| Author | Message | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 91 Registered: 10-2003 |
On some occasions, they perceive him to be a gentleman. If only they knew! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 348 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are any of the following relevant: security guards? cross-dressing? gender confusion? sports? public lavatories? espionage? Are "they" a specific group of people, or just all people he generally comes into contact with? By "gentleman" do you mean " a socially refined male adult" or something more specific? Eg "gentlemen and players"? Does he perform activities which seem chivalrous? If so, does he have an ulterior motive for these activities? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 92 Registered: 10-2003 |
Woodworm Are any of the following relevant: security guards? cross-dressing? gender confusion? sports? public lavatories? espionage? No, but I wish they were, it would make his life a lot more interesting! Are "they" a specific group of people,not this one or just all people he generally comes into contact with? but this one By "gentleman" do you mean " a socially refined male adult" this one or something more specific? Eg "gentlemen and players"? Does he perform activities which seem chivalrous? If so, does he have an ulterior motive for these activities? yes to the first, yope to the second | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 276 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is he chivalrous in a general sense, or is/are there a specific/a few specific action(s) that he does? do we need to find out what they are? When he seems to be a gentleman, is he actually aiming to appear to be one? Does he behave this way sometimes when the mood strikes him, or do special circumstances need to be in place before he displays his chivalry? His occupation relevant? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 97 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is he chivalrous in a general sense, or is/are there a specific/a few specific action(s) that he does? There's one specific thing do we need to find out what they are? indeed! When he seems to be a gentleman, is he actually aiming to appear to be one? Not at all Does he behave this way sometimes when the mood strikes him,nope or do special circumstances need to be in place before he displays his chivalry? yes His occupation relevant? No | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 279 Registered: 3-2006 |
Pulling out chairs? giving up his seat? opening doors? offering to carry something? bowing? letting others cut his queue? buying a drink, or similar? letting a female do something first? or trying something out first to ensure that it is safe? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 281 Registered: 7-2006 |
Something like opening doors for women? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 102 Registered: 10-2003 |
Jumpingjack Pulling out chairs? giving up his seat? opening doors? offering to carry something? bowing? letting others cut his queue? buying a drink, or similar? letting a female do something first? or trying something out first to ensure that it is safe? none of these | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 103 Registered: 10-2003 |
Plebeian Something like opening doors for women? something like this, but not this specifically | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 284 Registered: 7-2006 |
(Jack's post musta come in at the same time as mine. Great minds...  ) But is it true to say that some act he does that outwardly appears gentlemanly, in fact has other motives behind it? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 106 Registered: 10-2003 |
Plebeian But is it true to say that some act he does that outwardly appears gentlemanly, in fact has other motives behind it? only a yope,but explore | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 289 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does his outwardly-gentlemanly act involve interaction specifically with women? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2003 |
Plebeian Does his outwardly-gentlemanly act involve interaction specifically with women? Yes | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 282 Registered: 3-2006 |
His yopeish other motives: his own comfort? financial gain? trying to avoid something/someone? trying to get lucky? Does he help women with tasks? Maybe he pretends to help them open their drink cans, so that he can keep the tabs to redeem prizes? heheh | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 109 Registered: 10-2003 |
His yopeish other motives: his own comfort? yope financial gain? trying to avoid something/someone? trying to get lucky? none of these Does he help women with tasks? No Maybe he pretends to help them open their drink cans, so that he can keep the tabs to redeem prizes? heheh Nothing like this! That's ghastly! | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 285 Registered: 3-2006 |
If he were to do the same thing to another man, and assuming the man accepts his gentlemanly offer, would he still achieve his motives? Where does he display his "chivalry"--at a restaurant/bar/pub? on the train, bus etc? at home? in the park, beach, or some other outdoor location? at work? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 291 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is this some traditional act of chivalry, such as Kissing of the lady's hand? Laying down of coat over puddles? Or a more modern one such as letting the lady pay for drinks or a meal? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 292 Registered: 7-2006 |
(it's occurred to me this question may be difficult to answer. If so, please just answer yes or no to each example as appropriate) | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 111 Registered: 10-2003 |
Jumpingjack If he were to do the same thing to another man, and assuming the man accepts his gentlemanly offer, would he still achieve his motives? Yes Where does he display his "chivalry"--at a restaurant/bar/pub? on the train, bus etc? at home? in the park, beach, or some other outdoor location? an outdoor location, but a park or beach probably wouldn't work at work? Is this some traditional act of chivalry, such as Kissing of the lady's hand? Laying down of coat over puddles? I would certainly say it was traditional Or a more modern one such as letting the lady pay for drinks or a meal? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 356 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does he offer people his handkerchief? Is it a spoken courtesy, eg a particular phrase that he uses? Or is it a specific action that one could see him doing from a distance? Are any objects necessary for him to perform this gallant gesture? Could someone perform this gesture remotely or by proxy, eg online? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 112 Registered: 10-2003 |
Woodworm Does he offer people his handkerchief? No Is it a spoken courtesy, eg a particular phrase that he uses? No Or is it a specific action that one could see him doing from a distance? Yes Are any objects necessary for him to perform this gallant gesture? No Could someone perform this gesture remotely or by proxy, eg online? No | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 296 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does he offer to walk women home? protect them in any way? help them climb up something? take off his hat? If no one else was present to see him do it, would he still achieve his aims? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 114 Registered: 10-2003 |
Does he offer to walk women home? protect them in any way? this one, but none of the others help them climb up something? take off his hat? If no one else was present to see him do it, would he still achieve his aims? YES! | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 300 Registered: 3-2006 |
Protect them from: other men? other women? criminals? animals? insects? the heat? the cold? discomfort? embarrassment? being hit by a car? falling? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 119 Registered: 10-2003 |
Protect them from: other men? other women? criminals? animals? insects? the heat? the cold? discomfort? Mostly this embarrassment? and partly this being hit by a car? and a yope here falling? but no to the others | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 307 Registered: 3-2006 |
are cars involved? taxis? trains? buses? trucks? some other vehicle? Does he prevent them from getting themselves trapped in the doors? prevent their clothes from getting stuck in the doors? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 121 Registered: 10-2003 |
are cars involved? taxis? trains? buses? trucks? some other vehicle? any of these vehicles could be involved except for the train Does he prevent them from getting themselves trapped in the doors? prevent their clothes from getting stuck in the doors? none of these | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 308 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are they in the vehicle? Outside it? Walking on the road? Are they on the pavement? Does he walk on the outside, nearer to the road? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 123 Registered: 10-2003 |
Are they in the vehicle? Outside it? Walking on the road? Are they on the pavement? Does he walk on the outside, nearer to the road? Indeed, he is walking on the outside of the pavement closest to the road. This isn't quite enough to make him appear chivalrous yet, and you still need to find his yopish alterior motive. Good work tho'! | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 315 Registered: 3-2006 |
Not enough to appear chivalrous? Hmm...is it raining? does he protect her from the splashing when the cars go by? and maybe he actually enjoys getting wet? hehe Would it be obvious to the woman what his yopeish ulterior motive is? Would some other person walking on the outside of the pavement be able to get what this guy is achieving? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 298 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does he use his coat to wrap around the girl? Does he use this as a cover for touching the girl? Or for robbing the girl? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 124 Registered: 10-2003 |
Jumpingjack Not enough to appear chivalrous? Hmm...is it raining? does he protect her from the splashing when the cars go by? indeed he does and maybe he actually enjoys getting wet? hehe good one, but no! Would it be obvious to the woman what his yopeish ulterior motive is? if it's a woman he knows then yes. If not, then very unlikely Would some other person walking on the outside of the pavement be able to get what this guy is achieving? No Plebeian Does he use his coat to wrap around the girl? Does he use this as a cover for touching the girl? Or for robbing the girl? none of these | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 302 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does his protecting the girl from splashing cars lead to him asking the girl for something in return? Does he ask to go to the girl's house to dry his clothes? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 319 Registered: 3-2006 |
If the woman knows what he's after, would she want to change places with him? Relevant where they are walking to? Perhaps he knows that when he reaches this place all wet, he will be made a fuss of? he will be given new clothes? have a chance to use the shower? Does he like the way he looks dripping wet? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 125 Registered: 10-2003 |
Plebeian Does his protecting the girl from splashing cars lead to him asking the girl for something in return? Does he ask to go to the girl's house to dry his clothes? neither of these Jumpingjack If the woman knows what he's after, would she want to change places with him? no Relevant where they are walking to? no Perhaps he knows that when he reaches this place all wet, he will be made a fuss of? he will be given new clothes? have a chance to use the shower? Does he like the way he looks dripping wet? none of these | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 333 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would he still achieve what he set out to achieve if no vehicles passed by? if he didn't get wet? if he was walking in the same position, but by himself? Is there anything physically different about him that we need to find out? What he is wearing relevant? Does he achieve his yopeish ulterior motive the minute he gets splashed? a few minutes after he gets splashed? an hour after? more than an hour? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 127 Registered: 10-2003 |
Would he still achieve what he set out to achieve if no vehicles passed by? if he didn't get wet? if he was walking in the same position, but by himself? A hearty yes! to all of these Is there anything physically different about him that we need to find out? What he is wearing relevant? neither of these Does he achieve his yopeish ulterior motive the minute he gets splashed? a few minutes after he gets splashed? an hour after? more than an hour? none of these | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 334 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are there lots of dog droppings on the inside of the pavement? Is the ground uneven there? Something along these lines? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 129 Registered: 10-2003 |
Are there lots of dog droppings on the inside of the pavement? Is the ground uneven there? Something along these lines? nothing along these lines, I'm afraid | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 306 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does he gain his 'advantage' from walking along the pavement? close to the road? Does this allow him to be first in line to something? Taxi? Bus? Shop? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 130 Registered: 10-2003 |
Does he gain his 'advantage' from walking along the pavement? close to the road? Yes Does this allow him to be first in line to something? No Taxi? Bus? Shop? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 371 Registered: 3-2006 |
He doesn't have any phobias, does he? (I know someone who always has to walk on the right-hand side for superstitious reasons.) | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 100 Registered: 8-2006 |
W00t! Triple digit number! Anyways, I'm stuck! | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 132 Registered: 10-2003 |
He doesn't have any phobias, does he? (I know someone who always has to walk on the right-hand side for superstitious reasons.) YES! | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 311 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is he afraid of: - buildings? windows? glass? doors? lamp posts? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 342 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are there trees/bushes on the inside of the pavement? Is he afraid something will leap out at him? Perhaps he's had a bad Candid Camera experience? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 133 Registered: 10-2003 |
Plebeian Is he afraid of: - buildings? windows? glass? doors? lamp posts? none of these Jumpingjack Are there trees/bushes on the inside of the pavement? Is he afraid something will leap out at him? Perhaps he's had a bad Candid Camera experience? and none of these | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 326 Registered: 7-2006 |
But he is afraid of something which is present when walking down the street, correct? Is he afraid of traffic? And this is some therapy for his aversion? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 136 Registered: 10-2003 |
But he is afraid of something which is present when walking down the street, correct? correct Is he afraid of traffic? And this is some therapy for his aversion? but not either of these | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 334 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the something of which he is afraid something living? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 351 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is this a common phobia? Is there a possibility that what he is afraid of might actually hurt him? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 138 Registered: 10-2003 |
Plebeian Is the something of which he is afraid something living? yes Is this a common phobia? I would say it was reasonably common but that his case was more severe than usual Is there a possibility that what he is afraid of might actually hurt him? no | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 369 Registered: 3-2006 |
wild animals? insects? spiders? snakes? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 344 Registered: 7-2006 |
Birds? Dogs? Cats? Giraffes? you never know | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 139 Registered: 10-2003 |
Jumpingjack wild animals? insects? spiders? snakes? none of these Plebeian Birds? Dogs? Cats? Giraffes? you never know and none of these. Giraffes are pretty scary when you think about it though | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 348 Registered: 7-2006 |
erm, people? A specific kind of person? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 140 Registered: 10-2003 |
erm, people? indeed, but needs a little exploration A specific kind of person? no, he doesn't play favourites! | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 371 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is he afraid of what some people might do? jump on him? rob him? shock him? Is he afraid of the people that might come from near the inside of the pavement? is he afraid of the people who are whizzing by in their cars/or their motorbikes? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 358 Registered: 7-2006 |
So the man walks on the road-side of the pavement to avoid close contact with people? Is the man scared of crowds? Or bumping into people? Or being mugged? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 144 Registered: 10-2003 |
Plebeian So the man walks on the road-side of the pavement to avoid close contact with people? Is the man scared of crowds? absolutely, and very close to the solution now! | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 361 Registered: 7-2006 |
(That was a really sneaky YES! earlier, if there was no-one else to see him carry out his actions, of course his objectives would be met. Because his objective is to avoid the crowd...) So, if the man is walking with a lady, he can offer to walk kerb-side of her, ostensibly to protect her from splashing of passing cars, but in fact he's using her as a kind of human shield from the crowds he hates? | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 145 Registered: 10-2003 |
(That was a really sneaky YES! earlier, if there was no-one else to see him carry out his actions, of course his objectives would be met. Because his objective is to avoid the crowd...) very sneaky indeed of me, I admit! So, if the man is walking with a lady, he can offer to walk kerb-side of her, ostensibly to protect her from splashing of passing cars, but in fact he's using her as a kind of human shield from the crowds he hates? exactly right ***SPOILER*** I have a dread of crowds, and always choose to walk on the outside of the pavement - if I walk on the inside of a busy road I'm in a constant state of panic with the human traffic going up and down the road, and in and out of the shops. No-one that doesn't know me would know why I was doing this, or even pay it much attention. If I'm out with a female friend however, and it's been raining, I have on occasions been splashed by a passing vehicle. When this happens a lot of people point and laugh, but last month a girl on the other side of the road said to her boyfriend "You wouldn't do that for me!". If only they knew... Well done and thanks to everyone who joined in. |
