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Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It almost happened, but the time wasn’t right.
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Good news? (that it didn't happen)

Literally "the time wasn't right"? (e.g. "not 12:34")
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Good news? (that it didn't happen)Yes

Literally "the time wasn't right"? (e.g. "not 12:34") please rephrase
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Was there a mismatch on times?

e.g. a bomb set to the wrong time, so failed to kill its target?
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Time - As an era? Time shown in watch?
Almost happened - Did the action take place completely? Happened a bit? Didn't take place at all?
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Was there a mismatch on times? No

e.g. a bomb set to the wrong time, so failed to kill its target? No
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Time - As an era? No Time shown in watch? Yes
Almost happened - Did the action take place completely? Happened a bit? Didn't take place at all? This One
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Did anyone know it hadn't happened? Did they know why? Were they happy, unhappy?

Does the above apply to more than one person? Were they happy, unhappy, some of each.
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Was his watch set on the correct local time?
The thing that did not happen, would it have happened if it had been earlier? later? seconds? minutes? hours? does it have to coincide with something else that also has to happen? at the same time?
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Did anyone know it hadn't happened? Yes Did they know why? Yes Were they happy, Yes unhappy?

Does the above apply to more than one person?YesWere they happy, Yes unhappy, some of each.
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Was his watch set on the correct local time? Who's watch?
The thing that did not happen, would it have happened if it had been earlier? later? seconds? minutes? hours? this is largley irrelevant does it have to coincide with something else that also has to happen? a set of circumstances occurred that meant this thing did not happen at the same time?
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Any people directly involved (ie leading roles)? How many? [LPTFLPI]
More relevant people who are indirectly involved?
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Any people directly involved (ie leading roles)? How many? [LPTFLPI] there are a few people directly involved 2 mainly
More relevant people who are indirectly involved? many more potentialy directly/indirectly involved
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Did the two people fail to coordinate any activities? By miss-communicating? By unsynchorized watches? Set on different time-zones? Not taking DST into account?
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Did the two people fail to coordinate any activities? no By miss-communicating? no By unsynchorized watches? no Set on different time-zones? no Not taking DST into account? no

Big FA Possibly lurking
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did person 1 set their watch to the correct local time? person 2?

person 1 = adult? human? male?
person 2 = adult? human? male?

any occupations involved? any crimes? any planned crimes?
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did person 1 set their watch to the correct local time? person 2? there is the potential FA regarding the time

person 1 = adult? human? male? Yes to all
person 2 = adult? human? male? Yes to all

any occupations involved? Yes any crimes? Not crimes as such any planned crimes? No
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What happened? Was yesterday obliterated? Do you think we need to reproduce the posts (?3) or will they come back - or can we just go straight to nuclear war and the Cuban crisis and why was the time wrong?
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What happened? Was yesterday obliterated? Do you think we need to reproduce the posts (?3) or will they come back - or can we just go straight to nuclear war and the Cuban crisis and why was the time wrong? Dunno what happened a bit twilight zone-ish if you ask me! I think in the interests of the archive I will do a quick recap of this and we should carry on. Just give me a minute and I will be with you.
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Due to the really wierd loss of all yesterdays posts I will do a quick recap of what was discovered by yesterdays questions.

The thing that nearly happened was a nuclear war caused by the Cuban missile crisis with the 2 main people involved being Kruschev and Kennedy, the big thing to find now is why the time wasn't right.
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Was the time not right for Kennedy? for Kruschev? for someone else? for the world?
Would war have happened if the time had been right?
Was something not ready in time? Was someone waiting for something? Had a time been predicted - e.g. by Nostradamus? Was an actual watch or clock involved? Was a specific time of day relevant? Day/night?
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Was the time not right for Kennedy? for Kruschev? for someone else? for the world? For all of these
Would war have happened if the time had been right? Hard one to answer this I will say kind of...you'll see what I mean later
Was something not ready in time? No Was someone waiting for something? No Had a time been predicted - e.g. by Nostradamus? NO Was an actual watch or clock involved? No Was a specific time of day relevant? No Day/night? No
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Was the time not right for people to declare war?
for missiles to work? for a button to be pressed? a telephone call to be made? a conversation to take place? Was someone not where they should have been? Did we come nearer to war than most people think? Did both sides have as great an amount of nuclear armaments as was thought? As much knowledge of their use and effects?
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Was the time not right for people to declare war? I don't think there is ever a right time to declare war! possible wrong track happening here.
for missiles to work? No for a button to be pressed? No a telephone call to be made? No a conversation to take place? No Was someone not where they should have been? No Did we come nearer to war than most people think? I think most people knew how close it came. Did both sides have as great an amount of nuclear armaments as was thought? Yes As much knowledge of their use and effects? Yes

HINT: The actual time these events took place is not relevant to the puzzle
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Did anyone of the persons involved believe in astrology, card reading, numerology or similar?
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Did anyone of the persons involved believe in astrology, card reading, numerology or similar? irrelevant
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Does it have to do with that it was Kennedy and Kruschev in charge at that time, and that the outcome might have been another if more recent or current presidents had been in charge?
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Does it have to do with that it was Kennedy and Kruschev in charge at that time, and that the outcome might have been another if more recent or current presidents had been in charge? No
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Anything to do with Chinese Years? I was thinking Bay of Pigs and wondered whether it was the chinese year of the pig?

When you say the actual time the events took place is irrelevant do you mean the time of day or the year/decade the missile crises happened?
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Anything to do with Chinese Years? No I was thinking Bay of Pigs and wondered whether it was the chinese year of the pig? Nothing to do with new year

When you say the actual time the events took place is irrelevant do you mean the time of day or the year/decade the missile crises happened? The time in the puzzle does not refer to the time this event happened/nearly happened it is a bit more lateral
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Was the time wrong? left? left wing? untrue? not a right angle - like a sundial? immoral? inapt?
Could time have a capital letter? A warship? the magazine?
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Was the time wrong? Yes with hindsight during these events the time was considered to be wrong left? left wing? untrue? not a right angle - like a sundial? immoral? inapt?
Could time have a capital letter? A warship? the magazine? not the magazine but you are on the right track with this thinking
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Publishers?
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Publishers? No
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Was "time" a publication or mass media of any type?
Was "time" an organization of any type?
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Is "time" a military acronym? political? anti war group?
was "time's" existence at that time public knowledge?
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Was "time" a publication or mass media of any type? Not exactly but you are getting close
Was "time" an organization of any type? No but an organisation is very relevant
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Is "time" a military acronym? No political? No anti war group? No
was "time's" existence at that time public knowledge? time is not an organisation, however the time was public knowledge
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was it the countdown for new years?
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was it the countdown for new years? Ooh so close yet not quite there.....a countdown of sorts is involved but not for new years!
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Space launch?
Did America? Russia? plan to launch a spy satelite to get more info about enemy deployments (is that the right word?)? Was there a delay? Was the technology not yet quite right?
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Space launch? No
Did America? Russia? plan to launch a spy satelite to get more info about enemy deployments (is that the right word?)? Was there a delay? Was the technology not yet quite right? None of these
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Does the countdown relate to a deadline, such as that of an ultimatum?
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One more thought...a countdown to midnight?
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Martin, I can see the "add your message here" section at the bottom of your puzzle and that is how I have made post in your puzzle. It must be a problem at your end
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this is probably daft but anything to do with the "dawning of the age of aquarius"?
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Is it a very big clock that is counting down? and is the time now five to midnight?
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was it a countdown for a surprise party?
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Does the countdown relate to a deadline, Kind Of such as that of an ultimatum? Not Really

One more thought...a countdown to midnight? Yes
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this is probably daft but anything to do with the "dawning of the age of aquarius"? No
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was it a countdown for a surprise party? No

Is it a very big clock that is counting down? I'll say and is the time now five to midnight? YES do you wish to spoyle?
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I'll leave that to you. It's a good one.
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SPOILER: Rufus has bretty much got it so I'll spoil.

The puzzle concerns the events of the Cuban missile crisis in 1962, when soviets planned to deploy nuclear missiles in Cuba much to the distress of the Americans. This is widely believed to be the closest so far that the planet has come to a nuclear war. the full details can be found here.


Cuban Missile Crisis

The Time in the puzzle statement refers to the Doomsday Clock, which is a symbolic clock face that depicts the supposed nearness of a nuclear war, with midnight being the start of the war and the clock showing minutes to midnight. The clock image appears on the cover of The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists and is maintained by the board of directors.
The clock first appeared in 1947 and was set at 7 minutes to midnight, and over the years it has been advanced and retarded as events dictated.


The Doomsday Clock

However for whatever reason during the Missile Crisis the time did not change despite opinion that we were on the very brink of a nuclear war. Possibly the speed of events was to blame.

So A nuclear war almost happened, but the time on the Doomsday Clock was not right.

Thanks to everyone for playing.
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Nice puzzle Martin. Can't believe i didn't get it . I was reading an article about the Doomsday Clock only a week ago :-(
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