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Beroean (Beroean)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I stopped at the red light. The road ahead was clear in both lanes. There were no road works or anything obstructing two-way traffic. Why the traffic lights?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The red light was traffic light, right?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they regular traffic lights or temporary ones? Were they pedestrian lights and the pedestrians had long since gone by the time your car reached the crossing? You were driving, I presume?
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Judgedeadd
The red light was traffic light, right? Yes

Lynne
Were they regular traffic lights or temporary ones? Regular
Were they pedestrian lights and the pedestrians had long since gone by the time your car reached the crossing? No, they weren't pedestrian lights
You were driving, I presume? Yes
Bentarm (Bentarm)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 2:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you at a crossroads? (that would seem to be the most obvious answer)
Did the traffic lights change regularly on a time cycle? Or were they triggered by some external event?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they there to allow for traffic to pull out of a depot and only triggered by the depot traffic itself (which is infrequent enough not to need a regular green light for them). I've seen that for a Postal Sorting Office place.
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Are you surprised because of the red light, or the traffic light themselves?
Beroean (Beroean)
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John
Were you at a crossroads? No
(that would seem to be the most obvious answer) (true)

Lynne
Did the traffic lights change regularly on a time cycle? Yes
Or were they triggered by some external event? No
0815 (0815)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 5:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were there any side roads at all?
Was there a railroad crossing?
Was there a bridge ahead?
Was there a tunnel ahead?
Were you in a city?
Beroean (Beroean)
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Were there any side roads at all? No
Was there a railroad crossing? No
Was there a bridge ahead? Yes
Was there a tunnel ahead? Yope
Were you in a city? Yesish
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You missed my question...
Beroean (Beroean)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 6:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You missed my question...
Przepraszam Jacek

Are you surprised because of the red light, or the traffic light themselves? The traffic lights themselves
Beroean (Beroean)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And sorry Lynne, I got confused with yours and John's questions earlier

Were they there to allow for traffic to pull out of a depot and only triggered by the depot traffic itself (which is infrequent enough not to need a regular green light for them). I've seen that for a Postal Sorting Office place.
No to all but good thinking!
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 6:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the bridge over water or something else? Any passing ships?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 6:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the traffic light located at an entry access ramp to a major highway? I have seen those before, and they supposedly work to regulate the freeway traffic, but all i've seen is that they hold up traffic trying to enter, then make the entering vehicles start from a dead stop and have to enter full-speed traffic... not a pretty picture. But i digress...
Beroean (Beroean)
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Lynne
Was the bridge over water or something else? something else
Any passing ships?
No but another nice idea

Lewis
was the traffic light located at an entry access ramp to a major highway? No but another really good idea

I have seen those before, and they supposedly work to regulate the freeway traffic, but all i've seen is that they hold up traffic trying to enter, then make the entering vehicles start from a dead stop and have to enter full-speed traffic... not a pretty picture. But i digress... I know, this sort of thing is frustrating isn't it!
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 8:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the bridge over the road? or was it part of the road, so that you could drive across it?
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Was the bridge over the road? No
or was it part of the road, so that you could drive across it? Yes
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there a weight restriction on the bridge so that only one lane of traffic was permitted at a time?
Beroean (Beroean)
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Was there a weight restriction on the bridge so that only one lane of traffic was permitted at a time?
Yes- exactly - well done Lynne!

Puzzle Statement

I stopped at the red light. The road ahead was clear in both lanes. There were no road works or anything obstructing two-way traffic. Why the traffic lights?


**************************** SPOILER ***************************

A sign by the traffic lights stated:
"Weak bridge – single way traffic required"
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm - I would still be wary of a weak bridge - I mean, how do they know that three juggernauts in a row is still safe? But two rows of cyclists would be forbidden? After all, it wouldn't have been built weak, so what weakened it? And how do they measure it's strength? You don't know what will break it until it's broken - and who wants to be in the car that breaks the bridge's back? :-)
Beroean (Beroean)
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Lynne - very pertinent quetions!

I have been crossing this (railway) bridge for years and it never occurred to me to wonder why the lights should be present. It was only today that I actually noticed the "weak bridge" sign. If I ever happen to be in the queue with a few juggernauts, I think I shall do a u turn and watch from a distance! :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, perhaps it was only ever built to withstand a limited weight but now that so many people drive around in armoured tanks I mean people carriers, there's a lot more weight than when it was all Minis and bubble cars :-)
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Using the word weak strikes me as odd
Beroean (Beroean)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 11:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm.. I've just googled but cannot find anything referring to the bridge in question which is located here at the southern end of Norn Hill at the junction with Gresley Road and Basing View.

weak bridge

However a search of the internet seems to reveal that "weak bridge" is a common term, albeit a rather disturbing oone! There are a number of references about single lane traffic on weak bridges along with traffic lights - fascinating subject :-)
Beroean (Beroean)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 11:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How about this!

Weak Bridge!
Beroean (Beroean)
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And finally....

Take a look at the last sign at the very bottom of the page
Brid (Brid)
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 8:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Looking at the roadsigns, I found one called "water foul". I would have thought it meant water fowl. But we don't have those signs in Sweden - so either the water is clean or the birdies have to watch out for themselves
Beroean (Beroean)
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Good observation Brid!

Now that could have been a neat puzzle!

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