| Author | Message | ||
| rebecca kreisler (Beccaann)
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These are not them! What are they? | ||
| Sam Greene (Pandora)
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Lord Lucan and Shergar? | ||
| rebecca kreisler (Beccaann)
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Lord Lucan and Shergar? certainly not | ||
| Sam Greene (Pandora)
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How disapointing  Okay are 'these' human? non-human animals? animate objetcs? inanimate objects? tangible? Them = human? non-human animals? animate objetcs? inanimate objects? tangible? Were 'these' supposed to be 'them'? | ||
| rebecca kreisler (Beccaann)
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Okay are 'these' human? yes non-human animals? animate objetcs? inanimate objects? tangible? no to the rest Them = human? yes non-human animals? animate objetcs? inanimate objects? tangible? no to the rest Were 'these' supposed to be 'them'? yes | ||
| Sam Greene (Pandora)
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presumably 'these' and 'them' are groups of people? specific groups i.e. The Masons? | ||
| rebecca kreisler (Beccaann)
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presumably 'these' and 'them' are groups of people? yes specific groups i.e. The Masons? yes, but NO to the example | ||
| Sam Greene (Pandora)
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Are they two different groups are are they linked in some way? Are the religious groups? Famous people? Groups of people who work in the same profession? Groups you would find all over the world? in a particular country? Relevent how many people belong to each of these groups? | ||
| rebecca kreisler (Beccaann)
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Are they two different groups are are they linked in some way? yes Are the religious groups? no Famous people? no Groups of people who work in the same profession? noish Groups you would find all over the world? noin a particular country? no Relevent how many people belong to each of these groups? yope | ||
| Sam Greene (Pandora)
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Is it relevant how many people were in the 'these' group? 'them' group? | ||
| rebecca kreisler (Beccaann)
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Is it relevant how many people were in the 'these' group? 'them' group? only relative to each other | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
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Has this died? Do I need to post a $p01ler and get it off the board? | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Are there more of these than of them? Are there more of them than of these? Are there the same number of each? Relevant? Are there any members common to both groups? Are "these" a well known group? Are "them" a well known group? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
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Are there more of these than of them? no Are there more of them than of these? no Are there the same number of each? yes Relevant? yes Are there any members common to both groups? no Are "these" a well known group? no Are "them" a well known group? yope | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Disney relevent? Dineyland? Disney World? Radio Disney? Walt Disney? Disney TV Station? Any specific aspect of Disney? Spinoff/parody of Disney? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
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Disney relevent? Dineyland? Disney World? Radio Disney? Walt Disney? Disney TV Station? Any specific aspect of Disney? Spinoff/parody of Disney? no to all, although this last one is OTRT | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Spinoff? Parody? You thought you were getting the real thing, but you got a parody instead? Like a Big Dogs teeshirt instead of a Matrix one for example? | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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California relevent? Title relevent at all? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
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Spinoff? no Parody? yes You thought you were getting the real thing, but you got a parody instead? noish Like a Big Dogs teeshirt instead of a Matrix one for example? no California relevent? no Title relevent at all? yes, but I wouldn't focus on it--more likely to mislead than help | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane Post Number: 285 Registered: 5-2006 |
Were you buying something? Going to see something? With someone else? | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane Post Number: 286 Registered: 5-2006 |
Bands/ music groups? Number of people in each group{insert LTPF list of numbers here}? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 123 Registered: 6-2006 |
Were you buying something? no Going to see something? no With someone else? no There is an FA here, I believe Bands/ music groups? no Number of people in each group{insert LTPF list of numbers here}? 4 in each | ||
| SmarterBrother (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 82 Registered: 10-2003 |
Do all the members of either group belong to the same profession? Are they friends? Relatives? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 126 Registered: 6-2006 |
Do all the members of either group belong to the same profession? yope? Are they friends? yope Relatives? no | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 63 Registered: 7-2006 |
Were These actively parodying Them? Were These paying tribute to Them? Entertainment industry relevant? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 129 Registered: 6-2006 |
Were These actively parodying Them? yes-ISH Were These paying tribute to Them? noish Entertainment industry relevant? yes | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 77 Registered: 7-2006 |
That yes-ISH... Were They intentionally parodying Them? In a good-natured way? Or a mocking way? Were They attempting to emulate Them? If so, would it be deemed a good likeness? Or a bad one? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 132 Registered: 6-2006 |
That yes-ISH... Were They intentionally parodying Them? yes, with the same ish In a good-natured way? not exactly this Or a mocking way? but NOT this Were They attempting to emulate Them? yes If so, would it be deemed a good likeness? no Or a bad one? yes | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 82 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are They (and by implication, Them) a musical group? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 133 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are They (and by implication, Them) a musical group? no | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 85 Registered: 7-2006 |
(That's my Bjorn Again theory out of the window then!) An entertainment group of some kind - Dance? Theatre? Magic? Circus? Is the puzzle statement being made by someone viewing These? Is the statement one of Shock? Anger? Humour? Disgust? Upset? Does the statement mean "I thought I was about to see Them, and These are someone else"? Or "These are not as good as Them"? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 135 Registered: 6-2006 |
(That's my Bjorn Again theory out of the window then!) An entertainment group of some kind - no or FA Dance? Theatre? this is closest Magic? Circus? but none of these Is the puzzle statement being made by someone viewing These? yes, for svv of viewing Is the statement one of Shock? yes Anger? yes Humour? no Disgust? yes Upset? yes Does the statement mean "I thought I was about to see Them, and These are someone else"? Or "These are not as good as Them"? yes to both | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 138 Registered: 7-2006 |
Were the persons being viewed a musical group? a purely singing group? an group of actors? other entertainment? were the imitating a musical group? a purely singing group? a group of actors? other entertainment? (Think this is covered, but just to clarify) -Did the person saying the statement actually expect to be seeing the genuine article? And was shocked,angry,disgusted & upset at the low-quality act she saw? Were the substitutes standing in for the originals? At the request of the originals? Was this an advertised entertainment? Billed like "(the Smith brothers in a tribute to) THE BEACH BOYS?" kind of thing? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 146 Registered: 6-2006 |
Were the persons being viewed a musical group?no a purely singing group?no an group of actors?yesish other entertainment?no were the imitating a musical group?no a purely singing group?no a group of actors?yesish other entertainment?no (Think this is covered, but just to clarify) -Did the person saying the statement actually expect to be seeing the genuine article?yes And was shocked,angry,disgusted & upset at the low-quality act she saw?noish to FA Were the substitutes standing in for the originals?yes At the request of the originals?yesish Was this an advertised entertainment? FA Billed like "(the Smith brothers in a tribute to) THE BEACH BOYS?" kind of thing?no | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 157 Registered: 7-2006 |
The person saying the statement was looking at the 'fake' actors, correct? Were the fake actors performing at the time? Were they acting in something which the 'real' actors have performed in previously? Were the fake actors pretending to be the real actors? Or just acting the same parts as the real actors? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 150 Registered: 6-2006 |
The person saying the statement was looking at the 'fake' actors, correct? yes Were the fake actors performing at the time? yes Were they acting in something which the 'real' actors have performed in previously? no Were the fake actors pretending to be the real actors? yes Or just acting the same parts as the real actors? this too | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 175 Registered: 6-2006 |
Were they acting in something which the 'real' actors have performed in previously? no ......make this, noish...yesish for svv of previously | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 191 Registered: 7-2006 |
I'll rephrase as best I can Did the real actors at some time in the past, perform a piece which the fake actors are now performing? Do the real actors at the time of the puzzle, perform a piece which the fake actors are performing? Were the fake actors actually stand-ins for the real actors on the night in question? Were the original four:- One man and three women? Two men, two women? Three men, one woman? Four men? Some combination of men/women/animals? Same questions for the fake four | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 180 Registered: 6-2006 |
Did the real actors at some time in the past, perform a piece which the fake actors are now performing? no Do the real actors at the time of the puzzle, perform a piece which the fake actors are performing? yesish Were the fake actors actually stand-ins for the real actors on the night in question? yesish Were the original four:- One man and three women? Two men, two women? this, with a tiny ish Three men, one woman? Four men? Some combination of men/women/animals? you could also say this Same questions for the fake foursame answers there is a smallish FA here, I'm afraid, and I think some of my answers may mislead slightly as long as it's still around | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 197 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are any animals part of the fake act? of the real act? Are any children part of the fake act? of the real act? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 198 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are any puppets part of the fake act? Part of the real act? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 184 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are any animals part of the fake act? yope of the real act? yope Are any children part of the fake act? of the real act? no to both Are any puppets part of the fake act? Part of the real act? no to both | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 207 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are the four actors in the fake act all humans? Are any of them playing the part of animals? Is the ganuine performance: - a comedy? straight acting? Opera? Ballet? | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 384 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did the fake actors wear masks? Did the real actors wear masks? Animal masks? Cartoon character masks? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 185 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are the four actors in the fake act all humans?yope Are any of them playing the part of animals?noish to yope Is the ganuine performance: - a comedy? yes straight acting?not sure what you mean by this Opera? no Ballet? no Did the fake actors wear masks? yope Did the real actors wear masks? yope Animal masks?yope Cartoon character masks? no these are really hard to answer, mainly because of an FA...I'll tell you that the FA regards not only the nature of the actors, but that of the so-called "viewer" making the puzzle statement. | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 386 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the viewer in fact a listener? Is this play audio only? a radio play? Did the speakers of the characters change? Is dubbing relevant? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 186 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is the viewer in fact a listener? no Is this play audio only? no and FA a radio play? no and FA Did the speakers of the characters change?yope Is dubbing relevant?no | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 387 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are the fake actors witnessed in person? on screen? in a book/magazine? in a comic book? Is the term "play" the FA? Appearance of the fake actors relevant? Voice of the fake actors relevant? Movements of the fake actors relevant? The fake actors: human? alive? made of flesh & blood? The real actors: human? alive? made of flesh & blood? The viewer: human? alive? made of flesh & blood? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 210 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are any of the characters (characters being played rather than the actors): - Animals? Cartoon characters? non-human characters? Is the viewer:- Human? Animal? Cartoon? Other? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 188 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are the fake actors witnessed in person? yeson screen? noish in a book/magazine? noin a comic book? no Is the term "play" the FA? yes Appearance of the fake actors relevant?yes Voice of the fake actors relevant? no Movements of the fake actors relevant? yesish The fake actors: human? yes, but also yesish alive? yes made of flesh & blood? yes The real actors: human? yes, but also yesish alive? yes made of flesh & blood? yes The viewer: human? yes alive? yesmade of flesh & blood?yes Are any of the characters (characters being played rather than the actors): - Animals? yope Cartoon characters? no non-human characters? yope Is the viewer:- Human? yes Animal? no Cartoon? no Other?no some of these are REALLY hard to answer... | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 388 Registered: 3-2006 |
Humans with animal-like features relevant? e.g. the elephant-man? Davy Jones? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 189 Registered: 6-2006 |
Humans with animal-like features relevant? e.g. the elephant-man? Davy Jones? neither of these, but something like that | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 390 Registered: 3-2006 |
Fictional humanoids? Like werewolves? Dr.Moreau creatures? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 190 Registered: 6-2006 |
Fictional humanoids? yope Like werewolves? Dr.Moreau creatures? neither of these---indentifying the exact "humanoid" will require pinpointing what, specifically, the actors are acting in | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 211 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are the fake actors in costume? If so, does the costume consist of standard clothing (i.e. shoes / trousers or skirt / top, though obviously in character)? Or more of a one-piece costume? erm... Wizard of Oz relevant? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 192 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are the fake actors in costume? yes If so, does the costume consist of standard clothing (i.e. shoes / trousers or skirt / top, though obviously in character)? Or more of a one-piece costume? yes and no erm... Wizard of Oz relevant?no | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 225 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are the fake actors: - In period costume? In futuristic costume? In fantasy costumes, e.g. witches, wizards? in animal costumes? In robot costumes? In Banana Splits costumes? In costumes in which it is impossible to see their faces? Are the costumes meant to represent some characters played by the original actors? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 195 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are the fake actors: - In period costume? no In futuristic costume? yesish In fantasy costumes, e.g. witches, wizards?no in animal costumes? yope In robot costumes? no In Banana Splits costumes?no In costumes in which it is impossible to see their faces? no Are the costumes meant to represent some characters played by the original actors?yesish | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 232 Registered: 7-2006 |
Do the Yesish and Yope refer to the fact that some members of the four are in some type of costume, and others aren't (? or are in another type of costume?) If so, is it true that 1/2/3/4 of the fake actors are in futuristic dress? Is it true that 1/2/3/4 of the fake actors are in animal costume Is this a children's entertainment? An entertainment primarily for adults? Red Dwarf relevant? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 196 Registered: 6-2006 |
I feel like we're going to be hung up forever on all these yesishes and yopes...so I'll say this: "Real actors" characters are 1 male human, 1 female human, 1 male humanish, and one female humanish, and the "fake actors" are imitating the "real actors" characters, however well or poorly they may be pulling it off. | ||
| Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
New member Username: Lzeiters Post Number: 827 Registered: 6-2005 |
does this have anything to do with the "cartoon characters" that can be seen roaming about the park? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 197 Registered: 6-2006 |
does this have anything to do with the "cartoon characters" that can be seen roaming about the park?no | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 258 Registered: 7-2006 |
Ok, so there is a group of four performing some act, correct? And presumably from the statement made, not too well? Would they be said to be generally poor performers in themselves? Or just poor imitations of the real thing? Were there a specific four 'original' performers, who the fakes are emulating? Or four well-known characters being emulated? Age of the speaker relevant? (if so, I'm sure I've got a list of numbers here somewhere...  ) | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 198 Registered: 6-2006 |
Ok, so there is a group of four performing some act, correct?yesish And presumably from the statement made, not too well?yesish Would they be said to be generally poor performers in themselves? Or just poor imitations of the real thing? this Were there a specific four 'original' performers, who the fakes are emulating?yes Or four well-known characters being emulated?and yes, at least to the speaker Age of the speaker relevant? no(if so, I'm sure I've got a list of numbers here somewhere... ) | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 207 Registered: 6-2006 |
Hint in white: the specific job of the so-called "fake actors" and the job of the speaker are very relevant, as is the specific "act" they are performing | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 94 Registered: 10-2003 |
Are the four characters being portrayed from a film? TV series? Are the four fake actors (possibly misguided) fans of the original four actors who just happen to enjoy performing as them? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 279 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the speaker someone who assesses performing acts as part of thier job? Or simply a fan of the originals ? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 211 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are the four characters being portrayed from a film? yes TV series? no Are the four fake actors (possibly misguided) fans of the original four actors who just happen to enjoy performing as them? no Is the speaker someone who assesses performing acts as part of thier job? no Or simply a fan of the originals ? NO | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 282 Registered: 7-2006 |
So, not a fan of the originals, and even less happy with the low-quality copies? Are the fake actors, at the time of the statement, acting on stage? acting on screen? acting on TV? acting in the street? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 23 Registered: 8-2006 |
Title relevant? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 105 Registered: 10-2003 |
Are any of the four characters (the male & female human and the male & female humanishs) related to each other? Are they the main characters in the film? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 214 Registered: 6-2006 |
So, not a fan of the originals, and even less happy with the low-quality copies? yesish Are the fake actors, at the time of the statement, acting on stage? no acting on screen? yes acting on TV? no acting in the street?no | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 287 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the person saying the statement watching a film of the fake actors? Is he connected with the film industry? Are the fake, human-ish characters: - part human, part animal? fantasy creatures, such as werewolves? Vampires? Ghosts? Androids? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 217 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is the person saying the statement watching a film of the fake actors? no Is he connected with the film industry? yesish Are the fake, human-ish characters: - part human, part animal? yes for one, no for the other fantasy creatures, such as werewolves? Vampires? Ghosts? Androids?yes for the other! | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hi everyone! Is it correct that of the the original actors: 1. One man was playing a male human? 2. one woman was playing a female human? 3. one was playing an animal? Is the sort of animal relevant? Is this one a man? 4. one was playing a fantasy figure? Is the sort of fantasy figure relevant? Is the relationship between these four relevant? e.g. are the two humans a couple? Was it a nonrecurring performance? Done by professionals? Would you answer the same questions for the fake actors (any differences)? Is it right that the observer first saw the original 'performance' on the screen (in the cinema?) and later a live performance of the fake actors? Was it his task to judge this second performance? Are the original actors or the original performance well known? Is the lack of quality of the second performance mainly due to: the actors? the costumes? the scene? the fact that this second performance is not on film? the taste of the observer? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 228 Registered: 6-2006 |
Hi everyone! Is it correct that of the the original actors: 1. One man was playing a male human?yes 2. one woman was playing a female human?yes 3. one was playing an animal? yope Is the sort of animal relevant? yesish Is this one a man?yes 4. one was playing a fantasy figure? noish Is the sort of fantasy figure relevant?{we've astablished there is an android character} Is the relationship between these four relevant?yope e.g. are the two humans a couple?no Was it a nonrecurring performance? yes Done by professionals?yes Would you answer the same questions for the fake actors (any differences)?yes, and yes there is a key difference--which is what makes them "fake" Is it right that the observer first saw the original 'performance' on the screen (in the cinema?) and later a live performance of the fake actors?NO Was it his task to judge this second performance?no Are the original actors or the original performance well known?yes Is the lack of quality of the second performance mainly due to: the actors?a bit of this the costumes?this, mainly the scene? the fact that this second performance is not on film?NO the taste of the observer?no | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 8 Registered: 8-2006 |
The fake actors do the performance professionally? Was the observer part of the original actors? or has he at least a connection to them? Is it probable that I have heard of the original performance before? Took it place in the USA? If so, is it well known abroad? (I can't think of any performance including a half animal and an android). Did the fake actors use the original costumes? Was the original performance in public? or rather private? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 230 Registered: 6-2006 |
The fake actors do the performance professionally?yes Was the observer part of the original actors? hmmm...yope--not one of the 4 or has he at least a connection to them?yes Is it probable that I have heard of the original performance before?yes Took it place in the USA? i believe soIf so, is it well known abroad? not sure(I can't think of any performance including a half animal and an android).could be because of a still lingering FA--remember this is a screen performance Did the fake actors use the original costumes?no Was the original performance in public? or rather private?um, private or FA | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is anyone of the original actors part of the fake actors? Is there any other person relevant (apart from the cited original and fake actors and the observer)? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 233 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is anyone of the original actors part of the fake actors? no Is there any other person relevant (apart from the cited original and fake actors and the observer)?yesish...relevant but not extremely important | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 314 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does some transmogrification of characters take place in the original performance? Or some computer-generated wizardry to make a person look part-animal? or part-android? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 234 Registered: 6-2006 |
Does some transmogrification of characters take place in the original performance?no Or some computer-generated wizardry to make a person look part-animal? or part-android?no | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 315 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the observer part of the original performance? Or a director? Producer? Script writer? author? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 235 Registered: 6-2006 |
Was the observer part of the original performance?yes Or a director? and yopeishly this Producer? Script writer? and yopeishly thisauthor? These are REALLY hard to answer!!!! | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 318 Registered: 7-2006 |
(hard because it's close to giving away something critical, or hard because we're so far off beam? ) Was the original performance a pantomime? Or school play? Was the fake performance a pantomime? or school play? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 236 Registered: 6-2006 |
(hard because it's close to giving away something critical, or hard because we're so far off beam? ) hard because there is something unusual about the particular "act" they are performing in that makes some seemingly straightforward questions very ambiguous Was the original performance a pantomime? Or school play? neither Was the fake performance a pantomime? or school play?neither | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 320 Registered: 7-2006 |
Ok, the original act: - (sorry if some repeat questions) Were the original four a part of a film? Or Stage play? Or live act which was filmed? Were the four the whole act? Or part of some bigger show? With only one or two others? Or many others? Were the original actually acting characters? Or were the originals something somehow real which the fake actors are emulating? The viewer - he was part of the original performance, correct? Was this some improvised performance? Was the original performance a piece of entertainment? For an audience? Or did it have some other purpose? (e.g. acting out some ritual?) | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 237 Registered: 6-2006 |
Ok, the original act: - (sorry if some repeat questions) Were the original four a part of a film? yes Or Stage play? no Or live act which was filmed? no Were the four the whole act? noOr part of some bigger show?yes With only one or two others?no Or many others? yes Were the original actually acting characters?yes Or were the originals something somehow real which the fake actors are emulating?but this too... The viewer - he was part of the original performance, correct? yes Was this some improvised performance?no Was the original performance a piece of entertainment?yes For an audience?yes, a film-going audience anyway Or did it have some other purpose? (e.g. acting out some ritual?)no | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 238 Registered: 6-2006 |
there is still a pretty big FA here | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 135 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is the FA that the the film the original actors are in is an animation film in which only their voices feature? But the four fake actors are dressed in costumes of the characters but obviously have very different voices? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 239 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is the FA that the the film the original actors are in is an animation film in which only their voices feature? no But the four fake actors are dressed in costumes of the characters but obviously have very different voices?no | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 324 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is Star Wars relevant? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 242 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is Star Wars relevant?yope | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 327 Registered: 7-2006 |
Yope?? As in not Star Wars, but one of the series? Or a similar type of sci-fi fantasy as Star Wars? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is one of the real actors John Candy? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 244 Registered: 6-2006 |
Yope?? As in not Star Wars, but one of the series? no Or a similar type of sci-fi fantasy as Star Wars? noish Is one of the real actors John Candy?yes....ish. Anyone who really knows the film can probably understand the ish | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 246 Registered: 6-2006 |
BLOOPER ALERT Was the observer part of the original performance?yes Or a director? and yopeishly this Producer? Script writer? and yopeishly this author? My memory has betrayed me. The "viewer is indeed part of the original performance, but is NOT at all the director or writer--there is another actor who also plays these roles and I have gotten them confused. Sorry. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 329 Registered: 7-2006 |
So is the original Spaceballs? Or is the fake Spaceballs? Is the viewer part of the cast of Spaceballs? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 249 Registered: 6-2006 |
So is the original Spaceballs? yes Or is the fake Spaceballs? no Is the viewer part of the cast of Spaceballs?yes | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 342 Registered: 7-2006 |
Well, I imagine you're referring to Mel Brooks, but this wasn't the viewer, correct? i{(insert IMDB list of actors from Spaceballs)}... And what's being seen here is a copy of Spaceballs? By some amateur actors? And the fake performance is on film? Nothing to do with the original Star Wars cast? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 343 Registered: 7-2006 |
p.s. Presumable the original four would be Rick Moranis? John Candy? Daphne Zuniga? Joan Rivers? Thanks again to IMDB | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 256 Registered: 6-2006 |
Well, I imagine you're referring to Mel Brooks, but this wasn't the viewer, correct? correct i{(insert IMDB list of actors from Spaceballs)}... the viewer is Steven Tobolowsky...ish And what's being seen here is a copy of Spaceballs? NO By some amateur actors? NO And the fake performance is on film? yes Nothing to do with the original Star Wars cast? no--Star Wars only relevant in the fact that Spaceballs is a parody of it p.s. Presumable the original four would be Rick Moranis? NO John Candy? yes Daphne Zuniga? yes Joan Rivers? noish | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 257 Registered: 6-2006 |
add little ishes to John Candy and Daphne Zuniga | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 347 Registered: 7-2006 |
scratches head... | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 147 Registered: 10-2003 |
I seem to remember there's a scene where the bad guys capture the stunt doubles rather than the real characters. Hopefully this is relevant or else I'm out of ideas too! | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 269 Registered: 6-2006 |
I seem to remember there's a scene where the bad guys capture the stunt doubles rather than the real characters. Hopefully this is relevant or else I'm out of ideas too!YES! EXACTLY, that's a... *************SPOILER********** Scene from the movie Spaceballs: TROOPER: Don't move, or you're dead! Stand up! Captain, we've got them! CAPTAIN: Spectacular stunt, my friends, but all for not. Turn around please. LONE STARR, BARF, VESPA, and DOT turn around. The stunts of LONE STARR, BARF, VESPA, and DOT turn around. CAPTAIN: Ha. What a pity. What a pity. So, Princess, you thought you could outwit the imperious forces of.... CAPTAIN looks at VESPA with his mouth open. VESPA'S STUNT is a man with a cigar in his mouth. CAPTAIN: You idiots! These are not them! You've captured their stunt doubles! Search the area. Find them! Find them! The ishes and yope were because in the movie, the characters are aware that they are characters in a movie, and even watch the movie to see what will happen in a few minutes...so distinguishing between the real life actors, and the characters themselves who know they are actors is difficult, especially as the stunt doubles are considered doubles of the characters, not of the actors! Classic Mel Brooks confusion... Thanks everyone, make sure to play my other puzzles!!! | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 270 Registered: 6-2006 |
Oh, and "When did we get to disneyland" is another quote from the movie. |
