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Alan (Alan)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I suppose this isn't really a lateral thinking puzzle, because All the information you need is provided in the four sentences below. I'm interested whether anyone here, and how many, can solve it without being given any more clues.

A woman, while at the funeral of her grandfather, met this guy whom she did not know. She thought the guy was amazing, her dream man! She fell in love with him instantly, but never asked for his phone number and could not find him after the funeral. A few days later she killed her sister.

Question: What is her motive in killing her sister?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Alan - welcome if you're new!

I'm pretty sure we've had this puzzle before (I recognise it at least :)) so I won't say anything...
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm....

Was the guy her sister's husband?
Steve Wort (Wizardofnz)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 1:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have a massive sense of Deja Vu.

What is more interesting is that you state 'I suppose this isn't really a lateral thinking puzzle, because All the information you need is provided in the four sentences below'. This is no more true for this puzzle than for any of the great classics. What I believe is the case here is that the definition of 'lateral thinking puzzle' has been bastardised to reflect the en vogue style of posting 4 words of text and having people play something akin to '20 questions' until they painfully recreate, word-by-word, the news bulletin that the four words represent (often cryptically) an (often small and/or insignificant) part of.

It's a bit sad, really.
Dietmar Cremers (Feenwelt)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unfortunately, I know it, too. Over here, this is supposed to be a test for being a psycho or not. If you know the answer immediately, you are supposed to have murder genes. :)
Moderator Feenwelt (Dietmar)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And that's why I changed the title.
But it's a good puzzle. If you don't already know it: Ask questions - it's worth it.
Alan (Alan)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, I'll tell you my reason for posting it.
I was told it was a "psychopath test", and if you got it right you thought like a killer psychopath, and if you got it wrong you were 'normal'.
In retrospect, I should have explained that in the original post, because it's a good clue to the mentality of the woman.
Well, I got it right, but disputed that I was somehow abnormal, and said it was because I like lateral thinking puzzles, and I might have come across a similar one before.
So I posted it here hoping other puzzle fans would get it and prove my point.

The explaination I was given:

[Quote]
She was hoping that the guy would appear at the funeral again. If you answered this correctly, you think like a psychopath. This was a test by a
famous American psychologist used to test if someone has the same mentality as a killer. Many arrested serial killers took part in the test and answered the question correctly. If you didn't answer the question correctly, good for you - you're normal. If you got the answer correct, please let me know so I can take you off of my email list, unless that will tick you off, then
I'll just be extra nice to you from now on.
[unquote]

So, did anyone get it? How about you Hannah? Btw, thanks for the wecome. and sorry Steve, I didn't mean to offend anyone.
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 8:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Alan

Yes - that was the answer I was thinking of. When it was run here before we were given much less information - I think we were just told that a woman had attended a family funeral, then a week later killed her sister. People on the forum are well honed to lateral puzzles you mustn't give them too much information - it'll make them lazy:)

The chances are that if you've come across something that calls itself a lateral puzzle out there in the real world, it has been done on here already - especially if it has a dwarf or an albatross in it!
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 8:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alan,

Thank you for stimulating some interesting discussion here. I would just like to make a couple of points.

Actually the person who informed you about this puzzle is correct. Any serial killer who gets it wrong is a liar - in keeping with their psychopathy - they know the answer.

However the real point of all this, albeit one that there is reluctance to acknowledge, is that all Lateral Puzzlers are Psychopaths and potential Serial Killers!
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm just a cereal killer if you don't mind. Welcome Alan!
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 3:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh dear, the answer jumped to mind immediately - what does that say about me?
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it already occur to you that in all variations of this story it is always a woman who kills someone, never a man ... Does this tell something about the female mind?
And did it occur to you that the protagonist in the puzzle does not act very logically, actually? ..oops, now you know that I'm a serial killer, too...
Alan (Alan)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

YIPES! That proves it. All lateral puzzlers have cereal for breakfast! We're all stark staring bonkers.

MUHAHAHA!
Ian (Image)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I got it wrong.... does that mean I'm blissfully oblivious and ignorant, or just not a serial killer?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I got it wrong.... does that mean I'm blissfully oblivious and ignorant, or just not a serial killer?

Ian,

It means one of the following:

1. You are not a psychopath and therefore have less potential to become either a serial killer or (more importantly) a successful lateral puzzler.

2. You are both a liar and a psychopath and therefore have great potential to become both a serial killer (and more importantly) a successful lateral puzzler.
Ian (Image)
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 1:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

:(
Lawrence Jones (A1415925)
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 10:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think I know the answer, but I'm not sure.
Placido Eustorgio (Enigami)
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

:) Can we have another $poiler? Ian?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think Alan already posted the answer, at Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 06:23 am....
Alan (Alan)
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, sorry about that. I originally posted to test the 'think like a psychopath' theory. Didn't realise that it could be a proper LT puzzle for the members here. I could kick myself.

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