but since Tony isn't Jewish it's just another day for him? Or vice versa? nothing like this
Are weather conditions relevant? Traffic? neither
Is Tony's place in a city? possibly Suburb? possibly Rural area? possibly In a highrise/skyscraper? unlikely Someone else's house? unlikely A school? possibly (a university would work particularly well) A hospital? I guess this could work, but I'm not aware of people who give piano lessons in hospitals Other? possibly

By David Burn (Woubit) on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 11:04 pm:

"If you can't keep time, you'll never be able to play the piano"? good thinking, but no

By Rachel (Myth) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 03:06 am:

Was this a delay Sarah should have anticipated? Would that even have been possible? she might have been able to anticipate it, but as it turned out she did not
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 2:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Sarah a student at the school/university where Tony gives lessons? Was Tony going to give her a test/exam that day?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Sarah a student at the school/university where Tony gives lessons? probably yes Was Tony going to give her a test/exam that day? no
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Sarah do something irresponsible that causes her to be late for the lesson? Or is it just an unfortunate circumstance?
When she arrives at Tony's place, does he have an idea as to why she is late? Does he not care why she's late? While he's waiting for her, is he formulating a hypothesis as to why she may be late? If so, does seeing her confirm his theory?
Is the relationship between Tony and Sarah only student/teacher?
If this had been any other student, would Tony have acted the same toward that person?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 3:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Sarah do something irresponsible that causes her to be late for the lesson? yes Or is it just an unfortunate circumstance? no
When she arrives at Tony's place, does he have an idea as to why she is late? yes Does he not care why she's late? he does care While he's waiting for her, is he formulating a hypothesis as to why she may be late? yes If so, does seeing her confirm his theory? yope
Is the relationship between Tony and Sarah only student/teacher? if it is not, any other aspect is irrelevant
If this had been any other student, would Tony have acted the same toward that person? not necessarily, but this may mislead