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Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A train has been running flawlessly for most of the journey from one terminal to another. However, at the next-to-last station, another car is added at the end of the train, and the train is now unable to move at all, much less pull out of the station and complete the journey. The added car is in perfect working order. It is not especially heavy, and the locomotive is more than powerful enough to pull the added weight. No brakes of any kind are activated on the added car. (And yes, the car IS the correct gauge, in case you wondered)

So, what's the problem?
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the train automatic? Or is there a driver in it? Is it physically impossible for the train to move? Or does it not move because it must not move? Anybody relevant inside the last car? An escaped convict?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant that we are at the next to last station? Or could it be any station?

Is the pilot / driver / operator at the same end that the new car has been connected?

Has there been a power cut?

Is there anything special about the new car compared to the others?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack) on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 01:38 pm:


Is the train automatic? Yesish...
Or is there a driver in it? No
Is it physically impossible for the train to move? In light of your next question, yes Or does it not move because it must not move? No
Anybody relevant inside the last car? No
An escaped convict? No

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 01:45 pm:


Is it relevant that we are at the next to last station? Or could it be any station? Could be any station

Is the pilot / driver / operator at the same end that the new car has been connected? See above - no driver

Has there been a power cut? Yes - but why?

Is there anything special about the new car compared to the others? Yes
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 4:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a model train? A passenger train? A freight train? Monorail? Maglev train?
John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"a power cut" - as in, the whole area is now without power? Or just the train?
are any safety devices relevant?
Is the train underground?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a model train? Yes A passenger train? Yes A freight train? No
Monorail?No Maglev train? No

By John Faben (Bentarm) on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 07:43 pm:


"a power cut" - as in, the whole area is now without power? This Or just the train?
are any safety devices relevant? No
Is the train underground? No
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 12:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the extra carriage mean that the train was too long to work (for any reason)?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 7:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the extra carriage mean that the train was too long to work (for any reason)? No
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the extra carriage pull current from the tracks?
If so, Does it have a considerable less resitance than the engine and consequently is shorting the circuit? leaving very little current to go through the train, or did it short the circuit when it was first placed on, tripping a circuit breaker (or fuse)?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 1:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the extra carriage pull current from the tracks?
If so, Does it have a considerable less resitance than the engine and consequently is shorting the circuit? leaving very little current to go through the train, or did it short the circuit when it was first placed on, tripping a circuit breaker (or fuse)? All yes

*************** SPOILER ****************

The toy train is of a brand - for example Fleischmann - that supplies electricity to the locomotive by using one of the tracks as "live" and the other as "ground". Because of this, the wheels of the cars must be insulated from each other so that electricity cannot pass from one wheel through the axle into the second wheel and down into the other track, as this would short-circuit the whole sector. Other brands, however, notably Märklin, uses another system with a third rail between the two main rails, whose sole purpose is to be the "live" terminal, while the two main tracks act as "ground". Obviously, in such a system, there is no reason to insulate car wheels on the same axle from each other. In our case, a Mãrklin car was added to the end of a Fleischmann train, and shorted the whole system.


I expected it to go quickly, but not quite this quickly. Well done!
Socrates
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 2:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There were no GREEN signal for the train to move.
Toiletman (Toiletman)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

the train is made of tissue paper!
burp and it dissolves into methane and floats to the station in reverse with square wheels scratching the clouds while passengers prepare for a surreal plane flight experience in caveman computer.

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