| Author | Message | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2006 |
What Mike read cost him his life. | ||
| Masha
Unregistered guest |
Is Mike a human? Did he read a book? Did he read a magazine? A journal? A random piece of paper? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 4 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is Mike a human? yes Did he read a book? no Did he read a magazine? no A journal? no A random piece of paper? noish | ||
| Masha
Unregistered guest |
Random guess: A piece of paper that said "if you read this you will die"? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2006 |
Random guess: A piece of paper that said "if you read this you will die"? no | ||
| Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 314 Registered: 3-2006 |
Not Ernest Scribbler's joke from the famous Python sketch? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 60 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is this a classic? I remember one about an author planning a murder, writing the method in a book and someone reading the book, leading to their demise? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 7 Registered: 7-2006 |
Not Ernest Scribbler's joke from the famous Python sketch? no | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 8 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is this a classic? I remember one about an author planning a murder, writing the method in a book and someone reading the book, leading to their demise? no | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 84 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does the statement mean what it seems to mean, that a living(?) human called Mike read something which was written down(?) on paper(?) or computer screen(?), the ultimate consequence of this act of reading meaning Mike ends up dead? Dead by murder? Accident? Natural causes? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 10 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does the statement mean what it seems to mean, that a living(?) yes human yes called Mike read something which was written down(?) yes on paper(?) yes or computer screen(?), no the ultimate consequence of this act of reading meaning Mike ends up dead? yesish Dead by murder? noish Accident? yesish Natural causes? no | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 87 Registered: 7-2006 |
It's never natural causes, is it? (-: So maybe "cost him his life" means not literal life, but quality of life? Social life? Sex life? Work life? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 11 Registered: 7-2006 |
It's never natural causes, is it? (-: Not often in lateral puzzles :P So maybe "cost him his life" means not literal life, but quality of life? Social life? Sex life? Work life? No to all of these, it was his life, literally. | ||
| Masha
Unregistered guest |
Did reading the paper distract him from doing something? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 12 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did reading the paper distract him from doing something? no | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 91 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does the reading cause him to take some action he otherwise wouldn't? Or cause him not to take some action he otherwise would? How long after the reading does his life end? Seconds? Minutes? Days? Weeks? Years? Relevant? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 13 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does the reading cause him to take some action he otherwise wouldn't? yesish Or cause him not to take some action he otherwise would? no How long after the reading does his life end? Seconds? Minutes? Days? Weeks? Years? Relevant? Not necessarily relevant but in this case he was dead in less than an hour. | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 240 Registered: 3-2006 |
How long is this lethal text--a few sentences? less? a paragraph? a page? 2 pages? a few pages? the length of a novella? the length of a novel? Relevant who wrote it? was it an author? someone famous? someone he knew? a friend? an enemy? a relative? Did he know who had written it? Did he recognise the handwriting? Was it written in pencil? pen? something else? Relevant? Did anyone give him this text? or did he come across it by chance? Relevant? What was the form of the text--a poem? a letter? a story? an argument? a scene from a play? some article about certain practices, or scientific discoveries etc? Did reading it make him curious about trying something? During the hour after he read it and before he died, did he have any interaction with anyone else? Is any other person at all relevant in any way? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 100 Registered: 7-2006 |
[I think I'll wait for the replies to that little lot before asking more (-: ] oh, except a couple... Is this written in a newspaper? Does Mike take his own life? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 16 Registered: 7-2006 |
How long is this lethal text--a few sentences? less? a paragraph? a page? 2 pages? a few pages? the length of a novella? the length of a novel? 2 pages is about right. Relevant who wrote it? yesish was it an author? no someone famous? no someone he knew?yes a friend?yes an enemy?no a relative?no Did he know who had written it?yesDid he recognise the handwriting?yes but irrelevant Was it written in pencil? pen? something else? Relevant? most likely in pen but irelevant Did anyone give him this text? yes or did he come across it by chance? no Relevant? yes What was the form of the text--a poem? a letter? yes a story? an argument? a scene from a play? some article about certain practices,noish or scientific discoveries etc? no Did reading it make him curious about trying something? yesish but misleading towards irrelevancy During the hour after he read it and before he died, did he have any interaction with anyone else? yes Is any other person at all relevant in any way? As far as any other person not already referenced to in any previous questions/answers up to this point, no. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 17 Registered: 7-2006 |
[I think I'll wait for the replies to that little lot before asking more (-: ] oh, except a couple... Is this written in a newspaper? no Does Mike take his own life? no | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 244 Registered: 3-2006 |
So the letter was written by his friend, to him? And given to him by this same friend? Gender of this friend relevant? Beyond them being friends, is there anything about this relationship that we need to find out? Did the friend intend for Mike to die? Was the letter a friendly one? What was the mood--angry? depressed? happy? excited? Did the letter request Mike to do something? admonish him in any way? The person he interacted with after reading the letter--the writer of the letter? someone else? Did he see this person in the flesh? or was it communication over the phone? through email? Was this person present when he died? Was Mike alone when he read the letter? If so, did he then call his friend? go to see him? or did his friend just happen to pop by? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 21 Registered: 7-2006 |
So the letter was written by his friend, to him? yes to both And given to him by this same friend? yes Gender of this friend relevant? no Beyond them being friends, is there anything about this relationship that we need to find out? yesish Did the friend intend for Mike to die? no Was the letter a friendly one? yes What was the mood--angry? depressed? happy? excited? none of these Did the letter request Mike to do something? yesish admonish him in any way? In one sense of the word, yes The person he interacted with after reading the letter--the writer of the letter? There is a false assumption in the wording of this question. someone else? yes Did he see this person in the flesh? False assumption in wording. or was it communication over the phone? no through email? no Was this person present when he died? False assumption in wording Was Mike alone when he read the letter? yes If so, did he then call his friend? no go to see him? no or did his friend just happen to pop by? no | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 245 Registered: 3-2006 |
The FA: It wasn't a person? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 23 Registered: 7-2006 |
The FA: It wasn't a person? Correct | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 246 Registered: 3-2006 |
A religious figure? A robot? An animal? An insect? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 119 Registered: 7-2006 |
Multiple persons? Did Mike's friend suggest in the letter that Mike should go somewhere specific? Or do something specific? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 27 Registered: 7-2006 |
A religious figure? A robot? An animal? This one. An insect? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 28 Registered: 7-2006 |
Multiple persons? no Did Mike's friend suggest in the letter that Mike should go somewhere specific? no Or do something specific? yes | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 130 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did the writer of the letter suggest some interaction with an animal, e.g. "you really should buy a dog/cat/skunk/stick insect"? was the animal the thing that lead to Mike's death? Through attack? Through allergy? Through activity with the animal? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 29 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did the writer of the letter suggest some interaction with an animal, e.g. "you really should buy a dog/cat/skunk/stick insect"? Yope to first half, no to example was the animal the thing that lead to Mike's death? yope Through attack? yes Through allergy? no Through activity with the animal? Pls rephrase | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 142 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did the writer of the letter suggest buying an animal? demand buying an animal? request visiting an animal? demand visiting an animal? suggest or request visiting a person who owns an animal? Was the animal a domestic dog? domestic cat? big cat? wild animal? small animal? reptile? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 32 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did the writer of the letter suggest buying an animal? no demand buying an animal? no request visiting an animal? no demand visiting an animal? no suggest or request visiting a person who owns an animal? no Was the animal a domestic dog? domestic cat? big cat? wild animal? This one. no to rest. small animal? reptile? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 164 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the letter a generally friendly letter? Was the writer of the letter alive at the time Mike got it? Was a single, specific wild animal mentioned in the letter? Was a single animal responsible for Mike's death? Or a group of wild animals? Was the animal (or were the animals) predominently... Land-based animal(s)? Sea-based animal(s)? air-based animal(s)? the kind of animals most would consider to be dangerous? | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 251 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is he at home when he dies? Was he at home when he read the letter? Did he bring the wild animal into his home? Did he find this animal in the wild? forest, jungle, etc? Did he go to the zoo? Did he want to conduct some kind of experiment? Is his occupation relevant? Is he a vet? Is the writer of the letter a vet? His occupation relevant? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 39 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the letter a generally friendly letter? yes Was the writer of the letter alive at the time Mike got it? irrelevant actually Was a single, specific wild animal mentioned in the letter? yes Was a single animal responsible for Mike's death? yes Or a group of wild animals? no Was the animal (or were the animals) predominently... Land-based animal(s)? Sea-based animal(s)? This one air-based animal(s)? the kind of animals most would consider to be dangerous? yes | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 40 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is he at home when he dies? no Was he at home when he read the letter? no Did he bring the wild animal into his home? no Did he find this animal in the wild? Possibly a FA in how you use the word 'find' in that sentence, but yes. forest, jungle, etc? Did he go to the zoo? Did he want to conduct some kind of experiment? Is his occupation relevant? Is he a vet? Is the writer of the letter a vet? His occupation relevant? No to all of those. | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 168 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did the letter actually mention the animal? Or any animals? Did the letter suggest that Mike tried some activity? Water-based activity? Learning to swim? Diving? Looking for something underwater? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 41 Registered: 7-2006 |
Correction on one of my responses, on the question of "Was a single, specific wild animal mentioned in the letter?" i answered yes but since this question could mean two different things i should have answered 'yope'. A rephrase could help. Did the letter actually mention the animal? yes Or any animals? yes Did the letter suggest that Mike tried some activity? Hm, not sure i understand this question, rephrase? Water-based activity? yes Learning to swim? Diving? Looking for something underwater? NO to rest Although i didn't understand your lead-in question to those activities i was able to mark the only one mentioned that was relevant here. | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 178 Registered: 7-2006 |
(I was trying to determine if the letter said something like "you should swim with sharks/go shark fishing, it's a really great experience") Were the type of animals mentioned in the letter the ones which led to his death? Were the animals: - Shark? Octopus? Sea Snake? Crocodile / Alligator? Jellyfish? Crab? Lobster? Clam? Goldfish? Whales? Other? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 42 Registered: 7-2006 |
(I was trying to determine if the letter said something like "you should swim with sharks/go shark fishing, it's a really great experience") Noish Were the type of animals mentioned in the letter the ones which led to his death? Yes, but to clarify, and also give a hint, the animal(s) were 'plural' as far as the mentioning in the letter, but 'singular' in terms of leading to Mike's death. Were the animals: - Shark? yes Octopus? Sea Snake? Crocodile / Alligator? Jellyfish? Crab? Lobster? Clam? Goldfish? Whales? Other? No to rest Good progress, it's almost pieced together, but there is still a significent aspect still not uncovered, which is how did the letter lead to Mike's death. | ||
| Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 333 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it some play on words? Eg if his friend said "there are a few sharks in the area" and he read it as "there are few sharks in the area"? Did he read the letter exactly as his friend intended it? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 43 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is it some play on words? no Eg if his friend said "there are a few sharks in the area" and he read it as "there are few sharks in the area"? no Did he read the letter exactly as his friend intended it? Mike read and understood the letter exactly as his friend had intended him to. | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 346 Registered: 3-2004 |
Did he die (or was attacked) in the water? If so, did he intentionally enter in the water? Fell in it? When he left his home after reading the letter, was he heading straight away for the water? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 44 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did he die (or was attacked) in the water? Yes to both If so, did he intentionally enter in the water? no Fell in it? yesish When he left his home after reading the letter, was he heading straight away for the water? False assumption in the wording of this question. | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 349 Registered: 3-2004 |
Was the water (swimming? pool?) in his house? Did he know that there was a?\the? shark in it? Was the water connected with some other form of water (nearest river, sea, lake)? Is nevertheless any river, sea, lake... any water other than the one we have already mentioned relevant? Did the friend write that sharks appeared in nearby water? Did the shark come in the water by itself or somebody had put it in? | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 353 Registered: 3-2004 |
Did somebody push him? Had the shark eaten anything relevant (but him, of course  )? If so, did he know it? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 195 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did the letter suggest some airborn activity? Which maybe could (or did?) take place over water? Hang on, sharks were mentioned in the letter, correct? Shark fishing? Flying somewhere to see sharks? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 45 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the water (swimming? pool?) in his house? no Did he know that there was a?\the? shark in it? noish Was the water connected with some other form of water (nearest river, sea, lake)? no Is nevertheless any river, sea, lake... any water other than the one we have already mentioned relevant? no Did the friend write that sharks appeared in nearby water? Not sure what you mean, rephrase? Did the shark come in the water by itself or somebody had put it in? Possible FA in this question, but i will say that no one put the shark 'in' anything. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 46 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did somebody push him? no Had the shark eaten anything relevant (but him, of course )? If so, did he know it? Nothing else the shark ate was relevant. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 47 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did the letter suggest some airborn activity? no Which maybe could (or did?) take place over water? no Hang on, sharks were mentioned in the letter, correct? yes Shark fishing? no Flying somewhere to see sharks? no | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 357 Registered: 3-2004 |
The shark attacked him in the water, right? Therefore, it WAS in the water, correct? It could come to the water by itself (swimming) or somebody could put it in, OK? Do I miss something? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 48 Registered: 7-2006 |
The shark attacked him in the water, right? Correct Therefore, it WAS in the water, correct? Correct It could come to the water by itself (swimming) or somebody could put it in, OK? Do I miss something? This is why i needed you to clarify, because the shark never 'came into' the water, it was always in the water, the shark in question moved from one area of the water to another part, and to also clarify, the 'water' in this puzzle is the Ocean. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 49 Registered: 7-2006 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: Did the shark come in the water by itself or somebody had put it in? Possible FA in this question, but i will say that no one put the shark 'in' anything. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here was the post in question, see my clarification in my previous post. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 50 Registered: 7-2006 |
I've decided to re-state my clarification in even another way, so that you can be completely on target with this. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: Did the shark come in the water by itself or somebody had put it in? Possible FA in this question, but i will say that no one put the shark 'in' anything. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The shark attacked him in the water, right? Correct Therefore, it WAS in the water, correct? Correct It could come to the water by itself (swimming) or somebody could put it in, OK? Do I miss something? The way you originally asked your question left a 'double meaning' hanging out there, "did the shark come 'in' the water or did someone put it 'in' " was the way you originally phrased it, and I had to be sure you weren't thinking the shark somehow came 'into' the water from somewhere else entirely, but since you clarified your question i can now say 'yes', the shark did swim 'to' the area where Mike was, on its own. But at no time was the shark in any other environment except the body of water in question, which is the ocean. | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 258 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was he far away from the ocean when he read the letter? Was he on a ship/boat/similar? Was he fully clothed when he fell into the water? Or was he in swimwear, with diving equipment etc? Did he want to see the sharks? Did he at any point think that what he was doing was dangerous? (apart from when the shark lunges at him, of course) Did his friend expect Mike to do what he did? Had his friend previously done something similar? And wasn't hurt? | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 359 Registered: 3-2004 |
Thank you for the clarifications, there was no need to bother so much. Was there anyone else in the construction (house, boat, whatever) where Mike was? If so, did they see that he (yesishly) fell? Were they glad because of it? Did they want to help him? Were they trying to help him? Was Mike in the ocean for some time before the shark attacked him, or it happened as soon as he fell in? Did he see the shark before he fell? Did he see the shark before it attacked him? Was he trying to escape? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 51 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was he far away from the ocean when he read the letter? no Was he on a ship/boat/similar? Yope Was he fully clothed when he fell into the water? yes Or was he in swimwear, with diving equipment etc? no Did he want to see the sharks? no Did he at any point think that what he was doing was dangerous? (apart from when the shark lunges at him, of course) yes Did his friend expect Mike to do what he did? yope Had his friend previously done something similar? possibly And wasn't hurt? possibly | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 52 Registered: 7-2006 |
Thank you for the clarifications, there was no need to bother so much. Your welcome, just doing my job as a puzzle host. Was there anyone else in the construction (house, boat, whatever) where Mike was? If so, did they see that he (yesishly) fell? Were they glad because of it? Did they want to help him? Were they trying to help him? No one saw Mike, apart from the shark. Was Mike in the ocean for some time before the shark attacked him, Less than an hour. or it happened as soon as he fell in? Not right away. Did he see the shark before he fell? no Did he see the shark before it attacked him? Not relevant. Was he trying to escape? yes | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 361 Registered: 3-2004 |
Was he in a submarine? Was he in any vehicle? A water vehicle? An airplane? Was he in a building (on water?)? About an hour he spent in the water -- was he trying to go back? Was it possible? Did he realize that it was possible/not possible? Was he awake? Drunk? Did he try to do anything to make his situation better? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 53 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was he in a submarine? no Was he in any vehicle? At one point he was. A water vehicle? yes An airplane? no Was he in a building (on water?)? no About an hour he spent in the water -- was he trying to go back? no Was it possible? no Did he realize that it was possible/not possible? He knew it wasn't possible. Was he awake? yes Drunk? no Did he try to do anything to make his situation better? Yes | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 363 Registered: 3-2004 |
Hovercraft? Well-known vehicle? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 54 Registered: 7-2006 |
Hovercraft? no Well-known vehicle? yes | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 55 Registered: 7-2006 |
Here's a free factoid, the vehicle was a boat, on a previous question it was asked if he was on a 'boat' etc. and i answered 'yope' because Mike wasn't always on the boat during the whole time period therefore i couldn't give a full yes. | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 364 Registered: 3-2004 |
Did he read the letter at home? Or at the boat? If the first one, did he go on the boat because of something he read? Immediately after reading the letter? Had he been in the water before he fell and the shark attacked him? Did he go to the boat intentionally? Is it relevant why he couldn't go back on the boat? Because it was broken? It sunk? He simply couldn't climb up, but everything about the boat was OK? He forgot to put down the ladder? | ||
| Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 341 Registered: 3-2006 |
When you say he is trying to escape, is this from the shark? Or does the shark gobble him while he is fleeing something else? Is he fishing for sharks? Does the letter imply that the sharks in this area are absent? Or perhaps that they are harmless? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 202 Registered: 7-2006 |
Were sharks mentioned in the letter as a warning to the potential danger of some activity? Or mentioned in a manner to suggest the sharks in question weren't dangerous? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 56 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did he read the letter at home? no Or at the boat? noish If the first one, did he go on the boat because of something he read? Immediately after reading the letter? Had he been in the water before he fell and the shark attacked him? no Did he go to the boat intentionally? yes Is it relevant why he couldn't go back on the boat? yes Because it was broken? yesish It sunk? This one. He simply couldn't climb up, but everything about the boat was OK? He forgot to put down the ladder? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 57 Registered: 7-2006 |
When you say he is trying to escape, is this from the shark? yes Or does the shark gobble him while he is fleeing something else? no Is he fishing for sharks? no Does the letter imply that the sharks in this area are absent? no Or perhaps that they are harmless? no | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 58 Registered: 7-2006 |
Were sharks mentioned in the letter as a warning to the potential danger of some activity? yes, precisely. Or mentioned in a manner to suggest the sharks in question weren't dangerous? no | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 59 Registered: 7-2006 |
Good progress, and again, keep in mind, the key to this puzzle is that the letter actually LEAD to Mike's death in someway. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 60 Registered: 7-2006 |
And to elaborate a bit more on one question i answered so as to prevent the chance of any false assumptions whatsoever.. Had he been in the water before he fell and the shark attacked him? No, he only went into the water AFTER he 'fell'-ish, and then after that, a bit later on while he was in the water was when the shark attacked and killed him. | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 383 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was he in a small one-person boat? Was this a lifeboat? Was he in a different boat/ship at some earlier point? Was he far away from the shore (i.e. much further than any person could swim)? Did he read the letter while he was inside a boat? while he was swimming? Was there a hole in the boat? Did he try to stuff the hole with the letter? Was the letter floating in the sea at some point? Were there blood stains on the letter? Did blood attract the shark? | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 371 Registered: 3-2004 |
Therefore, "fell"-ish means that his boat sank? What about the letter did lead to Mike's death -- the content? the paper? the fact that it was the friend who wrote it? something on it what is not usually found on letters? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 61 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was he in a small one-person boat? It was a farily small boat but big enough to hold a few people. Was this a lifeboat? no Was he in a different boat/ship at some earlier point? no Was he far away from the shore (i.e. much further than any person could swim)? yes Did he read the letter while he was inside a boat? no while he was swimming? yes Was there a hole in the boat? Possibly, but it's not relevant why the boat sunk. Did he try to stuff the hole with the letter? no Was the letter floating in the sea at some point? yesish Were there blood stains on the letter? Possibly, but explore. Did blood attract the shark? Blood attracted the shark, yes, but explore. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 62 Registered: 7-2006 |
Therefore, "fell"-ish means that his boat sank? Mike's boat sank and he was propelled into the water, yes. What about the letter did lead to Mike's death -- the content? Partially, yes. the paper? yesish, but a very delicate yesish. the fact that it was the friend who wrote it? In a way, yes. something on it what is not usually found on letters? no | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 398 Registered: 3-2006 |
He was far away from the shore - did he go all the way in his boat? Was it a motor boat? rowing boat? sailing boat? Relevant how he got to his current location? Was the letter written on paper? skin? human skin? Was his friend with him at sea? Did his friend die? | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 216 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the letter some kind of treasure map? He read the letter when he was actually in the water? Rather than simply in the boat on the water? Did he receive the letter before he boarded the boat? before the boat sank? Did he read the letter before he boarded the boat? before the boat sank? | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 372 Registered: 3-2004 |
Is the ink relevant? Was it actually blood? Did Mike know for the existence of the letter before he fell? The blood we are talking about -- was it Mike's blood? Did he cut himself? With the letter? His friend's blood? An animal's blood? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 63 Registered: 7-2006 |
He was far away from the shore yes - did he go all the way in his boat? yes Was it a motor boat? rowing boat? sailing boat? This one. Relevant how he got to his current location? Yes, but basically it has already been established now, Mike was out in his boat, it sunk, and that's how he ended up in the ocean. Was the letter written on paper? yes skin? no human skin? no Was his friend with him at sea? no Did his friend die? Not relevant. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 64 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the letter some kind of treasure map? no He read the letter when he was actually in the water? yes Rather than simply in the boat on the water? Correct, not in the boat. Did he receive the letter before he boarded the boat? yes before the boat sank? yes Did he read the letter before he boarded the boat? no before the boat sank? no | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 65 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the ink relevant? no Was it actually blood? There was actual blood involved, yes. Did Mike know for the existence of the letter before he fell? yes The blood we are talking about -- was it Mike's blood? yes Did he cut himself? yes With the letter? yesish His friend's blood? no An animal's blood? no | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 227 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was it necessary for Mike to be in the water before he read the letter? Because the contents weren't visible until it was in the water? Because of some condition attached to the reading of the letter? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 66 Registered: 7-2006 |
Slight correction with one the responses i just made.. he cut himself? yes With the letter? yesish The 'yesish' can also be a 'noish' in the literal sense. | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 67 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was it necessary for Mike to be in the water before he read the letter? noish Because the contents weren't visible until it was in the water? No, the contents were visible in the normal sense. Because of some condition attached to the reading of the letter? no in the physical sense, and noish in the 'necessary' sense. | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 229 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did Mike cut himself on the letter? on the envelope? With a letter opener? Had it been requested by the writer that Mike be in the water before he read it. Was the actual letter in a container (? or envelope?) And if so, did the container have anything significant written on it, other than Mike's name? | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 68 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did Mike cut himself on the letter? noish on the envelope? noish With a letter opener? yesish, though it wasn't a letter opener of the traditional kind, but since you are basically correct, it was actually a knife that Mike used, which was stored along with the letter and a few other small items that Mike kept in a sport's bag with him that went overboard when the boat sank and that Mike had managed to grab amongst the floating debris left behind. Had it been requested by the writer that Mike be in the water before he read it. no Was the actual letter in a container? or envelope?) Closer to envelope, and since you are close enough on this issue as well, it was a fast delivery mail package kind of envelope, the ones that are more like sealed packages than envelopes. And if so, did the container have anything significant written on it, other than Mike's name? The mail package also had the name of the sender on it, Mike's friend. | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 233 Registered: 7-2006 |
(good, progress at last - now I assume it'll help to figure out why Mike took the letter to the sea unopened, and waited until he'd gone in the water to try to open the package) | ||
| Jared Donovan (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 69 Registered: 7-2006 |
(good, progress at last - now I assume it'll help to figure out why Mike took the letter to the sea unopened, and waited until he'd gone in the water to try to open the package) Yes, very true. | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 235 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was there anything else of significance in the package other than the letter? | ||
| Bojan Basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 374 Registered: 3-2004 |
Did Mike actually want to read the letter under any special circumstances (i.e. in the water)? If so, is it relevant why he wanted that? Or he simply hadn't read it and when his boat sunk he thought that there may be some relevant informations written there? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 260 Registered: 3-2006 |
So before Mike opened the envelope, he knew who had sent it, correct? If the sender had been someone else, would Mike have opened it in the water? would he have gone out in the boat at all? Was the sinking of the boat a complete accident? If the boat hadn't sunk, would Mike have jumped into the water to read the letter? Would it have read it on the boat? | ||
| Crashknight (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 70 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was there anything else of significance in the package other than the letter? no | ||
| Crashknight (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 71 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did Mike actually want to read the letter under any special circumstances (i.e. in the water)? If so, is it relevant why he wanted that? No to both. Or he simply hadn't read it and when his boat sunk he thought that there may be some relevant informations written there? Yes, precisely. | ||
| Crashknight (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 72 Registered: 7-2006 |
So before Mike opened the envelope, he knew who had sent it, correct? Correct If the sender had been someone else, would Mike have opened it in the water? Possibly, but the fact that his friend sent him it wasn't the main factor in why Mike opened the letter, and when he opened the letter. would he have gone out in the boat at all? Yes Was the sinking of the boat a complete accident? Yes If the boat hadn't sunk, would Mike have jumped into the water to read the letter? No Would it have read it on the boat? Possibly, the only definite answer for this question is that Mike didn't read the letter before the boat sank. | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 263 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did Mike finish reading the letter before the shark got him? Would the shark have attacked him if he had opened the envelope, (cutting himself in the process) but didn't read the content? Was there any advice in the letter that Mike tried to follow, but which only increased his chances of getting eaten? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 241 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the boat trip merely a coincidence? Was it something Mike did regularly as recreation? Did the letter actually mention a boat trip? Did the letter mention this specific boat trip? Did Mike somehow think opening the letter would help him in his predicament after the boat sank? | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 418 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did Mike intend to use the letter for something else besides reading it? Did he roll it to make a snorkel? Did he intend to use the package for something? Did the package contain that plastic foil with air cushions? Could Mike swim? Was he a good swimmer? | ||
| Bojan_basic (Bojan_basic)
New member Username: Bojan_basic Post Number: 375 Registered: 3-2004 |
Had he read something in the letter (about sharks) and then hurried to open the envelope to read the rest, but he cut himself while doing that (because he was in a hurry)? | ||
| Crashknight (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 73 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did Mike finish reading the letter before the shark got him? yes Would the shark have attacked him if he had opened the envelope, (cutting himself in the process) but didn't read the content? Yes, after Mike had cut himself and bled while trying to open the letter it was too late once he actually read the letter, because his fate was sealed by that point. However, the content of the letter is very relevant because it is what compelled Mike to want to open and read the letter in the first place. Was there any advice in the letter that Mike tried to follow, but which only increased his chances of getting eaten? Yope | ||
| Crashknight (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 74 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the boat trip merely a coincidence? no Was it something Mike did regularly as recreation? Important question. No, this was his first time. Did the letter actually mention a boat trip? yes Did the letter mention this specific boat trip? yes Did Mike somehow think opening the letter would help him in his predicament after the boat sank? yes | ||
| Crashknight (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 75 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did Mike intend to use the letter for something else besides reading it? no Did he roll it to make a snorkel? no Did he intend to use the package for something? no Did the package contain that plastic foil with air cushions? Yes, but not relevant. Could Mike swim? Was he a good swimmer? Yes to both. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 242 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was Mike aware of the general contents of the letter before he opened it? Was Mike's friend known to Mike as an expert in boats? An expert in sharks? Had Mike agreed with the letter writer to undergo this boat trip? Was the letter given to Mike as a specific "open in case of emergency" kind of letter? Did the letter say something to the effect of "you're ok in the water with sharks as long as they don't smell blood"? | ||
| Crashknight (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 76 Registered: 7-2006 |
Had he read something in the letter (about sharks) and then hurried to open the envelope to read the rest, but he cut himself while doing that (because he was in a hurry)? Mike had not read any part of the letter prior to that first time he read it while in the water, but he was in fact in a hurry to read it. | ||
| Crashknight (Crashknight)
New member Username: Crashknight Post Number: 77 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was Mike aware of the general contents of the letter before he opened it? yes Was Mike's friend known to Mike as an expert in boats? yes An expert in sharks? noish, but not exactly relevant, in a sense. Had Mike agreed with the letter writer to undergo this boat trip? Not precisely relevant. Was the letter given to Mike as a specific "open in case of emergency" kind of letter? Yope Did the letter say something to the effect of "you're ok in the water with sharks as long as they don't smell blood"? Part of the letter did say something to that affect, yes. Ok, I think most of the important stuff has been mentioned now or atleast alluded to, or close enough. ******* SPOILER ********** Mike took off to the ocean on a sailing trip for the first time, Mike's friend, who is an avid and expert at sailing himself, informed Mike that he'd be sending him an important letter detailing what to do just in case the novice Mike crashed his sail boat and was stuck at sea. Mike received that letter, still in its package, and took it with him on his trip but neglected to read the letter. During his trip, out in the middle of the ocean, Mike's sailboat wrecked and sank. After the disaster Mike saw his sports bag, which contained the letter and a few other items floating on the surface of the ocean, he swam and grabbed it with the urgent purpose of reading the letter to get some idea of what he should do now. Mike also had a knife in his sports bag and he decided to quickly slit the mail package open in order to get out the letter, but he accidentally cut his hand with the knife and it started to bleed, Mike began reading the whole letter, and in it, Mike's friend described all the things that Mike should do in that situation. One of the lines his friend wrote was "If you find yourself submerged in the middle of the ocean, If at all possible, avoid any activities which could result in you getting a cut or puncture wound, because sharks can smell blood from miles away." Mike knew then he was in trouble, and less than an hour later Mike was attacked and killed by a shark. The end. Good job and thanks to all of you who participated in this puzzle. |
