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Cake (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 9:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She felt guilty for her cruelty, but also a certain degree of satisfaction.
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

[No idea why nobody's biting at this one.]

Let's kick off with the usual:

She = human? adult? female?
Did her "cruelty" constitute a criminal offence?
Was the cruelty a single act or an ongoing pattern of behaviour? May I call her Dorothy?
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 7:38 pm:

[No idea why nobody's biting at this one.] It is rather unusual.

Let's kick off with the usual:

She = human? adult? female? Yes to all.
Did her "cruelty" constitute a criminal offence? No.
Was the cruelty a single act or an ongoing pattern of behaviour? More like a pattern.May I call her Dorothy? Certainly, a lovely name.
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she cruel to another person? To a number of other people? To a specific group of people? To an animal? To a group of animals? Did she know she was being cruel? Would you, as an impartial observer, think that Dorothy was being cruel?
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:36 pm:

Is she cruel to another person? To a number of other people? To a specific group of people? This.
To an animal? No.To a group of animals?
Did she know she was being cruel?Yes.
Would you, as an impartial observer, think that Dorothy was being cruel? FA.
Theredlady (Theredlady)
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is occupation relevant?
If so...Well, I'll steal this convenient little list from another puzzle...is the job:
artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Other ?
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 4:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:56 pm:

Is occupation relevant? Not in the least, I'm afraid. But nice list.
If so...Well, I'll steal this convenient little list from another puzzle...is the job:
artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Other ?
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 5:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she cruel to her relatives? her friends? people she knows?
Are these people aware of what Dorothy is doing? (She is doing something, isn't she?) Do these people feel the cruelty?
Is Dorothy in proximity of the people? Does the place of this story matter?
Is the cruelty physical? or rather mental?
Is it on her own free will to be cruel or is she forced to? by someone? is the cruelty necessary for some reason?
Concerning Dorothys satisfaction, does she get recompense for the cruelty? Is it personal satisfaction?
Theredlady (Theredlady)
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Dorothy satisfied because of her actions?
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 1:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 5:13 pm:

Is she cruel to her relatives? No. her friends? Yesish. people she knows? Yesish.
Are these people aware of what Dorothy is doing? No. (She is doing something, isn't she? Yes.) Do these people feel the cruelty? Probably not.
Is Dorothy in proximity of the people? No.Does the place of this story matter? Yesish, hard to answer.
Is the cruelty physical? or rather mental? This.
Is it on her own free will to be cruel or is she forced to? by someone? is the cruelty necessary for some reason? Free will, not necessary.
Concerning Dorothys satisfaction, does she get recompense for the cruelty? Rephrase? Is it personal satisfaction? Not sure what you mean.


Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:40 pm:


Was Dorothy satisfied because of her actions? Yes.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Dorothy communicating with the people? by telephone?
Do we have to find out more about the people? profession? composition of the group?
Is Dorothys satisfaction mental? physical?
Is Dorothy recompensed for being cruel?
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:09 pm:


Is Dorothy communicating with the people? Yes. by telephone? No.
Do we have to find out more about the people? It would greatly help. profession? No. composition of the group? Yes.
Is Dorothys satisfaction mental? This.physical?
Is Dorothy recompensed for being cruel? By a third party? No.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 7:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Dorothy communicating with the people:
via a third person? by mail/internet? letter?
using her voice? her hands?
Is this communications in the direction:
Dorothy->people? people->Dorothy? both?
Do the people know of Dorothy?

Do the people know each other?
If yes: Are they members of a family? friends?
If no: Do they have something in common apart from being in contact with Dorothy?
Is the number relevant? If yes {insert list}
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 1:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 7:22 pm:

Is Dorothy communicating with the people:
via a third person? by mail/internet? This.letter?
using her voice? her hands?
Is this communications in the direction:
Dorothy->people? people->Dorothy? both? Both.
Do the people know of Dorothy? Yes.

Do the people know each other? Most, yes.
If yes: Are they members of a family? friends? This, mostly.
If no: Do they have something in common apart from being in contact with Dorothy? Yes.
Is the number relevant? If yes {insert list} About thirty, give or take.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Dorothy communicating: by mail? by internet? both?
Is the communication based on: text? images? sound? video?
Do Dorothy or the people offer any sort of service?
Are these thirty people: together in a room? each one in front of a computer? a combination of this?
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 3:11 pm:

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Is Dorothy communicating: by mail? by internet? This. both?
Is the communication based on: text? This.images? sound? video?
Do Dorothy or the people offer any sort of service? Sort of.
Are these thirty people: together in a room? No. each one in front of a computer? Yes. a combination of this?
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has Dorothy got a web page? a discussion forum?
The purpose of the communication: entertainment? news? consulting? or has it to do something with sex (well internet is not free from it, is it...)?
Are fees relevant?
Are the people communicating between each other?
Does Dorothy diffuse false information?
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 1:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 10:42 pm:

Has Dorothy got a web page? No. a discussion forum? She's on one, yes.
The purpose of the communication: entertainment? This. news? consulting? or has it to do something with sex (well internet is not free from it, is it...)? True.
Are fees relevant? No.
Are the people communicating between each other? Yes.
Does Dorothy diffuse false information? Noish.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 7:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So Dorothy is chatting on the web?
She is one of thirty people using a discussion forum? She has no particular role (administrator or anything)?
Is the theme of the discussion forum relevant?
Does Dorothy hold back information?
Is there something about her identity (she pretends to be someone else)?
I assume that the people do not know Dorothy personally. Correct? Or would they know her without associating her with her username?
If they knew what Dorothy knows they would understand why she feels guilty? would they possibly feel betrayed/tricked?
Alan_s (Alan_s)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the forum this one?

Are you Dorothy?
Solane (Solane)
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 3:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the cruelty posting laterals? Tortureing us poor puzzlers?
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Building on this, does Dorothy let the people wait for answers (one or two weeks is still OK to me)?
Would she never come back to the forum to solve the puzzle (if the answer was true I would never get it...)?
Does she work with several identities?
Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 2:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 3:37 am:

Is the cruelty posting laterals? Tortureing us poor puzzlers? That's the one.

**************SPOILER
I am Dorothy. I am being rather cruel in posting this paradoxical puzzle, but feel satisfied that it took you this long to solve my first little puzzle.
And the long time taken to spoil was not intended cruelty, but due to moving, getting a new computer, and getting that computer to stop crashing. Sorry!
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 7:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No problem for the delay, there was Alan_s to help out. Nice cruel puzzle.

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