| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1889 Registered: 8-2001 |
George & Greta, a happily married & childless couple, have been offered a pair of almost perfect jobs in the same organization. The work is interesting, well-paid, safe, legal, & in accord with G & G's principles. The benefits are excellent, the jobs are secure, & all the co-workers appeal to G & G. The organization is in an attractive, safe, interesting city with good politics & good weather, which is near everyone G & G want to be near & far from everyone G & G want to avoid. Yet they are--reasonably--turning down these wonderful jobs in favor of jobs that are less attractive in one or more of the respects listed. How come???? | ||
| Neeraj (Neeraj)
New member Username: Neeraj Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 |
Are they are required to work in different shifts? | ||
| Hipsterzbeware (Hipsterzbeware)
New member Username: Hipsterzbeware Post Number: 32 Registered: 10-2006 |
Is there a rule at the workplace forbidding a husband and wife from working together? | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 713 Registered: 7-2001 |
the chosen jobs - are they in a different town? state? country? is there anything about the local laws that has affected their choice? is there some benefit that they will get if they choose the less attractive jobs? or would they avoid some disbenefit by choosing them? does the choice concern - where they want to live? who they want to mix with? their future plans in having a family? their finances? could this puzzle equally be summed up as 'G & G choose to live in place A rather than place B? they choose to work in place A rather than place B? they choose to work for company A rather than company B? they choose to be part of community A rather than community B? do healthcare facilties figure in their decision? educational facilities? attitude to race? is their race relevant? is it relevant they are childless? is their age relevant? could they be late middle aged? young twenties? are their hobbies relevant? would choosing the second jobs allow them to do something they could not if they chose the other jobs? | ||
| Magic_pie (Magic_pie)
New member Username: Magic_pie Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 |
Do they want to avoid working together for some reason? Do they feel like their relationship would suffer if they spent so much time together? Are they thinking of having kids in the near future? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1890 Registered: 8-2001 |
Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 1:05 am: Are they are required to work in different shifts?no Hipsterzbeware (Hipsterzbeware) New member Username: Hipsterzbeware Post Number: 32 Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 2:12 am: Is there a rule at the workplace forbidding a husband and wife from working together? no Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 713 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 1:31 pm: the chosen jobs - are they in a different town? no state? no country? no is there anything about the local laws that has affected their choice? noish is there some benefit that they will get if they choose the less attractive jobs? see next answer or would they avoid some disbenefit by choosing them? yes does the choice concern - where they want to live? yes who they want to mix with? no their future plans in having a family? yes their finances? no could this puzzle equally be summed up as 'G & G choose to live in place A rather than place B? yes they choose to work in place A rather than place B? see precious answer they choose to work for company A rather than company B? see last answer but one they choose to be part of community A rather than community B? yope do healthcare facilties figure in their decision? no educational facilities? no attitude to race? no is their race relevant? no is it relevant they are childless? no is their age relevant? yope could they be late middle aged? yes young twenties? yes are their hobbies relevant? no would choosing the second jobs allow them to do something they could not if they chose the other jobs?yope Magic_pie (Magic_pie) New member Username: Magic_pie Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 5:40 pm: Do they want to avoid working together for some reason? noDo they feel like their relationship would suffer if they spent so much time together? no Are they thinking of having kids in the near future? yes | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 310 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is location relevant? Is maternity leave relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1896 Registered: 8-2001 |
Martinfg (Martinfg) New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 310 Registered: 8-2005 Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:12 am: Is location relevant? yes Is maternity leave relevant?no | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 311 Registered: 8-2005 |
So are the jobs they accepted in the same location as those they turned down? | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 714 Registered: 7-2001 |
is adoption relevant? local rules for adoption? would the place with the better jobs somehow affect their ability to have children? to adopt? is there something about them that would mean they would be considered unsuitable to be parents in some areas? are the educational opportunities in the two areas relevant? would their future child have better opportunities in the chosen area? is the area less wealthy? more deprived? would this give an advantage to their future child? would it 'open doors' academically if the child came from a relatively deprived area? are quotas od any sort relevant? here in the UK it is said to be easier to get into medical school if you come from a poor state school than if you come from a rich private school - the threshold is lowered. Not sure if it's true - is this sort of thing relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1901 Registered: 8-2001 |
Martinfg (Martinfg) New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 311 Registered: 8-2005 Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 8:27 am: So are the jobs they accepted in the same location as those they turned down?no Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 714 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 4:31 pm: is adoption relevant? no local rules for adoption? no would the place with the better jobs somehow affect their ability to have children? no to adopt? no is there something about them that would mean they would be considered unsuitable to be parents in some areas? no are the educational opportunities in the two areas relevant? no would their future child have better opportunities in the chosen area? no is the area less wealthy? irrel more deprived? ditto would this give an advantage to their future child? no would it 'open doors' academically if the child came from a relatively deprived area? noare quotas od any sort relevant? no, although I had amnother puzzle like that once here in the UK it is said to be easier to get into medical school if you come from a poor state school than if you come from a rich private school - the threshold is lowered. Not sure if it's true - is this sort of thing relevant? no | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 776 Registered: 6-2006 |
Regarding what aspects of having children is the place they want to live relevant: Concieving? Pregnancy? Childbirth? Infancy? School years? Is there a specific place they want to live? A specific city? State? Country? Continent? A specific quality they want in the place they live? Or is it more that they want to avoid something specific about the place where the jobs are located? Does the "disbenefit that they are trying to avoid" have to do with government? Laws? Taxes? Public institutions (like hospitals or schools) Attitudes? Politics? People? Is it a financial disbenefit? Emotional? Physical? Would anyone consider it a disbenefit? Or is it more subjective than that? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1905 Registered: 8-2001 |
Beccaann (Beccaann) New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 776 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 9:19 pm: Regarding what aspects of having children is the place they want to live relevant: Concieving? no Pregnancy? no Childbirth? no Infancy? no School years? no Is there a specific place they want to live? see later answers A specific city? ditto State? ditto Country? ditto Continent? ditto A specific quality they want in the place they live? ditto Or is it more that they want to avoid something specific about the place where the jobs are located? yes Does the "disbenefit that they are trying to avoid" have to do with government? no Laws? no Taxes? no Public institutions (like hospitals or schools) Attitudes? no Politics? no People?yope Is it a financial disbenefit? no Emotional? yes Physical? no Would anyone consider it a disbenefit? no Or is it more subjective than that? yes, but G & G are being reasonable | ||
| Grinruster (Grinruster)
New member Username: Grinruster Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2006 |
Does this emotional disbenefit relate to both their personal stories? Prior death involved? Does the type of job have to do anything with their decision? Is their decision based only on the place? Would they both suffer for the same reason if they had children there? Would the children suffer if they grow up in that place? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1912 Registered: 8-2001 |
Grinruster (Grinruster) New member Username: Grinruster Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 1:37 am: Does this emotional disbenefit relate to both their personal stories? yope Prior death involved? no Does the type of job have to do anything with their decision? noIs their decision based only on the place? yes Would they both suffer for the same reason if they had children there? see next answerWould the children suffer if they grow up in that place? yope | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 880 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does their decision have to do with physical features of place A? Something emotional? A memory? Does Place A LACK something compared to Place B? Does Place A HAVE something compared to Place B? Does place A lack parks? Lack a back yard for them? Lack Privacy? Lack something life sustaining? Lack something personal to the two of them? Does place A have crooked cops? Have too many of the wrong kind of church? Have something that would upset G&G if they had to see it every day? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 9 Registered: 9-2003 |
does the place they turned down have something that might risk their health? or their future childs health? or something they just fear might? like some sort of power plant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1915 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 880 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 10:57 am: Does their decision have to do with physical features of place A? no Something emotional? yesish A memory? yope Does Place A LACK something compared to Place B?see next answer Does Place A HAVE something compared to Place B? you could put it either way, but it's probably more appropriate to say that the place they are going to lacks a certain bad feature had by the place they are avoiding Does place A lack parks? irrel Lack a back yard for them? ditto Lack Privacy? ditto Lack something life sustaining? no Lack something personal to the two of them? yesish Does place A have crooked cops? Have too many of the wrong kind of church? irrel Have something that would upset G&G if they had to see it every day? yope ~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 9 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 10:45 pm: does the place they turned down have something that might risk their health? no or their future childs health? no or something they just fear might? no like some sort of power plant? no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2003 |
are there any other relevant individuals? who might live in the place they want to avoid? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 1935 Registered: 2-2001 |
Ehtnicity relevant? Is the bad feature related to physical objects? Specific locations? Groups/organizations? Historical occurences? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1920 Registered: 8-2001 |
~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 11:48 am: are there any other relevant individuals? yes who might live in the place they want to avoid? yope Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 1935 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 2:47 pm: Ehtnicity relevant? no Is the bad feature related to physical objects? no Specific locations? yope Groups/organizations? no Historical occurences? yes | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 881 Registered: 6-2005 |
Would it help to determine which city this is? Is the country where this city is located in (insert LTPF list of countries)? Does the emotional disbenefit relate to religion? persecution? I.e. Akin to my jewish relatives never coming to visit me when my family was stationed in Germany? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2003 |
1 other relevant person? 2? 3? 4? more? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1925 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 881 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 7:27 am: Would it help to determine which city this is? yes Is the country where this city is located in (insert LTPF list of countries)? It could be in the US & possibly--I'm not sure--in some other countries as well Does the emotional disbenefit relate to religion? no persecution? I.e. Akin to my jewish relatives never coming to visit me when my family was stationed in Germany? no ~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 12:47 pm: 1 other relevant person? no 2? no 3? no 4? no more? yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2003 |
5? more than 10? more than 15? more than 20? are these relevant people co-workers? family members? friends? strangers? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1929 Registered: 8-2001 |
~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 9:35 am: 5? more than 10? more than 15? more than 20? yes are these relevant people co-workers? yes family members? yes friends? yes strangers? yes | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 1945 Registered: 2-2001 |
Would it be all the inhabitants of the area? Is it a physical feature of the people? Accent? Language? Appearance? Culture? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1932 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 1945 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 6:49 pm: Would it be all the inhabitants of the area? yope Is it a physical feature of the people? yesish Accent? noLanguage? no Appearance? no Culture? yes | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 887 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the city in question... Salt lake city, Utah? Las Vegas, NV? New York, NY? San Francisco, CA? (Insert LTPF list of major U.S. Cities) | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 888 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is there a higher prevalence of a certain lifestyle choice/preference that G&G don't want to overexpose their future child to? Mormonism? Catholisism? Other religion? A cult? The KKK? Homosexuality? Prostitution? Gambling? Badly made cars (Detroit)? The Amish? Politicians (of any capital city)? Lawyers? Disco? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1933 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 887 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 8:35 am: Is the city in question... Salt lake city, Utah? Las Vegas, NV? New York, NY? San Francisco, CA? (Insert LTPF list of major U.S. Cities) It's a US city, but not a major city Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 888 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 8:38 am: Is there a higher prevalence of a certain lifestyle choice/preference that G&G don't want to overexpose their future child to? Mormonism? Catholisism? Other religion? A cult? The KKK? Homosexuality? Prostitution? Gambling? Badly made cars (Detroit)? The Amish? Politicians (of any capital city)? Lawyers? Disco? no to all | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 890 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the city in Alaska? Arizona? Arkansas? (insert LTPF list of U.S. States)? This yesish physical/culture feature of the people... Anatomy feature? Body feature? Piercings? Tattoos? Clothing feature? Food feature? Building feature? Art? Manners? Habbit? Superstition? Way of thinking? Dance? Business practices? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1938 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 890 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 6:54 am: Is the city in Alaska? Arizona? Arkansas? (insert LTPF list of U.S. States)?It's in New York This yesish physical/culture feature of the people... Anatomy feature? Body feature? Piercings? Tattoos? Clothing feature? Food feature? Building feature? Art? Manners? Habbit? Superstition? Way of thinking? Dance? Business practices? none of the above  !!!!! | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 896 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is this some ritzy place to live? Like the Hamptons? Are most of the people who live there snobs? feature... wealth? poverty? attitude? things that reflect that capitalism works? | ||
| Sebastepistis (Sebastepistis)
New member Username: Sebastepistis Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2006 |
Are we talking about the Oneida community? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1946 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 896 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 5:51 am: Is this some ritzy place to live?no Like the Hamptons? no Are most of the people who live there snobs? no feature... wealth? no poverty? no attitude? no things that reflect that capitalism works? no Sebastepistis (Sebastepistis) New member Username: Sebastepistis Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 1:00 pm: Are we talking about the Oneida community? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1947 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 896 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 5:51 am: Is this some ritzy place to live? no Like the Hamptons? no Are most of the people who live there snobs? no feature... wealth? no poverty? no attitude? no things that reflect that capitalism works? no Sebastepistis (Sebastepistis) New member Username: Sebastepistis Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 1:00 pm: Are we talking about the Oneida community? no | ||
| Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2006 |
have g & g ever met/seen/heard of any people in the community which they turned down in favour of their old community besides those who work at the job-offering company? if yes, do any of said persons bear grudges against g&g? are g&g in danger of death by moving? of physical injury? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1952 Registered: 8-2001 |
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese) New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 6:11 pm: have g & g ever met/seen/heard of any people in the community which they turned down in favour of their old community besides those who work at the job-offering company?irrel if yes, do any of said persons bear grudges against g&g? no are g&g in danger of death by moving? no of physical injury? no | ||
| Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2006 |
is the disbenefit related to finance (not pay, but benefits, etc) have either g ever lived in this new community? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1955 Registered: 8-2001 |
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese) New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 11:11 pm: is the disbenefit related to finance (not pay, but benefits, etc) no have either g ever lived in this new community? irrel | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1956 Registered: 8-2001 |
BLOOOOOOPERRRRALLLERTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!! Is the city in Alaska? Arizona? Arkansas? (insert LTPF list of U.S. States)?It's in New York I have just learned that the coity could also be in Michigan. Some other states may also be possible, but I don't know of any | ||
| Sebastepistis (Sebastepistis)
New member Username: Sebastepistis Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2006 |
Are George and Greta religious? I know of the town of Hell, Michigan - does this have anything to do with the puzzle? Are George and Greta turning down jobs because they'll live in Hell on Earth?  | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1959 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sebastepistis (Sebastepistis) New member Username: Sebastepistis Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 6:12 am: Are George and Greta religious? irrel I know of the town of Hell, Michigan - does this have anything to do with the puzzle? no Are George and Greta turning down jobs because they'll live in Hell on Earth? :-) no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1965 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: G & G'sa reason for turning down the job, although reasonable given their special circumstances, is very unusual & may never actually have occurred | ||
| Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 33 Registered: 12-2006 |
IS the disbenefit related to the job itself or the community itself? Both? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1966 Registered: 8-2001 |
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese) New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 33 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 4:07 pm: IS the disbenefit related to the job itself or the community itself? Both? the community only | ||
| Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 36 Registered: 12-2006 |
would they be required to live in special housing as a result of their work? are any of the following relevant: - buildings near the place of work - " the home - quality of the schools - proximity from any persons (i.e. we can't see Grammy, she lives too far away) - the ethnic composition of the neighbourhood - a specific experience - any illness the children might have - an illness (mental or physical) that g or g might have wow, this is hard ... but fun | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1968 Registered: 8-2001 |
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese) New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 36 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 3:44 pm: would they be required to live in special housing as a result of their work?no are any of the following relevant: - buildings near the place of work no - " the home no - quality of the schools no - proximity from any persons (i.e. we can't see Grammy, she lives too far away) no - the ethnic composition of the neighbourhood no - a specific experience yesish - any illness the children might have no - an illness (mental or physical) that g or g might have no wow, this is hard ... but fun Please check out my other two puzzles as well!! | ||
| Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2006 |
did the experience occur in this city? does the experience relate to a specific aspect of the city? the experience is _______: - a death - an illness - a financial loss - a crime committed - a punishment - something frightening - something related to children - is pedophilia relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1969 Registered: 8-2001 |
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese) New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 5:49 pm: did the experience occur in this city? no does the experience relate to a specific aspect of the city? yes--find out which one!! the experience is _______: - a death - an illness - a financial loss - a crime committed - a punishment - something frightening - something related to children none of these is it - is pedophilia relevant? no | ||
| Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 48 Registered: 12-2006 |
Was this experience, in your opinion: - generally unbothersome to g&g - definitely negative, but only intermittently traumatic to g&g - moderately negative, slightly affecting daily life for the couple - severely affecting every aspect of g & g's lives did this experience occur: - when the couple were children - when they were engaged - when they were married - during pregnancy - OR did it happen to a dear friend/loved one of theirs? would most people be bothered by this experience? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1971 Registered: 8-2001 |
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese) New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 48 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 2:52 am: Was this experience, in your opinion: - generally unbothersome to g&g yes - definitely negative, but only intermittently traumatic to g&g - moderately negative, slightly affecting daily life for the couple - severely affecting every aspect of g & g's lives did this experience occur: - when the couple were childrenThjere are 2 relevant experiences. The first probably occurred in childhood; the second when they were engaged or afterv they were married - when they were engaged - when they were married - during pregnancy - OR did it happen to a dear friend/loved one of theirs? would most people be bothered by this experience? no | ||
| Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2006 |
Are these experiences that one could likely read about in an American History text? A World History text? Is this experience related to: - violence - religion - (pardon my taboo) sex - politics - a community as a whole - a death - rituals - maternity - paternity Are any names (of the city, mayor, family, etc.) relevant? Are g or g: - paranoid - obsessive-compulsive - phobic - ill or abnormal at all? Was this experience caused by: - someone - some people - a natural force - animals? Did it make them: - sad - angry - scared - nostalgic - of mixed emotions - none of these? Are their past experiences with each other relevant? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2007 |
you responded to 'physical features of people' as 'yesish.' Are these people mutilated? Are g or g mutilated? Is cancer relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1973 Registered: 8-2001 |
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese) New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 1:12 am: Are these experiences that one could likely read about in an American History text? no A World History text? possibly but unlikely Is this experience related to: - violence yes - religion yes - (pardon my taboo) sex yes - politicb{ yes} - a community as a whole yes - a death yope - rituals yes - maternity ,not specifically - paternity ditto Are any names (of the city yes, mayor no, family yope, etc.) relevant? BEST QUESTION YET!!! Are g or g: - paranoid no - obsessive-compulsive no - phobic no - ill or abnormal at all? no Was this experience caused by: - someoneyes - some people yes - a natural forceno more than any experience would be - animals? not specifically Did it make them: - sad irrel - angry ditto - scared ditto - nostalgic ditto - of mixed emotions ditto - none of these? ditto Are their past experiences with each other relevant? no Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 8:02 pm: you responded to 'physical features of people' as 'yesish.' Are these people mutilated? no Are g or g mutilated? no Is cancer relevant? no | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is this community mostly of one religion? (e. g. the Amish settlements) Is the thing they are trying to avoid merely traumatic, or is it dangerous? You say that the experience was related to sex, violence, rituals and yopeishly to death. Are they trying to avoid: - Negative sexual experiences - Violence - Rituals (on the side, do you mean sacrificial rituals?) - Death - or simply the new community members' opinions of these relevant topics? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1975 Registered: 8-2001 |
Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 9:20 pm: Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese) New member Username: Stinkycheese Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 1:12 am: Are these experiences that one could likely read about in an American History text? no A World History text? possibly but unlikely Is this experience related to: - violence yes - religion yes - (pardon my taboo) sex yes - politicb{ yes} - a community as a whole yes - a death yope - rituals yes - maternity ,not specifically - paternity ditto Are any names (of the city yes, mayor no, family yope, etc.) relevant? BEST QUESTION YET!!! Are g or g: - paranoid no - obsessive-compulsive no - phobic no - ill or abnormal at all? no Was this experience caused by: - someoneyes - some people yes - a natural forceno more than any experience would be - animals? not specifically Did it make them: - sad irrel - angry ditto - scared ditto - nostalgic ditto - of mixed emotions ditto - none of these? ditto Are their past experiences with each other relevant? no Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 8:02 pm: you responded to 'physical features of people' as 'yesish.' Are these people mutilated? no Are g or g mutilated? no Is cancer relevant? no Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:18 pm: Is this community mostly of one religion? (e. g. the Amish settlements) Is the thing they are trying to avoid merely traumatic, or is it dangerous? You say that the experience was related to sex, violence, rituals and yopeishly to death. Are they trying to avoid: - Negative sexual experiences no - Violence no - Rituals (on the side, do you mean sacrificial rituals?) no - Death no - or simply the new community members' opinions of these relevant topics? no HINT: Remermber, I said that the relevance of the family & city names was the most imporetant thing that's come up yet!!!! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1976 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:18 pm: Is this community mostly of one religion? no (e. g. the Amish settlements) Is the thing they are trying to avoid merely traumatic yes--'traumatic' is over-dramatic, in fact, or is it dangerous? no | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does the name of the city remind them of this experience? Is the city/community name one which they would be embarrassed about? Is it Amityville? By the way, I have two new puzzles at the bottom of the threads page ... | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1977 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 10:51 pm: Does the name of the city remind them of this experience? Is the city/community name one which they would be embarrassed about? yesish Is it Amityville? no. HINT: FIND OUT THE CITY NAME!!!!! By the way, I have two new puzzles at the bottom of the threads page On the lateral mpuzzle forum, as in life, there are people who create problems & people who solve them. I fall into the former category. | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 10 Registered: 1-2007 |
Embarrassing because: - Both family and city share a name - City name reminds them of something unpleasant - City name is seemingly nonsensical - A certain unpleasant person was born/lived/died in the city Is this a famous city for any reason? Did anything of note happen here? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1978 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 10 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 11:11 pm: Embarrassing because: - Both family and city share a name noish - City name reminds them of something unpleasant no - City name is seemingly nonsensical no - A certain unpleasant person was born/lived/died in the city no Is this a famous city for any reason?noish Did anything of note happen here? no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2007 |
Have G&G got a family name that would associated them with something that has happened to this town? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 28 Registered: 9-2003 |
does the city name begin with A? B? C? D? E? F? G? H? I? J? K? L? M? N? O? P? Q? R? S? T? U? V? W? X? Y? Z? does the family name begin with A? B? C? D? E? F? G? H? I? J? K? L? M? N? O? P? Q? R? S? T? U? V? W? X? Y? Z? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1980 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 2:06 am: Have G&G got a family name that would associated them with something that has happened to this town? no ~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 28 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 5:01 pm: does the city name begin with A? B? C? D? E? F? G? H? I? J? K? L? M? N? O? P? Q? R? S? T? U? V? W? X? Y? Z? It begins with a T does the family name begin with A? B? C? D? E? F? G? H? I? J? K? L? M? N? O? P? Q? R? S? T? U? V? W? X? Y? Z? irrel | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 24 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is there any more info we need (besides the city name)? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 25 Registered: 1-2007 |
The city's metro population (For purposes of finding its name): 0 - 1000? 1000 - 10000? 10000 - 100000? 100000 - 500000? 500000+ | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1982 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 25 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 5:51 pm: The city's metro population (For purposes of finding its name): 0 - 1000? 1000 - 10000? 10000 - 100000? yes, as of the 2000 census--slightly under 50,000, in fact 100000 - 500000? 500000+ | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2007 |
is the city in a large metro area? if so: new york? buffalo? albany? Rochester? Is it within 100 kilometres of: Canada? Niagra Falls? NYC? The Adirondacks? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1983 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 6:17 pm: is the city in a large metro area? yes if so: new york? no buffalo? no albany? yes Rochester? no Is it within 100 kilometres of: Canada? Niagra Falls? NYC? The Adirondacks? all the answers here would be the same as for Albany | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it Troy? Anything else we need to find out? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1984 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 7:03 pm: Is it Troy? yes Anything else we need to find out? Well, there's one other fact, but it should be a snap to figure out.Keep in mind that the reason concerns the family they are planning to have | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 29 Registered: 1-2007 |
Tragically, as is the case with many American cities, the heart of downtown Troy fell victim to so-called "urban renewal" in the 1970s. The gutting of Troy's business district, which destroyed downtown Troy's vitality, has been a major contributing factor to the city's problems in recent years. However, there is an effort by lawmakers, business owners, and concerned citizens to revitalize the downtown area. Part of this effort has been the establishment (and some would say success) of its "Antique District," which is located on River Street in downtown Troy. Various cafes, sandwich shops, record stores, and art galleries have also begun to appear and/or gain prominence. In addition, there are numerous projects in the works to fill currently unoccupied buildings and storespace in the downtown area, including clothing stores, an independent film theatre, and other businesses. As a host to many art, literature, and music lovers, the city also hosts an array of free shows during the Summer. Many of these can be seen on River Street, in parks, and in certain cafes and coffee shops. From Wikpedia. Is any of the above relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1985 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 29 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 7:34 pm: Tragically, as is the case with many American cities, the heart of downtown Troy fell victim to so-called "urban renewal" in the 1970s. The gutting of Troy's business district, which destroyed downtown Troy's vitality, has been a major contributing factor to the city's problems in recent years. However, there is an effort by lawmakers, business owners, and concerned citizens to revitalize the downtown area. Part of this effort has been the establishment (and some would say success) of its "Antique District," which is located on River Street in downtown Troy. Various cafes, sandwich shops, record stores, and art galleries have also begun to appear and/or gain prominence. In addition, there are numerous projects in the works to fill currently unoccupied buildings and storespace in the downtown area, including clothing stores, an independent film theatre, and other businesses. As a host to many art, literature, and music lovers, the city also hosts an array of free shows during the Summer. Many of these can be seen on River Street, in parks, and in certain cafes and coffee shops. From Wikpedia. Is any of the above relevant? not at all !! Keep in mind that the puzzle will work ONLY for a city named Troy. What's more, that's the ONLY relevant fact about the city!! | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the fall of Troy relevant? I'm trying to think ... | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1986 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 7:43 pm: Is the fall of Troy relevant? The historical, fictional Troy is relevant, although the specific fall is not important. Remember, G&G's prospective family is important & I said 'yope' in response to whether names in the family were important. NOW IT SHOULD PRACTICALLY SOLVE ITSELF!!!! I'm trying to think ... | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 31 Registered: 1-2007 |
Aaahh... I wish it were .... Would the names create vulgar or otherwise offensive words when combined with 'Troy'? Is the family Greek? Is Homer relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1987 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 31 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 8:24 pm: Aaahh... I wish it were .... Would the names create vulgar or otherwise offensive words when combined with 'Troy'? no Is the family Greek? irrel Is Homer relevant? yes | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 32 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are any of their names names from the Ilad or Odyssey? If so, Odysseus? Ulysses? Homer? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1988 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 32 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 8:45 pm: Are any of their names names from the Ilad or Odyssey?yes If so, Odysseus? no Ulysses? no Homer? no | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 33 Registered: 1-2007 |
Penelope? A woman's name? An ememy of Ulysses? A comrade of his? A place name? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 23 Registered: 1-2007 |
Helen? Paris? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1989 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 33 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 9:46 pm: Penelope? no A woman's name? yes An ememy of Ulysses? no A comrade of his? no A place name? no Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 23 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 9:52 pm: Helen? yes Paris? no | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 36 Registered: 1-2007 |
So, Greta did not want to be called 'Helen of Troy'? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1990 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 36 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 10:24 pm: So, Greta did not want to be called 'Helen of Troy'? No, Greta's name is Greta. Why would anyone call her Helen. But you're ORT (on the right track) | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 26 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was Helen their daughter? Has is something to with the parents not wanting to bring Helen to Troy? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 37 Registered: 1-2007 |
I'm sorry ... I thought that 'Greta' might be a pseudonym simply suggesting a female. But anyway, do they know that they want to name their daughter Helen? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1991 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 26 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 11:40 pm: Was Helen their daughter? yes Has is something to with the parents not wanting to bring Helen to Troy? yes *******SPOILER ********* G&G are planning to name their first daughter Helen. So they avoid moving to Troy in order to spare her the embarrassment of being "Helen of Troy." Old puzzle hands may remnember that I once posted a similar puzzle about a hunchback who turned down a good job at U. of Notre Dame. And now please looook at my new puzzle at the bottom of the page!! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 1998 Registered: 8-2001 |
Note: I just thought of the following objection: Why couldn't they take the jobs & live in a neighboring town? So it would be better to make this a perfect house they turned down. | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2007 |
Or - why not just name their daughter something else? But good puzzle! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2003 Registered: 8-2001 |
Superman (Superman) New member Username: Superman Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 1:44 am: Or - why not just name their daughter something else? But good puzzle! Well, it's a background condition of the puzzle that they're set on naming her Helen. Maybe they're naming her after someone, or maybe they just like the name. |
