| Author | Message | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 143 Registered: 8-2006 |
Something in the first act went wrong. This made the second act pretty difficult. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 123 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is this a play in the normal sense? At a theatre? | ||
| Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
New member Username: Comforteagle Post Number: 152 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the thing that went wrong dealing with scenery? Actors? The audience? The stage? Lighting? Was it hard for actors to get on stage for the second act? Hard to say their lines? Hard to move about onstage? | ||
| Izgany (Izgany)
New member Username: Izgany Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2006 |
The second act was difficult physically, as in, physically impossible? Or emotionally? Difficult, but not impossible? Did the second act still go on, or is this irrelevent? Was there an audience, and are they important? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 145 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hello Martinfg! Is this a play in the normal sense? no At a theatre? no Hello Comforteagle! Was the thing that went wrong dealing with scenery? Actors? yesish The audience? The stage? Lighting? Was it hard for actors to get on stage for the second act? Hard to say their lines? Hard to move about onstage? yesish No to the rest. Yesish because it was no play in the normal sense. Welcome Izgany! The second act was difficult physically, as in, physically impossible? Or emotionally? no Difficult, but not impossible? It was physically difficult but not impossible. Did the second act still go on, or is this irrelevent? It did go on and this is relevant. Was there an audience, and are they important? There was a kind of audience but they were not important. | ||
| Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
New member Username: Comforteagle Post Number: 156 Registered: 7-2006 |
I realized after posting that all my questions assumed it was a normal play. Is this just everyday life being observed? Is someone giving a presentation? Showing off/ being over-dramatic? Are the "acts" two similar events? Do they involve a person? Two people? More? If so, are the same people involved in both? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 142 Registered: 8-2005 |
The act was it any kind of performance? or act in the sense of a deed carried out? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 147 Registered: 8-2006 |
Comforteagle: Is this just everyday life being observed? Yes Is someone giving a presentation? Noish Showing off/ being over-dramatic? No Are the "acts" two similar events? No Do they involve a person? Two people? More? If so, are the same people involved in both? First act: Three relevant persons. Second act: One person from the first act and two other persons of minor relevance forming the kind of audience. Martinfg: The act was it any kind of performance? The second act could be considered as a performance or act in the sense of a deed carried out? Yes, the word act stands here for deed/action/process/activity. | ||
| Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
New member Username: Comforteagle Post Number: 158 Registered: 7-2006 |
Would he second act have been easier if the two other people were still involved? Were they not involved because of something that happened in the first act? Was anyone killed? Did the two acts happen in the same place? In the same day? Same month? Same year? | ||
| Izgany (Izgany)
New member Username: Izgany Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2006 |
Thanks! The second act being a performance, was it a pretense? Was the second act put up to hide the truth? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 660 Registered: 7-2006 |
So the statement could have read "Something in the first activity went wrong. This made the second activity pretty difficult"? Were all three actively involved in the first act? | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 144 Registered: 9-2006 |
In the first act, did the two "audience-in-spe" instruct the third person to do something? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 151 Registered: 8-2006 |
Comforteagle: Would he second act have been easier if the two other people were still involved? no Were they not involved because of something that happened in the first act? No, they were just not envolved in the second act. Was anyone killed? no Did the two acts happen in the same place? no In the same day? Same month? Same year? yes to all of those Izgany: The second act being a performance, was it a pretense? Was the second act put up to hide the truth? no to both Plebeian: So the statement could have read "Something in the first activity went wrong. This made the second activity pretty difficult"? correct I chose act only to pretend that this puzzle was about theatre... but as you found out at once it is not. Were all three actively involved in the first act? The two persons appearing only in the first act were active, the third person rather passive. Judgedeadd: In the first act, did the two "audience-in-spe" instruct the third person to do something? FA, there was no audience-in-spe in the first act. | ||
| Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
New member Username: Comforteagle Post Number: 163 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the person in both acts adult? Male? (I'll just call her/him Sam for now, if that's alright) In the first act: Was Sam trying to learn something? Was Sam planning the second act before the first happened? Was Sam planning the second actafter the first act happened? Did Sam know the other two? Did the other two know each other? Is anyone involved in some criminal activity? Anyone trying to gain something? If so, money? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 152 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is the person in both acts adult? yes Male? yes (I'll just call her/him Sam for now, if that's alright OK that's nice and short.) In the first act: Was Sam trying to learn something? no Was Sam planning the second act before the first happened? yes Was Sam planning the second actafter the first act happened? Another yes, the planning was confirmed. Did Sam know the other two? no Did the other two know each other? yes Is anyone involved in some criminal activity? no Anyone trying to gain something? Yesish for the two who knew each other. If so, money? no | ||
| Izgany (Izgany)
New member Username: Izgany Post Number: 29 Registered: 10-2006 |
If this happened to us, or to someone close to us, will we find it unusual? Does it happen often? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 154 Registered: 8-2006 |
If this happened to us, or to someone close to us, will we find it unusual? yes Does it happen often? Suppose nothing had gone wrong, the first act would happen regularly and the second act very often. But the given situation is unusual. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 758 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does the second action usually automatically follow the first? Is the first act some kind of entertainment? Or some work-related activity (excluding entertainment industry)? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 177 Registered: 8-2006 |
Does the second action usually automatically follow the first? yes Is the first act some kind of entertainment? no Or some work-related activity (excluding entertainment industry)? no It is a particular activity related neither to work nor to entertainment, so explore. | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 184 Registered: 8-2006 |
Or some work-related activity (excluding entertainment industry)? I have to complement my previous answer: For Sam the first act had nothing to do with work or entertainment. However, the other two guys envolved in the first act did work. So it might help to find out their occupation. | ||
| Indyslf (Indyslf)
New member Username: Indyslf Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 |
Were the two active men in the first act sleeping? | ||
| Indyslf (Indyslf)
New member Username: Indyslf Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2006 |
Was Sam sleeping? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 198 Registered: 8-2006 |
Welcome Indyslf! Were the two active men in the first act sleeping? Was Sam sleeping? No, neither of them was sleeping. With occupation I meant rather a profession. | ||
| Brid (Brid)
New member Username: Brid Post Number: 504 Registered: 11-2003 |
Was the profession in question one where you normally need a longish education? in university or the like? or one that can be learned in a year or so? or one you go on learning all the time (like many handicrafts)? or one that can be started just like that? Could this have happened if everyone involved were female? Some of them? If everyone were a child? Some of them? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 222 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was the profession in question one where you normally need a longish education? in university or the like? I actually don't know the exact grade of the two men. I can only hazard the guess that one of them went to university and the other one was in his training period. Assuming this the puzzle will work fine. or one that can be learned in a year or so? No, I guess that in most countries it can't. or one you go on learning all the time (like many handicrafts)? this too in a way or one that can be started just like that? no Could this have happened if everyone involved were female? Some of them? yes to these If everyone were a child? Some of them? No, only the persons watching in the second act could have been children. | ||
| Fabcunha (Fabcunha)
New member Username: Fabcunha Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 |
Is there sex envolved? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 564 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is the profession medical? legal? technology related? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 565 Registered: 6-2006 |
ah, ok, here's the list I was looking for: Is the profession: artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Sports? Entertainment? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 224 Registered: 8-2006 |
Welcome Fabcunha! Is there sex envolved? no Beccaann: Is the profession medical? yes legal? no technology related? yesish No need for the list this time... | ||
| Hipsterzbeware (Hipsterzbeware)
New member Username: Hipsterzbeware Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2006 |
Botched operation? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 225 Registered: 8-2006 |
Welcome Hipsterzbeware! Botched operation? Yes, in a way but define operation. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 418 Registered: 8-2006 |
Surgery? Liver/heart replacement? Babies relevant? Did this happen in a hospital?btw, beccaan, I sooo love that list  | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 243 Registered: 8-2006 |
Surgery? Liver/heart replacement? Babies relevant? None of these. Did this happen in a hospital? It didn't but the puzzle will work fine if you suppose so. btw, beccaan, I sooo love that list:-) I love it too and I even contributed a little bit. | ||
| Brid (Brid)
New member Username: Brid Post Number: 512 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is this so-called operation something only a surgeon can do? something only a physician can do? something a nurse might do? something anybody might do (like removing a splinter or dressing a wound)? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 265 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is this so-called operation something only a surgeon can do? no something only a physician can do? noish something a nurse might do? yesish something anybody might do (like removing a splinter or dressing a wound)? no I think that in most countries a nurse can do this. | ||
| Indyslf (Indyslf)
New member Username: Indyslf Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2006 |
Does the operation/procedure involve childbirth? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 269 Registered: 8-2006 |
Does the operation/procedure involve childbirth? no | ||
| Indyslf (Indyslf)
New member Username: Indyslf Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2006 |
I know this isn't an actual play, but if it were, would it require props? | ||
| Hipsterzbeware (Hipsterzbeware)
New member Username: Hipsterzbeware Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2006 |
Vaccination? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 270 Registered: 8-2006 |
Indyslf: I know this isn't an actual play, but if it were, would it require props? Yes, there are objects involved. Hipsterzbeware: Vaccination? No, but not too far. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 488 Registered: 8-2006 |
this has been unactive:If the procedure had been correct, would it have been easier? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 271 Registered: 8-2006 |
this has been unactive:If the procedure had been correct, would it have been easier? Yes, if there had been no error in the first act the second act would have run without any problem. | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 274 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hi there, I would like this one to be finished this year so here is an abstract: This puzzle has nothing to do with theatre, it describes a process in everyday life envolving two steps the second one following the first. In the first act a doctor and a nurse performed a kind of operation on Sam. As this did not proceed as desired Sam had physically problems to perform the second act. Find out: What kind of operation was performed (it is something done only on adults)? What was Sam trying to do in the second act (everyone of you does it regularly)? What were his physical problems? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 514 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thanks for the hint: Let's see, removal of appendix? Physical problems relating to internal damage? His legs, arms, hip? the stomach and intestines? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 280 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thanks for the hint: Let's see, removal of appendix? no Physical problems relating to internal damage? His legs, arms this, hip? the stomach and intestines? no to the rest | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 517 Registered: 8-2006 |
Amputation? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 283 Registered: 8-2006 |
Amputation? No | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 522 Registered: 8-2006 |
Putting a bone back it its socket? Specific part of the arm, elbow,forearm, wrist? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 287 Registered: 8-2006 |
Putting a bone back it its socket? no Specific part of the arm, elbow this one was affected, forearm, wrist? no to the rest | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 525 Registered: 8-2006 |
Ok, the elbow had cancer? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 288 Registered: 8-2006 |
Ok, the elbow had cancer? no | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 527 Registered: 8-2006 |
What other elbow damages are there?? Ligament torn?!? cathelige rubbed away? | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 507 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was Sam donating blood? Did the doctor or nurse miss the vein or make some other blunder? Was Sam in pain after the first act? Did he find it difficult to move/bend his arm? Did he have problems with some everyday task? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 290 Registered: 8-2006 |
Crazypalpig: What other elbow damages are there?? Ligament torn?!? no cathelige rubbed away? I don't know the word 'cathelige' but I guess the answer is no Sunshine: Was Sam donating blood? YES, hooray! Did the doctor or nurse miss the vein or make some other blunder? yes Was Sam in pain after the first act? noish Did he find it difficult to move/bend his arm? yes Did he have problems with some everyday task? yes | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 532 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thank you, sunshine! Did they end up donating bad blood? | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 508 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did Sam have a problem with writing? computer use? driving? eating/drinking? dressing? something relating to work? travel? shopping? leisure activity? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 292 Registered: 8-2006 |
Crazypalpig: Did they end up donating bad blood? Who? But in fact noone did. Sunshine: Did Sam have a problem with writing? computer use? driving? eating/drinking? this dressing? something relating to work? travel? shopping? leisure activity? no or irrelevant to the rest You got the main part of the puzzle. One question remains: Why was it particulary difficult for Sam to eat and drink (compared to someone else donating blood)? Hint: a doctor and a nurse were involved in the first act. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 533 Registered: 8-2006 |
The type o meal relevant? It was difficult because it was his right elbow? | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 509 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did his arm swell? Was he allergic to something? Did he turn out to be a haemophiliac and needed so much bandaging to stop the bleeding he couldn't move the arm? Did he start off with just the nurse? Did she have to call the doctor when something unusual? untoward happened? Was his blood group relevant? Did he faint when he saw the blood and hurt his arm? Was he so scared he asked for a local anaesthetic? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 293 Registered: 8-2006 |
Crazypalpig: The type o meal relevant? no It was difficult because it was his right elbow? yope, explore Sunshine: Did his arm swell? irrelevant Was he allergic to something? no or irrelevant Did he turn out to be a haemophiliac and needed so much bandaging to stop the bleeding he couldn't move the arm? no Did he start off with just the nurse? yes Did she have to call the doctor when something unusual? noish untoward happened? yes (btw it was a male nurse but this is not relevant) Was his blood group relevant? no Did he faint when he saw the blood and hurt his arm? no Was he so scared he asked for a local anaesthetic? no | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 510 Registered: 1-2001 |
If they didn't succeed with one arm, did they try the other also, so Sam was doubly incapacitated? Did they work on the left arm because more people are right handed - but Sam was left handed? Did a needle break in the arm(s)? Did they exert so much pressure trying to bring up the vein, something bad happened? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 294 Registered: 8-2006 |
If they didn't succeed with one arm, did they try the other also, so Sam was doubly incapacitated? yes, this is a -------------- SPOILER -------------- This happened to me (aka Sam) when I gave blood (first act). A (young) hospital nurse tried quite a while to catch a vein in the crook of my left arm without success. Finally, a second hospital nurse (maybe he was a doctor) managed to tap into my right arm. The blood donation went allright but I found myself with both arms bandaged. Afterwards, I was supposed to eat and drink (second act) but this was pretty difficult as I was unable to angle my arms. Thank you, Crazypalpig and Sunshine, for finishing this puzzle! | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 512 Registered: 1-2001 |
Thanks to you, Tobasi, for a good puzzle. These good deeds, like giving blood, often have surprise sides to them! |
