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Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 306 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006  11:44 am:  
Ahem. 
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 55 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006  1:03 pm:  
Damn? Hell? Hellish? Mephistopheles? The evil one? Mara? Demon? Trout? Jesus? 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 308 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006  1:55 pm:  
Damn? Da Hell? He Hellish? Hellish Mephistopheles? Mephistophelesmephi The evil one? Theevilonetheevilonetheevilonet Mara? Marama Demon? Demond Trout? Trouttr Jesus? Jesusj 
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 62 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006  2:12 pm:  
Eh. The rule could be that answers should consist of the n first letters of the infinite letter sequence (Q')*, where n is an arbitrary natural number, and Q' is the question but with all blanks removed, and the symbol * is defined by the fact that X* (where X is any arbitrary string of letters) stands for the infinite string that is constructed by repeating X infinitely many times. But of course this possibility is only a red herring... 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 311 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006  7:16 pm:  
Eh. The rule could be that answers should consist of the n first letters of the infinite letter sequence (Q')*, where n is an arbitrary natural number, and Q' is the question but with all blanks removed, and the symbol * is defined by the fact that X* (where X is any arbitrary string of letters) stands for the infinite string that is constructed by repeating X infinitely many times. But of course this possibility is only a red herring... Uh, I think you're right. But you need to determine what is n 
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 67 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006  8:53 pm:  
S? So? So ? So n? So n ? So n i? So n is? So n is ? So n is c? So n is ca? So n is cal? So n is calc? So n is calcu? So n is calcul? So n is calcula? So n is calculat? So n is calculate? So n is calculated? So n is calculated ? So n is calculated s? So n is calculated so? So n is calculated som? So n is calculated some? So n is calculated someh? So n is calculated someho? So n is calculated somehow? oksoniscalculatedinsomeway? aaaa? bbbb? cccc? dddd? eeee? ffff? gggg? hhhh? 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 314 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006  8:55 am:  
S? CA So? So So ? So So n? So So n ? So So n i? Soniso So n is? Soniss So n is ? Soniss So n is c? Sonisc So n is ca? Soniscasonisc So n is cal? Soniscalsonis So n is calc? Soniscalcsoni So n is calcu? Soniscalcusoniscalcuson So n is calcul? Soniscalculsoniscalculs So n is calcula? Soniscalculasoniscalculasoniscalcul So n is calculat? Soniscalculatsoniscalculatsoniscalc So n is calculate? Soniscalculatesoniscalculatesoniscalculatesonisca So n is calculated? Soniscalculatedsoniscalculatedsoniscalculatedsoni So n is calculated ? Soniscalculatedsoniscalculatedsoniscalculatedsoni aaaa? aaaaaaaaaa bbbb? CA cccc? CA dddd? CA eeee? eeeeeeeeee ffff? CA gggg? CA hhhh? CA The skipped questions will be answered later 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 316 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006  9:17 am:  
So n is calculated s? Soniscalculatedssoniscalculatedssoniscalculatedss So n is calculated so? Soniscalculatedsosoniscalculatedsosoniscalculatedsosoniscalculated So n is calculated som? Soniscalculatedsomsoniscalculatedsomsoniscalculatedsomsoniscalcula So n is calculated some? soniscalculatedsomesoniscalculatedsomesoniscalculatedsomesoniscalculatedsomesoniscalc So n is calculated someh? soniscalculatedsomehsoniscalculatedsomehsoniscalculatedsomehsoniscalculatedsomehsonis So n is calculated someho? soniscalculatedsomehosoniscalculatedsomehosoniscalculatedsomehosoniscalculatedsomehosoniscalculatedsomehos So n is calculated somehow? soniscalculatedsomehowsoniscalculatedsomehowsoniscalculatedsomehowsoniscalculatedsomehowsoniscalculatedsom oksoniscalculatedinsomeway? oksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedin Okay, that is the dumbest idea for a rulebreaker I could ever have... 
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 71 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006  10:34 am:  
Hellish? Trout? o? oo? ooo? oooo? ososos? ssossossoss? wrotposdofh? u? uu? uuu? uuuu? i? ii? iii? iiii? iiiii? aaaaa? uuuuu? ooooo? eeeee? aouie? 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 317 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006  11:48 am:  
Hellish? Hellish Trout? Trouttr o? o oo? ooo ooo? oooooo oooo? oooooooooo ososos? ososososo ssossossoss? ssossossossssossos wrotposdofh? wrotposdofhwrotpos u? u uu? uuu uuu? uuuuuu uuuu? uuuuuuuuuu i? i ii? iii iii? iiiiii iiii? iiiiiiiiii iiiii? iiiiiiiiiiiiiii aaaaa? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa uuuuu? uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ooooo? ooooooooooooooo eeeee? eeeeeeeeeeeeeee aouie? aouieaouieaouie 
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 72 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006  12:27 pm:  
a? ab? abb? abbb? abbbb? ba? bba? bbba? bbbba? bbbbba? bab? babb? babbb? babbbb? bbab? bbbab? bbbbab? bbabb? bbabbb? bbabbbb? bbbabb? bbbbabb? bbbabbb? bbbabbbb? bbbbabbb? bbbbabbbb? 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 318 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006  1:33 pm:  
a? a ab? a abb? a abbb? a abbbb? a ba? ba bba? bba bbba? bbba bbbba? bbbba bbbbba? bbbbba bab? ba babb? ba babbb? ba babbbb? ba bbab? bba bbbab? bbba bbbbab? bbbba bbabb? bba bbabbb? bba bbabbbb?bba bbbabb? bbba bbbbabb? bbbba bbbabbb? bbba bbbabbbb? bbba bbbbabbb? bbbba bbbbabbbb? bbbba 
Mani (Mani)
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Post Number: 74 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  7:20 am:  
bbbbba bbbbbba bbbbbbba bbbbbbbba bbbbbbbbba bbaa bbaba bbabba bbabbba bbabbbba baa baba babba babbba babbbba aaba aabba aabbba aabbbba baaa baaba baabba baabbba baabbbba babaa bababa bababba bababbba bababbbba bbabaa bbababa bbababba bbababbba bbababbbba abbaa abbaba abbabba abbabbba abbabbbba 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 327 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  7:30 am:  
bbbbba bbbbba bbbbbba bbbbbba bbbbbbba bbbbbbba bbbbbbbba bbbbbbbba bbbbbbbbba bbbbbbbbba bbaa bbaabba bbaba bbababba bbabba bbabbabba bbabbba bbabbbabba bbabbbba bbabbbbabba baa baaba baba bababa babba babbabab babbba babbbaba babbbba babbbbaba aaba aabaaab aabba aabbaaab aabbba aabbbaaab aabbbba aabbbbaaab baaa baaabaaab baaba baababaaba baabba baabbabaabb baabbba baabbbabaabb baabbbba baabbbbabaabb babaa babaababa bababa babababababa bababba bababbabababb bababbba bababbbabababb bababbbba bababbbbabababb bbabaa bbabaabbabaabb bbababa bbabababbababab bbababba bbababbabbababba bbababbba bbababbbabbababbb bbababbbba bbababbbbabbababbb abbaa abbaaabbaa abbaba abbabaabbab abbabba abbabbaabbab abbabbba abbabbbaabbab abbabbbba abbabbbbaabbab 
Mani (Mani)
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Post Number: 75 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  10:30 am:  
Yeah, I think I've got it now. I'm working at writing an explanation of the rule right now. By the way, I think you did a mistake above: Mephistopheles? Mephistophelesmephi should be: Mephistopheles? Mephistophelesmephistophelesmephistophe Right? 
Mani (Mani)
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Post Number: 76 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  11:29 am:  
Let Q be an arbitrary question, consisting of a sequence of letters and/or other symbols. Construct the string Q', such that Q' is the same as Q except that all nonalphabetic symbols have been eleminated from it. Let the length of Q' be Q', and let the letters of Q', in order from the first one to the last one, be named q'_{1}, q'_{2}, ... , q'_{Q'}. Define the concept "syllable" like this: a syllable of a string S is any substring of S which consists of one vowel v which occurs in S, together with all the consonants which precede v in S, no more no less, and all these letters in the same order as they occur in S. Let the length of a syllable s of be written as s. Let p be the number of syllables in Q', and let s_{1}, s_{2}, ..., s_{p} be the syllables which occur in Q', in order from the first syllable to the last one. Finally, let the function which turns an arbitrary letter x from uppercase to lowercase (if it's not already in lowercase) be called lower(x). Then, in this rulebreaker puzzle, the answer A(Q) to the question Q is undefined in case p = 0. Otherwise, A(Q) is a string of length A(Q), consisting of letters a_{1}, a_{2}, ..., a_{A(Q)¦} such that a_{1} = q'_{1}, and that for all x in the interval 2 < x < A(Q) , a_{x} = lower(q'_{x modulo Q'}), and where A(Q) is given as the sum of all terms (p  i + 1) * s_{i} generated by letting i take all values between 1 and p. 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 328 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  1:02 pm:  
uhh... yes I made a mistake. I guess you figured it out: Find all vowels in the question (without spaces and nonalphabetic symbols, for the sake iof simplicity). Then, add their positions (e.g. if a vowel is a 3rd letter of the word, its position = 3) to get a sum S. Then, repeat the letters of the question to get a string of length S. Right. 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 329 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  1:02 pm:  
Oops. *** SPOILER *** 
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 77 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  1:15 pm:  
Example: !!!A biG ShrimP??? Abigshrimpab Q = !!!A biG ShrimP??? Q' = AbiGShrimP Q' = 10 q'_{1} = A, q'_{2} = b, q'_{3} = i, q'_{4} = G, q'_{5} = S, q'_{6} = h, q'_{7} = r, q'_{8} = i, q'_{9} = m, q'_{10} = P s_{1} = A, s_{2} = bi, s_{3} = GShri s_{1} = 1, s_{2} = 2, s_{3} = 5 There are no more syllables in Q'. Hence p = 3. Since p is not 0, A(Q) is defined. A(Q) = (p1+1)*s_{1} + (p2+1)*s_{2} + (p3+1)*s_{3} A(Q) = (31+1)*1 + (32+1)*2 + (33+1)*5 A(Q) = 3*1 + 2*2 + 1*5 A(Q) = 3 + 4 + 5 A(Q) = 13 A(Q) = a_{1}a_{2}a_{3}a_{4}a_{5}a_{6}a_{7}a_{8}a_{9}a_{10}a_{11}a_{12} A(Q) = q'_{1}lower(q'_{2 mod 10})lower(q'_{3 mod 10})lower(q'_{4 mod 10})lower(q'_{5 mod 10})lower(q'_{6 mod 10})lower(q'_{7 mod 10})lower(q'_{8 mod 10})lower(q'_{9 mod 10})lower(q'_{10 mod 10})lower(q'_{11 mod 10})lower(q'_{12 mod 10}) A(Q) = Alower(q'_{2})lower(q'_{3})lower(q'_{4})lower(q'_{5})lower(q'_{6})lower(q'_{7})lower(q'_{8})lower(q'_{9})lower(q'_{10})lower(q'_{1})lower(q'_{2})lower A(Q) = Alower(b)lower(i)lower(G)lower(S)lower(h)lower(r)lower(i)lower(m)lower(P)lower(A)lower(b) A(Q) = Abigshrimpab

Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 332 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  1:17 pm:  
Yes. 
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 78 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  1:19 pm:  
Oh, right. Your way of thinking of it was much simpler. ;) But my way of thinking of it, with "syllable" lengths and stuff like that, gives the same result. 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 333 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  1:22 pm:  
Congrats on figuring it out. Now go see my "Peculiar Clock" puzzle 
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 79 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  1:22 pm:  
Oops, A(Q) = 13 in the example above should be A(Q) = 12. But all this math was of course only a ridiculously complex way of describing the ridiculously complex way I thought about this. 
Mani (Mani)
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Post Number: 80 Registered: 102006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  1:26 pm:  
Congrats on figuring it out. Now go see my "Peculiar Clock" puzzle. Sure, if you check out my puzzle, "The Profundities of a Fuzzy Weltanschauung" 
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Post Number: 336 Registered: 92006
 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006  5:41 pm:  
Okay, but a bit later. 