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Masha
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is a guy chasing a fat guy. The fat guy hides behind a skinny tree, so you should be able to see him. The chasing man fires and misses. Why?
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Could the guy(Can I name him Ivan?) see the fat guy(Can I name him Garet?)?
Was the tree skinnier than the fat guy? Were there low branches?
Does the chasing man fire a gun? Use real fire(ex. a flamethrower)? Fire a slingshot?
DOes the chasing man miss the tree? The fat man? Something else? Both? Does he do it on purpose?
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Could the guy(Can I name him Ivan?) see the fat guy(Can I name him Garet?)? no
Was the tree skinnier than the fat guy? yes Were there low branches? no
Does the chasing man fire a gun? yes Use real fire(ex. a flamethrower)? no, he uses a gun Fire a slingshot? no
DOes the chasing man miss the tree? irrelevent, actually The fat man? yes Something else? Both? Does he do it on purpose? he does not miss on purpose, no
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Is the gunman blind? Visually impaired in some way? Does he forget to cock the gun?
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Do we need to know why the gunman is chasing the fat guy?
Is there something which obscures the fat guy from view, other than the tree? Is it a subtantial object? or insubstantial? (eg shadow?)
Does the gunman know the fat guy is hiding behind the tree? Does he think he is somewhere else? Does he aim at the spot he thinks the fat guy is? Or does he just fire a wild shot?
Visual illusion? Is part of the tree underwater, and so refraction of light comes into play?
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These are two living humans, correct? And the scenario is as described, with Ivan chasing Garet(for presumably irrelevant reasons?) And Ivan the gunman is attempting to shoot Garet the fat guy with a gun? And the Garet is attempting to avoid being shot?
Is Garet hiding directly behind the tree, i.e. is he in a position where he is touching the tree, or could if he chose to do so? Or is he hiding, say, 2 miles behind...?
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Is the gunman blind? no Visually impaired in some way? no Does he forget to cock the gun? no

Do we need to know why the gunman is chasing the fat guy? not really
Is there something which obscures the fat guy from view, other than the tree? no
Is it a subtantial object? or insubstantial? (eg shadow?)
Does the gunman know the fat guy is hiding behind the tree? sort of
Does he think he is somewhere else? not really
Does he aim at the spot he thinks the fat guy is? yes
Or does he just fire a wild shot? no
Visual illusion? no
Is part of the tree underwater, and so refraction of light comes into play? no
Masha
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These are two living humans, correct? yes And the scenario is as described, with Ivan chasing Garet(for presumably irrelevant reasons?) yes And Ivan the gunman is attempting to shoot Garet the fat guy with a gun? yes And the Garet is attempting to avoid being shot? yes
Is Garet hiding directly behind the tree, i.e. is he in a position where he is touching the tree, or could if he chose to do so? Or is he hiding, say, 2 miles behind...? first one, touching the tree
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Was the guy with the gun even trying to shoot the fat guy with the shot?
Did he miss on purpose?
Was the fat guy hiding behind the skinny tree at the exact moment when the guy fired his gun?
Any science fiction involved?
Is it night time?
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Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the gunman close to the tree? less than a metre away? 5 metres away? 10? 15? more than that? Is there something between the tree and the gunman? a stream or similar?
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Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 11:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jack, see Masha's earlier post, he's touching the tree.
Is the Garet at ground level? Is Ivan?
Is Garet visually obscured from the gunman, other than by the tree trunk itself?
Would he be visible to another person standing somewhere closeby? Can Ivan actually see some parts of Garet?
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Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike--
No, the fat guy is the one near enough to touch the tree, nothing's said about the gunman..

Does Garet know that the gunman cannnot see him? Is he surprised that Ivan misses? or has he deliberately done something to ensure that he cannot be seen, despite the fact that the tree is skinny?
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My sincere apologies Jackie. I won't get very far if I don't read the posts properly...
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Does Ivan's gunshot hit anything else?
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Is Ivan disturbed when shooting?
Is the gun of the arm moved when shooting? (other than normal firing action, recoil, etc).
At the instant the bullet leaves the gun, if normal circumstances were to prevail, would the bullet hit Garet?
Would it hit the tree?
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gun *or* the arm
Masha
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Was the guy with the gun even trying to shoot the fat guy with the shot? yes
Did he miss on purpose? no
Was the fat guy hiding behind the skinny tree at the exact moment when the guy fired his gun? yes
Any science fiction involved? no
Is it night time? no
Masha
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Is the Garet at ground level? Is Ivan? both are
Is Garet visually obscured from the gunman, other than by the tree trunk itself? no
Would he be visible to another person standing somewhere closeby? no Can Ivan actually see some parts of Garet? no
Masha
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Does Garet know that the gunman cannnot see him? I guess so, yeah Is he surprised that Ivan misses? gosh that's hard, I'd say Yes and No - YOPE yay or has he deliberately done something to ensure that he cannot be seen, despite the fact that the tree is skinny? no

Does Ivan's gunshot hit anything else? irrelevent
Masha
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Is Ivan disturbed when shooting? please rephrase the question, I don't get what you mean exactly
Is the gun of the arm moved when shooting? (other than normal firing action, recoil, etc) no .
At the instant the bullet leaves the gun, if normal circumstances were to prevail, would the bullet hit Garet? yes
Would it hit the tree? no
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I meant did something (? or someone?) distract Ivan as he's about to shoot? Or something or someone strike/push/trip Ivan?
(But your earlier reply points in a different direction...)
So although Garet is standing behind a tree skinnier than himself, Ivan cannot see Garet, true? any of Garet?
And someone standing close to where Ivan is standing, similarly wouldn't be able to see Garet, true?
Someone standing on the same side of the tree as Garet wouldn't be able to see him?
Is he wearing something relevant to this? Some camouflage?
Masha
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I meant did something (? or someone?) distract Ivan as he's about to shoot? Or something or someone strike/push/trip Ivan? neither
(But your earlier reply points in a different direction...)
So although Garet is standing behind a tree skinnier than himself, Ivan cannot see Garet, true? any of Garet? yes
And someone standing close to where Ivan is standing, similarly wouldn't be able to see Garet, true? yes
Someone standing on the same side of the tree as Garet wouldn't be able to see him? probably not
Is he wearing something relevant to this? no Some camouflage? no
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Skinny tree= A real tree?
Is the reason Ivan misses hitting Garet is because Ivan can't see garet?
Is the reason Ivan misses hitting Garet is because
he is VERY far away from him?
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Hey Masha, you missed my post on July 27, 10.54 am..

Anything physically different about Garet apart from him being fat?
There is no other object around Garet except the tree..correct?

To clarify:

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At the instant the bullet leaves the gun, if normal circumstances were to prevail, would the bullet hit Garet? yes



So..something happened in the short time it took for the bullet to reach Garet? Did Garet move? Did something else move?
Did the bullet miss Garet by much?
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Is Garet invisible, in the HG Wells sense?
If Garet moved away and someone else stood where he was standing, would that person then be similarly difficult to see?
If Garet moved away from the tree, would he become more visible?
Is there only one tree in this scenario?
Or is he stood behind a skinny tree which is in the middle of a HUGE forest?
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Is the gunman close to the tree? yes less than a metre away? yes 5 metres away? 10? 15? more than that? Is there something between the tree and the gunman? no a stream or similar? no

Anything physically different about Garet apart from him being fat? no
There is no other object around Garet except the tree..correct? yes

Sorry, I meant to say no to the "At the instant the bullet...." question...I'm really sorry...

Did the bullet miss Garet by much? irrelevent

Skinny tree= A real tree? no
Is the reason Ivan misses hitting Garet is because Ivan can't see garet? yes
Is the reason Ivan misses hitting Garet is because
he is VERY far away from him? no
Masha
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Is Garet invisible, in the HG Wells sense? no
If Garet moved away and someone else stood where he was standing, would that person then be similarly difficult to see? yes
If Garet moved away from the tree, would he become more visible? no
Is there only one tree in this scenario? I'll just say no, for saying yes could lead to a FA
Or is he stood behind a skinny tree which is in the middle of a HUGE forest? no, the tree is not in the middle of a huge forest
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garet the fat guy=human?
So the skinny tree is a not a real tree but it's skinnier than garet?
Is the skinny tree a person?
An animal?
An object?
Masha
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garet the fat guy=human? yes
So the skinny tree is a not a real tree but it's skinnier than garet? yes
Is the skinny tree a person? no
An animal? no
An object? yes
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Is the skinny tree just a fake tree?
Is it a building?
A natural formation?
A man made structure?
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Is the Skinny tree completely blocking Ivan's view of Garet?
Is the Skinny Tree wider than Garet from the front side?
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Is the skinny tree just a fake tree? yes
Is it a building? no
A natural formation? no
A man made structure? yes

Is the Skinny tree completely blocking Ivan's view of Garet? no
Is the Skinny Tree wider than Garet from the front side? no
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Would any person standing behind the fake tree be unable to be seen?
If so, the fact the the guy is fat is irrelevant to the scenario?
And clothing is irrelevant?
If Garet were to move around, would this make him visible? If he were to stand beside the tree? in front of the tree (as viewed by the gunman)?
Does the skinny tree have lots of foliage?
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Would any person standing behind the fake tree be unable to be seen? yes
If so, the fact the the guy is fat is irrelevant to the scenario? sort of, it's relevant because you should be able to see him
And clothing is irrelevant? yes
If Garet were to move around, would this make him visible? no If he were to stand beside the tree? in front of the tree (as viewed by the gunman)? no to both
Does the skinny tree have lots of foliage? irrelevent
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Is the only thing preventing Ivan from seeing Garet is the Fake Tree that is in-between both of them?
When Ivan fired the gun was he aiming directly at Garet?
Did either Garet or the Fake Tree move when Ivan fired the shot?
Is the Fake tree in any way larger or wider than Garet is?
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Is the fake tree made of
glass? (Mirror?)
rubber?
steel?
wood?
paper?
cltoh?
ice?
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Are the gunman and the tree at different heights so he's having to fire uphill or downhill?
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Is the only thing preventing Ivan from seeing Garet is the Fake Tree that is in-between both of them? no, and as I said, Ivan SHOULD be able to see Garet
When Ivan fired the gun was he aiming directly at Garet? noish
Did either Garet or the Fake Tree move when Ivan fired the shot? no
Is the Fake tree in any way larger or wider than Garet is? no

Is the fake tree made of
glass? (Mirror?)
rubber?
steel?
wood?
paper?
cltoh?
ice? it is irrelevent

Are the gunman and the tree at different heights so he's having to fire uphill or downhill? no
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Any other persons or animals relevant? Any tree-dwellers?
Is something affecting Ivan's vision? Or obscuring Ivan's sight?
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Any other persons or animals relevant? Any tree-dwellers? no, not relevent
Is something affecting Ivan's vision? Or obscuring Ivan's sight? sort of, yesish, rephrase a little differently
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Is something other than the tree in direct line of sight between gunman and target?
Is something in the gunman's eyeline sufficiently to affect his aim?
Is some airborn substance (or creature?) affecting the view from man to target?
Is some atmospheric condition affecting the normal view?
Is is daylight?
Is is clear?
Is it foggy?
Is it raining?
Is it windy?
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Is something other than the tree in direct line of sight between gunman and target? no
Is something in the gunman's eyeline sufficiently to affect his aim? no
Is some airborn substance (or creature?) affecting the view from man to target? no
Is some atmospheric condition affecting the normal view? technically, no
Is is daylight? technically, no
Is is clear?
Is it foggy?
Is it raining?
Is it windy? all of these irrelevent
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oops I messed up, on the Is it daylight? I meant to say Technically, YES
SORRY!!!!
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eclipse??
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eclipse?? no, good idea though
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Is Ivan dazzled by the sun?

Any more details about the tree or the place relevant?
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Any televisions or video cameras involved?
Is what time of day it is relevant?
Was natural light relevant?
Artificial light relevant?
Was something about the fake tree itself causing Ivan to be unable to see Garet or was the Fake Tree irrelevant in that sense?
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Is it day, but dark?
Relevent how close Ivan is to the tree? Garet? Is it{Insert list of numbers of inches}?
Did Ivan run into the tree?
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Is Ivan dazzled by the sun? no

Any more details about the tree or the place relevant? place, yes, tree, no

Any televisions or video cameras involved? no
Is what time of day it is relevant? no
Was natural light relevant? no
Artificial light relevant? like electricity? yes
Was something about the fake tree itself causing Ivan to be unable to see Garet or was the Fake Tree irrelevant in that sense? no, the tree is not causing Ivan to be unable to see Garet

Is it day, but dark? yes!!!!!
Relevent how close Ivan is to the tree? Garet? Is it{Insert list of numbers of inches}? irrelevent
Did Ivan run into the tree? lol, no
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Is the reason why Ivan missed hitting Garet because they are indoors with no sunlight and the electricity either went out or was turned off?
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Is the reason why Ivan missed hitting Garet because they are indoors with no sunlight and the electricity either went out or was turned off? close enough, it was dark in the ROOM they were in
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Very clever lateral puzzle masha :-)
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Very clever lateral puzzle masha Thanks, but it's not finished yet, there's a bit more!
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Ah, so in recapping, Ivan missed hitting Garet because the room they were in was dark and thus Ivan couldn't see Garet because of that fact?
What other facts do we need to figure out?..
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 3:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it relevant why the room was dark? Or was your 'close enough' response a confirmation as to it being because the electricity was either not working, or just turned off (as far as room lighting goes)?
Relevant 'what' the room was or 'where' it was located at?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A room with a fake tree?? Some kind of disco or club?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 2:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it Price Chopper?(Yes, my grociery store has a huge fake tree 'growing' through it)
Was it christmastime?
Were they in a public building? A private home? Ivan's? Garet's?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 8:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah, so in recapping, Ivan missed hitting Garet because the room they were in was dark and thus Ivan couldn't see Garet because of that fact?
What other facts do we need to figure out?.. Basically why they were in the room, I guess

Was it relevant why the room was dark? no Or was your 'close enough' response a confirmation as to it being because the electricity was either not working, or just turned off (as far as room lighting goes)? no
Relevant 'what' the room was or 'where' it was located at? Rephrase "what" the room was, "where" irrelevent

A room with a fake tree?? yes Some kind of disco or club? no
Masha
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Was it Price Chopper?(Yes, my grociery store has a huge fake tree 'growing' through it) Price Chopper? as in, a grocery store? no
Was it christmastime? irrelevent
Were they in a public building? A private home? Ivan's? Garet's? Um...sort of a public building, not really though
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 5:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the tree a piece of theater scenery? So, where they in a theater? In a film studio?
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 9:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In a zoo? Some kind of nocturnal creature exhibit?
Building into which the public can come?
A private house?
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Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

**********SPOILER**********

Was the tree a piece of theater scenery? So, where they in a theater? In a film studio?
YES! They were in a film studio, shooting a movie. It was nighttime in the movie so that Ivan could not see Garet. But it was technically daylight.

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