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Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ahem.
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Damn?
Hell?
Hellish?
Mephistopheles?
The evil one?
Mara?
Demon?
Trout?
Jesus?
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Damn? Da
Hell? He
Hellish? Hellish
Mephistopheles? Mephistophelesmephi
The evil one? Theevilonetheevilonetheevilonet
Mara? Marama
Demon? Demond
Trout? Trouttr
Jesus? Jesusj
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Eh. The rule could be that answers should consist of the n first letters of the infinite letter sequence (Q')*, where n is an arbitrary natural number, and Q' is the question but with all blanks removed, and the symbol * is defined by the fact that X* (where X is any arbitrary string of letters) stands for the infinite string that is constructed by repeating X infinitely many times. But of course this possibility is only a red herring...
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Eh. The rule could be that answers should consist of the n first letters of the infinite letter sequence (Q')*, where n is an arbitrary natural number, and Q' is the question but with all blanks removed, and the symbol * is defined by the fact that X* (where X is any arbitrary string of letters) stands for the infinite string that is constructed by repeating X infinitely many times. But of course this possibility is only a red herring... Uh, I think you're right. But you need to determine what is n
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S?
So?
So ?
So n?
So n ?
So n i?
So n is?
So n is ?
So n is c?
So n is ca?
So n is cal?
So n is calc?
So n is calcu?
So n is calcul?
So n is calcula?
So n is calculat?
So n is calculate?
So n is calculated?
So n is calculated ?
So n is calculated s?
So n is calculated so?
So n is calculated som?
So n is calculated some?
So n is calculated someh?
So n is calculated someho?
So n is calculated somehow?
oksoniscalculatedinsomeway?

aaaa?
bbbb?
cccc?
dddd?
eeee?
ffff?
gggg?
hhhh?
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S? CA
So? So
So ? So
So n? So
So n ? So
So n i? Soniso
So n is? Soniss
So n is ? Soniss
So n is c? Sonisc
So n is ca? Soniscasonisc
So n is cal? Soniscalsonis
So n is calc? Soniscalcsoni
So n is calcu? Soniscalcusoniscalcuson
So n is calcul? Soniscalculsoniscalculs
So n is calcula? Soniscalculasoniscalculasoniscalcul
So n is calculat? Soniscalculatsoniscalculatsoniscalc
So n is calculate? Soniscalculatesoniscalculatesoniscalculatesonisca
So n is calculated? Soniscalculatedsoniscalculatedsoniscalculatedsoni
So n is calculated ? Soniscalculatedsoniscalculatedsoniscalculatedsoni

aaaa? aaaaaaaaaa
bbbb? CA
cccc? CA
dddd? CA
eeee? eeeeeeeeee
ffff? CA
gggg? CA
hhhh? CA

The skipped questions will be answered later
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So n is calculated s? Soniscalculatedssoniscalculatedssoniscalculatedss
So n is calculated so? Soniscalculatedsosoniscalculatedsosoniscalculatedsosoniscalculated
So n is calculated som? Soniscalculatedsomsoniscalculatedsomsoniscalculatedsomsoniscalcula
So n is calculated some? soniscalculatedsomesoniscalculatedsomesoniscalculatedsomesoniscalculatedsomesoniscalc
So n is calculated someh? soniscalculatedsomehsoniscalculatedsomehsoniscalculatedsomehsoniscalculatedsomehsonis
So n is calculated someho? soniscalculatedsomehosoniscalculatedsomehosoniscalculatedsomehosoniscalculatedsomehosoniscalculatedsomehos
So n is calculated somehow? soniscalculatedsomehowsoniscalculatedsomehowsoniscalculatedsomehowsoniscalculatedsomehowsoniscalculatedsom
oksoniscalculatedinsomeway? oksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedinsomewayoksoniscalculatedin

Okay, that is the dumbest idea for a rulebreaker I could ever have...
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Hellish?
Trout?

o?
oo?
ooo?
oooo?
ososos?
ssossossoss?
wrotposdofh?
u?
uu?
uuu?
uuuu?
i?
ii?
iii?
iiii?
iiiii?
aaaaa?
uuuuu?
ooooo?
eeeee?
aouie?
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Hellish? Hellish
Trout? Trouttr

o? o
oo? ooo
ooo? oooooo
oooo? oooooooooo
ososos? ososososo
ssossossoss? ssossossossssossos
wrotposdofh? wrotposdofhwrotpos
u? u
uu? uuu
uuu? uuuuuu
uuuu? uuuuuuuuuu
i? i
ii? iii
iii? iiiiii
iiii? iiiiiiiiii
iiiii? iiiiiiiiiiiiiii
aaaaa? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
uuuuu? uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
ooooo? ooooooooooooooo
eeeee? eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
aouie? aouieaouieaouie
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a?
ab?
abb?
abbb?
abbbb?
ba?
bba?
bbba?
bbbba?
bbbbba?
bab?
babb?
babbb?
babbbb?
bbab?
bbbab?
bbbbab?
bbabb?
bbabbb?
bbabbbb?
bbbabb?
bbbbabb?
bbbabbb?
bbbabbbb?
bbbbabbb?
bbbbabbbb?
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a? a
ab? a
abb? a
abbb? a
abbbb? a
ba? ba
bba? bba
bbba? bbba
bbbba? bbbba
bbbbba? bbbbba
bab? ba
babb? ba
babbb? ba
babbbb? ba
bbab? bba
bbbab? bbba
bbbbab? bbbba
bbabb? bba
bbabbb? bba
bbabbbb?bba
bbbabb? bbba
bbbbabb? bbbba
bbbabbb? bbba
bbbabbbb? bbba
bbbbabbb? bbbba
bbbbabbbb? bbbba
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bbbbba
bbbbbba
bbbbbbba
bbbbbbbba
bbbbbbbbba

bbaa
bbaba
bbabba
bbabbba
bbabbbba

baa
baba
babba
babbba
babbbba

aaba
aabba
aabbba
aabbbba

baaa
baaba
baabba
baabbba
baabbbba

babaa
bababa
bababba
bababbba
bababbbba

bbabaa
bbababa
bbababba
bbababbba
bbababbbba

abbaa
abbaba
abbabba
abbabbba
abbabbbba
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bbbbba bbbbba
bbbbbba bbbbbba
bbbbbbba bbbbbbba
bbbbbbbba bbbbbbbba
bbbbbbbbba bbbbbbbbba

bbaa bbaabba
bbaba bbababba
bbabba bbabbabba
bbabbba bbabbbabba
bbabbbba bbabbbbabba

baa baaba
baba bababa
babba babbabab
babbba babbbaba
babbbba babbbbaba

aaba aabaaab
aabba aabbaaab
aabbba aabbbaaab
aabbbba aabbbbaaab

baaa baaabaaab
baaba baababaaba
baabba baabbabaabb
baabbba baabbbabaabb
baabbbba baabbbbabaabb

babaa babaababa
bababa babababababa
bababba bababbabababb
bababbba bababbbabababb
bababbbba bababbbbabababb

bbabaa bbabaabbabaabb
bbababa bbabababbababab
bbababba bbababbabbababba
bbababbba bbababbbabbababbb
bbababbbba bbababbbbabbababbb

abbaa abbaaabbaa
abbaba abbabaabbab
abbabba abbabbaabbab
abbabbba abbabbbaabbab
abbabbbba abbabbbbaabbab
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Yeah, I think I've got it now. I'm working at writing an explanation of the rule right now.

By the way, I think you did a mistake above:

Mephistopheles? Mephistophelesmephi

should be:

Mephistopheles? Mephistophelesmephistophelesmephistophe

Right?
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Let Q be an arbitrary question, consisting of a sequence of letters and/or other symbols. Construct the string Q', such that Q' is the same as Q except that all non-alphabetic symbols have been eleminated from it.

Let the length of Q' be |Q'|, and let the letters of Q', in order from the first one to the last one, be named q'1, q'2, ... , q'|Q'|.

Define the concept "syllable" like this: a syllable of a string S is any substring of S which consists of one vowel v which occurs in S, together with all the consonants which precede v in S, no more no less, and all these letters in the same order as they occur in S.

Let the length of a syllable s of be written as |s|.

Let p be the number of syllables in Q', and let s1, s2, ..., sp be the syllables which occur in Q', in order from the first syllable to the last one.

Finally, let the function which turns an arbitrary letter x from uppercase to lowercase (if it's not already in lowercase) be called lower(x).

Then, in this rulebreaker puzzle, the answer A(Q) to the question Q is undefined in case p = 0. Otherwise, A(Q) is a string of length |A(Q)|, consisting of letters a1, a2, ..., a|A(Q)¦ such that a1 = q'1, and that for all x in the interval 2 < x < |A(Q)| ,

ax = lower(q'x modulo |Q'|),

and where |A(Q)| is given as the sum of all terms (p - i + 1) * |si| generated by letting i take all values between 1 and p.
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uhh... yes I made a mistake. I guess you figured it out:

Find all vowels in the question (without spaces and non-alphabetic symbols, for the sake iof simplicity). Then, add their positions (e.g. if a vowel is a 3rd letter of the word, its position = 3) to get a sum S. Then, repeat the letters of the question to get a string of length S.


Right.
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Oops.
*** SPOILER ***
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Example:

!!!A biG ShrimP??? Abigshrimpab


Q = !!!A biG ShrimP???
Q' = AbiGShrimP
|Q'| = 10
q'1 = A, q'2 = b, q'3 = i, q'4 = G, q'5 = S, q'6 = h, q'7 = r, q'8 = i, q'9 = m, q'10 = P
s1 = A, s2 = bi, s3 = GShri
|s1| = 1, |s2| = 2, |s3| = 5

There are no more syllables in Q'.
Hence p = 3. Since p is not 0, A(Q) is defined.
|A(Q)| = (p-1+1)*|s1| + (p-2+1)*|s2| + (p-3+1)*|s3|

|A(Q)| = (3-1+1)*1 + (3-2+1)*2 + (3-3+1)*5
|A(Q)| = 3*1 + 2*2 + 1*5
|A(Q)| = 3 + 4 + 5
|A(Q)| = 13

A(Q) = a1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a10a11a12
A(Q) = q'1lower(q'2 mod 10)lower(q'3 mod 10)lower(q'4 mod 10)lower(q'5 mod 10)lower(q'6 mod 10)lower(q'7 mod 10)lower(q'8 mod 10)lower(q'9 mod 10)lower(q'10 mod 10)lower(q'11 mod 10)lower(q'12 mod 10)
A(Q) = Alower(q'2)lower(q'3)lower(q'4)lower(q'5)lower(q'6)lower(q'7)lower(q'8)lower(q'9)lower(q'10)lower(q'1)lower(q'2)lower
A(Q) = Alower(b)lower(i)lower(G)lower(S)lower(h)lower(r)lower(i)lower(m)lower(P)lower(A)lower(b)
A(Q) = Abigshrimpab
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Yes.
Mani (Mani)
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Oh, right. Your way of thinking of it was much simpler. ;)

But my way of thinking of it, with "syllable" lengths and stuff like that, gives the same result.
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Congrats on figuring it out. Now go see my "Peculiar Clock" puzzle :-)
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Oops, |A(Q)| = 13 in the example above should be |A(Q)| = 12. But all this math was of course only a ridiculously complex way of describing the ridiculously complex way I thought about this.
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Congrats on figuring it out. Now go see my "Peculiar Clock" puzzle.

Sure, if you check out my puzzle, "The Profundities of a Fuzzy Weltanschauung"
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Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 5:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, but a bit later.

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