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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They couldn't start without him.

My first setting, I'll try to keep bloopers to a minimum.
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Who are "they"? Humans?
Is "him" a human?
Does it talk about a game of some kind?
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Does it talk about some kind of a job "they" couldn't do without "him"?
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Who are "they"? Humans? yes
Is "him" a human? no
Does it talk about a game of some kind? no
Does it talk about some kind of a job "they" couldn't do without "him"? no
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Is "him" an animal? An object? An alien?
Are "they" male? Adult?
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Is "him" an animal? this one An object? An alien?
Are "they" male? one is Adult?{both are}
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p.s. Early spoylers by email please
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Since you said both are adults, I'll assume there are 2 of them?
The other one is female? Is their relationship relevant?
The animal: mammal? bird? reptile? sea-based?
Is it a pet? Does it belong to both of them? To him? To her?
Were they going to start a task? a meal? a trip?
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Since you said both are adults, I'll assume there are 2 of them? correct. I'll have to watch for giving away more than intended :-)
The other one is female? True but not particularly relevant
Is their relationship relevant? They aren't related as family, but their connection to each other is relevant
The animal: mammal? Yes bird?no reptile? no sea-based? no
Is it a pet? YES Does it belong to both of them? To him? To her? To her
Were they going to start a task? no a meal? no a trip? Yesish
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Is this a dog? A cat?
Are they going to do something with the pet? Tame it? Take it to a vet for: taming, surgery, killing (not sure how killing your pet is called in English)?
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Judgedeadd Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 11:45 am:

Is this a dog? THIS ONE A cat?
Are they going to do something with the pet? Yesish Tame it? no Take it to a vet for: taming, surgery, killing (not sure how killing your pet is called in English)? To the best of my knowlege they aren't taking it to the vet, and the woman certainly isn't after having her dog put down (English phrase). In fact, there isn't a specific relevant destination here
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Are they going around the world?
And they cannot leave their dog at home?
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Judgedeadd Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:42 pm:
Are they going around the world?
And they cannot leave their dog at home?
I'l try to answer without being misleading or giving too much away. They aren't going round the world. They are going somewhere, but the destination isn't relevant. It's true to say they can't leave the dog behind.
In fact to be accurate, she is going somewhere.
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Are they going to die?
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Is the place that they are leaving relevant? their home?
Is the way they are leaving relevant? on foot? by car?
Are they friends? a couple? colleagues?
Is their occupation relevant?
Could they start if they had a different dog?
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Duration of their journey relevant? Will they be coming home in less than a day? week? month? year? more? Do they have luggage on them?
Is George the man? The dog? Someone else? A famous figure? The name of the ship/car/train/plane? Relevant?
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Judgeadd Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 4:23 pm:
Are they going to die? No, despite being a lateral puzzle, no-one dies. This is a true story

Tobasi Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 7:44 pm:

Is the place that they are leaving relevant? not really, but there's an FA here their home? yes, but with same FA
Is the way they are leaving relevant? Yes, same FA on foot? No by car? YES
Are they friends? No a couple? No colleagues? No
Is their occupation relevant? Hers, no. His, YES
Could they start if they had a different dog?Yope. If they changed dogs now, they definitely couldn't start. If there'd been a different dog before this began, this scenario possibly wouldn't have occurred.

Jumpingjack Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 5:49 am:

Duration of their journey relevant? No Will they be coming home in less than a day? week? month? year? more? Not known, but likely to be under a month. Not really relevant. And for a minor hint, there could easily be more than one journey... Do they have luggage on them? No. Not relevant
Is George the man? The dog? George is the dog Someone else? A famous figure? The name of the ship/car/train/plane? Relevant? No, only that it's a true story and George is actually the name of the dog in question
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Is the FA that they are both leaving together? Only the girl is leaving? Has the man been employed to be her driver?
Is George ill? Physically disabled? something along these lines? Is this journey supposed to make him better?
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Jumpingjack Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 10:33 am:

Is the FA that they are both leaving together? YES Only the girl is leaving? Yes Has the man been employed to be her driver? YOPE. Employed yes, driver no
Is George ill? No Physically disabled? Nosomething along these lines? No Is this journey supposed to make him better? No
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Does she live in a caravan/mobile home?
Does George do some trick? Are they performers of some kind?
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0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 11:12 am:

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Does she live in a caravan/mobile home? No
Does George do some trick? No, but explore Are they performers of some kind? No
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So, she is leaving? George has to come with her? The other person is not leaving with her?

She can't leave George behind because it would be bad for her? because it would be bad for George? because it would be bad for the other person? because it would be bad for someone else?

Can George open doors?
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Is George supposed to find something by its smell? Is he a sniffer dog? Is she a policeman?
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0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:14 pm:

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So, she is leaving? Yes George has to come with her? yes - or she's not going :-) The other person is not leaving with her? correct

She can't leave George behind because it would be bad for her? not bad - impossible because it would be bad for George? no - george is blissfully unaware of his part in this because it would be bad for the other person? No because it would be bad for someone else? No

Can George open doors? Not known, not relevant

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Is George supposed to find something by its smell? No Is he a sniffer dog? No, a family pet Is she a policeman? Not known, not relevant
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Is she physically connected to George and the two can't be separated? Are there manacles or something like that? Is George a guard dog?
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Is George a gift for someone?
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George is different from other dogs, correct? is it a physical difference? does he have any special abilities? does he have connections?
Will she be driving? will George be sitting in the front? the back? relevant?
Where she is going is not relevant, so would she achieve her aims if she drove all day for a few months aimlessly, stopping at hotels along the way?
Will she gain anything material from this journey? Does she need to show George to someone? Do we only have to find out the special characteristic of George, or is there something about her we need to know as well?
Man--footman? butler? dog-trainer? something to do with her car? with her dog? with her house? with her job? with herself?
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0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:12 pm:

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Is she physically connected to George and the two can't be separated? No Are there manacles or something like that? No Is George a guard dog? No, family pet

Judgeadd Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:12 pm:

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Is George a gift for someone? No

Jumpingjack Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:19 pm:

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George is different from other dogs, correct? Not different, this could have been almost any dog. It's the circumstances that make the scenario is it a physical difference? So no does he have any special abilities? And no does he have connections? ?? No
Will she be driving? Yes will George be sitting in the front? YES the back? relevant? YES!
Where she is going is not relevant, so would she achieve her aims if she drove all day for a few months aimlessly, stopping at hotels along the way? Yes, I imagine
Will she gain anything material from this journey? No, or not relevant Does she need to show George to someone? No Do we only have to find out the special characteristic of George, or is there something about her we need to know as well? Tricky to answer. I wouldn't call it a characteristic of George, he seems a reasonably normal dog, and most other dogs could easily be in this scenario. And she's nothing other than the dog's owner. But some information prior to the puzzle is to be discovered
Man--footman? No butler? No dog-trainer? No something to do with her car? YOPE - explore with her dog? No with her house? No with her job? No with herself? Not really
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Is the physical distance between her and George relevant? If the distance between her and George would be the same if George sat on the back seat, could he sit there? Is there a back seat at all? Is it relevant that she can see George all the time?

Is she acting according to someone's wish? last will? Did somebody promise something?
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Is the window down? relevant? Is there anything about the car that we need to find out? Is there a mini steering wheel, GPS etc? Is George sitting on anything relevant? Is he hiding something for her?
Is the man going to be in the car at all? Is his employment a long-term thing, or just for this occasion?
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0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 3:21 pm:

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Is the physical distance between her and George relevant? Yesish If the distance between her and George would be the same if George sat on the back seat, could he sit there? As I understand it, it must be the front seat Is there a back seat at all? Not known, but see above Is it relevant that she can see George all the time? No

Is she acting according to someone's wish? Not wish, no last will? No Did somebody promise something? No

Jumpingjack Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 3:27 pm:

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Is the window down? Irr relevant? Is there anything about the car that we need to find out? YES Is there a mini steering wheel, GPS etc? None of these Is George sitting on anything relevant? No Is he hiding something for her? No
Is the man going to be in the car at all? Prior to the moment of the puzzle statement, yes Is his employment a long-term thing, or just for this occasion? For this occasion

Good line of questions both!
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Does a car have a special seat for dogs?
Does George have to test a new, special feature to be installed in cars?
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Does a car have a special seat for dogs? No
Does George have to test a new, special feature to be installed in cars? No
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Did someone force her to act like this? Did some authority impose it on her to act like this?

Does George carry some kind of device? GPS device or similar?

Is anything unusual installed in this car? Is anything taken out of the car?

I hope I don't ask about things in yesterday's newspaper here:
Is her occupation relevant? Did she commit a crime?
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0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 6:23 pm:

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Did someone force her to act like this? No Did some authority impose it on her to act like this? No

Does George carry some kind of device? YOPE GPS device or similar? {But no}

Is anything unusual installed in this car? Not unusual in any modern car Is anything taken out of the car? No, but worth exploring

I hope I don't ask about things in yesterday's newspaper here: hmm... spoylers by email please
Is her occupation relevant? No Did she commit a crime? No
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Is there anything in George's collar? something clipped onto his ear? something imprinted on him? something in him?
Does the man repair the car in any way? Does he test something? Install a device?
Is the radio relevant? air-conditioning? gearstick? dashboard? speakers? glove compartment?
Not someone's wish, so...someone's need? Or is she doing something that someone will not like? Does she have benevolent intentions? malevolent ones?
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Jumpingjack Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 12:16 pm:

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Is there anything in George's collar? No something clipped onto his ear? No something imprinted on him? No something in him? YES!
Does the man repair the car in any way? This is how you'd put it, though he doesn't actually do anything Does he test something? No Install a device? No
Is the radio relevant? No air-conditioning? No gearstick? No dashboard? No with a small -ish speakers? No glove compartment? No
Not someone's wish, so...someone's need? No Or is she doing something that someone will not like? No Does she have benevolent intentions? malevolent ones? neutral
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Are they going to test something?
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Judgedeadd Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 12:46 pm:

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Are they going to test something? No
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Is the dog microchipped?
Is crime of any kind involved?
Is she trying to escape from something?
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Hi Beccaann :-)

Is the dog microchipped? That's No, but with an -ISH
Is crime of any kind involved? No
Is she trying to escape from something? No, just get here & there in her car
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Did the dog swallow something?
Hey! Did he swallow a electronic key for the car, that is used to start up the car? And they need to touch the car devices with his belly?
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Did the dog swallow something? YES!
Hey! Did he swallow a electronic key for the car, that is used to start up the car? And they need to touch the car devices with his belly?

Reckon that's close enough for a

*** SPOILER ***

The story concerns a woman who has a car, and a dog (George). The battery in the car key needs changing, but when she changes it she finds the car won't start. Along comes the AA man (for it is he), and after a brief inspection of the key asks if 'a bit of plastic fell out' when changing the battery. The answer to this is yes, but that the dog then ate it! The man deduces that the dog has swallowed the security code chip without which they can't start the car. Not wishing to slice open the dog to retrieve the chip, or wait for nature to take it's course, the AA man applies a little lateral thinking and sits the dog in the front passenger seat, whereupon the car starts fine!

0815 asked about sitting George in the back, which may have worked, but the story specifically mentioned the front seat.

This is from a British news story only last week, which I was aware meant that a number of our group may immediately cotton on to, but the story was too good to miss!

Hope you enjoyed, I'll find another ASAP.

:-)
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I never read the news about it, but I once read a very similar story, about a little boy who swallowed the chip.
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Must be a more common ocurrence than I imagined! I wouldn't like to be the mechanic responsible for retrieving th chip...

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