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Superman (Superman)
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 4:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When Joanne asks him about it, he always tells the truth. But when Catelin asks him about it, he always lies. Explain.

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Joanne and Catelin are both adult human females who ask 'Joe' the same question about his origins. They are not related to Joe. By lying to Catelin, he is avoiding a disadvantage. Jobs are relevant, and Joe's decision is based on more than who asks the question.
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 4:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does C have a prejudice against people from a certain place? No does he not like where he comes from? Yes does he want to impress her? no is Cs job relevant? Yes Js? No his? No
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Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 4:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Catelin rich? Irr Is money involved? no Is he a con man? no
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Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would Catelin's decisions or actions if she were to know Joe's real origins have impact on Joe? His career? His livelihood? His family?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 4:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would Catelin's decisions or actions if she were to know Joe's real origins have impact on Joe? not really His career? His livelihood? His family?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is Cs job:

artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 3:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is Cs job:

artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ? this
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 10:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The disadvantage Joe is avoiding...is it related to finance? health? career? livelihood? reputation? the law?

Is "who Joanna is" relevant. If she were any woman other than Catelin, would Joe still tell the truth to her? <i>not sure if I'm getting the question across correctly<i/>

Is Joe's origin something he is ashamed of? Would other people of the same origin lie if they were asked by Catelin about their origin?
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Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 3:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The disadvantage Joe is avoiding...is it related to finance? health? career? livelihood? reputation? the law? reputationish

Is "who Joanna is" relevant. <Not sure what you mean If she were any woman other than Catelin, would Joe still tell the truth to her? Most likely not sure if I'm getting the question across correctly

Is Joe's origin something he is ashamed of? yes Would other people of the same origin lie if they were asked by Catelin about their origin? Mabye
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About Catelin's job in Education/Academic research...which level of education - secondary school, college, university, graduate school?

Is she a teacher? professor? administration staff?

The part about Joe's origin that he is ashamed of...is it his education background?

Is Joe enrolling in some eduction program (such as EMBA)where Catelin teaches, but his education level is not as high as other executives in the program?
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About Catelin's job in Education/Academic research...which level of education - secondary school, college, university, graduate school? University

Is she a teacher? professor? administration staff? Professor

The part about Joe's origin that he is ashamed of...is it his education background? No

Is Joe enrolling in some eduction program (such as EMBA)where Catelin teaches, but his education level is not as high as other executives in the program? No
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Joe educated? On the same level as Catelin?
Did he go to a school that is a rival to Catelin's school (Oxford-Cambridge-style)?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Joe educated? Yes On the same level as Catelin? Irr
Did he go to a school that is a rival to Catelin's school (Oxford-Cambridge-style)? Irr
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

do people from his background have a certain reputation? that someone like C would be aware of? but J wouldn't?
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

do people from his background have a certain reputation? Yesish that someone like C would be aware of? Yes but J wouldn't? she wouldn't
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 3:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does "Where he comes from" mean where he was born, who he is employed by, or what location he just arrived from? Born
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 5:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is C sociology prof? history? political science? others (Need to come up with a more comprehensive list!)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 1:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is C sociology prof? history? political science? others (Need to come up with a more comprehensive list!) History
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it be helpful for US to discover where Joe was born? Or is that knowledge so "obscure' that only someone with C's education would know?

That certain reputation, is it negative? positive? neutral?
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 1:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it be helpful for US to discover where Joe was born? YES Or is that knowledge so "obscure' that only someone with C's education would know? NO

That certain reputation, is it negative? positive? neutral? NEGATIVE
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, let's look at geographic scale...I assume continent is not relevant, how about country relevance? province/state relevance? city/town relevance?

Would most people not care about this reputation? Would historians have particular negative reaction to his origin? Is his origin related to some atrocity? or something like Hitler's birthplace...?
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Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 9:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, let's look at geographic scale...I assume continent is not relevant, how about country relevance? province/state relevance? city/town relevance? city town

Would most people not care about this reputation? Would historians have particular negative reaction to his origin? Is his origin related to some atrocity? or something like Hitler's birthplace...? As a matter of fact ...

SPOILER:

Joe was born in Braunau am Inn, Austria, where Hitler was born. He usually tells the truth when people ask him because few know where Hitler was born, but a history professor, like Caitlin, might know and thus he might gain a negative association in her mind (or so he thinks).

Thanks for working on this one!
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Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 9:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good puzzle

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