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Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gordo and Steve make arrangements for a meeting at a particular place. Gordo has no intention of being there, but if Steve is late by even a few seconds Gordo could lose his job. What's going on?
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Gordo = human? male? adult?
same for Steve, please?

Is Steve expecting Gordo to be there? Or is this a meeting between Steve and someone else? if so, relevant how many? Is Steve and Gordo colleagues? their jobs relevant? Is this a business meeting?
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Gordo = human? male? adult?
same for Steve, please?
This description fits both

Is Steve expecting Gordo to be there? No
Or is this a meeting between Steve and someone else? Strictly speaking no
if so, relevant how many? FA
Is Steve and Gordo colleagues? Yes
their jobs relevant? Yes
Is this a business meeting? No
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Is Gordo someone's assistant\secretary?
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Is the meeting in connection with Gordo's job? With Steve's? Do Gordo and Steve both work for the same organization? Is Gordo Steve's boss? Does Steve know that Gordo has no intention of being there? Is a third person at the scene of the rendezvous? Are any CCTV cameras involved?
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Sorry, my post crossed with a few others: please ignore any duplicated questions!
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Is Gordo someone's assistant\secretary? No
Is the meeting in connection with Gordo's job? Yes With Steve's? And yes
Do Gordo and Steve both work for the same organization? Yes
Is Gordo Steve's boss? No (good q)
Does Steve know that Gordo has no intention of being there? Yes
Is a third person at the scene of the rendezvous? Very likely
Are any CCTV cameras involved? Can you possibly rephrase this question?
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Are CCTV cameras in any way relevant to the puzzle? Are there any such cameras at the site of the rendezvous? If so, are they switched on and functioning? Is Steve asked to take anything with him to the rendezvous? Is the rendezvous a legal activity (in, let's say, USA jurisdiction)? Would anyone be killed or hurt if Steve were to be a few seconds late? Do we need to find out more about the actual site of the rendezvous?
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Is Gordo's job to get Steve to place x at a certain time?
e.g. Steve is an astronaut, and Gordo is a NASA scientist, and we're talking about some space-station docking scenario?
If Steve was a few seconds early, would Gordo still be likely to lose his job? If he were a few minutes early?
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Are CCTV cameras in any way relevant to the puzzle? I'll say this...there are cameras involved, and they probably aren't CCTV although some of them may be
Are there any such cameras at the site of the rendezvous? Not at the exact site, no
If so, are they switched on and functioning? Slight FA (see previous answer)
Is Steve asked to take anything with him to the rendezvous? No (good q)
Is the rendezvous a legal activity (in, let's say, USA jurisdiction)? Yes
Would anyone be killed or hurt if Steve were to be a few seconds late? Killed - no. Hurt - maybe
Do we need to find out more about the actual site of the rendezvous? Of course

Is Gordo's job to get Steve to place x at a certain time? Hmmm...it is from a certain viewpoint, but this needs to be explored
e.g. Steve is an astronaut, and Gordo is a NASA scientist, and we're talking about some space-station docking scenario? Not the case but a good suggestion
If Steve was a few seconds early, would Gordo still be likely to lose his job? yes, maybe even more likely to lose it
If he were a few minutes early? This would not be possible
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Are their jobs within any of these areas;
Education/teaching?
medicine/health?
IT?
retail?
sales?
tradesman?
entertainer?
artist?
law?
law enforcement?
military?
bank/finance?
receptionist/office administration?
management?
transport?
construction?
farmer/fisherman?
seaman?
clown/magician?
circus artist?
postal services?
criminal?
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Based on the list in the previous post, the only item that relates to their job is "entertainer", yet this is not the exact description but it does partially apply to what they do
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TV involved? film? radio?
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Are they paparazzi? Private detectives? Is what they are doing moral? Does the third person know about the meeting?
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TV involved?Yes film?No radio?Yes
Are they paparazzi? No
Private detectives? No
Is what they are doing moral? Hmmm...hard to say if morality has anything to do with it - it is not immoral (if that helps)
Does the third person know about the meeting? Yes, but explore (good q)
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Is the 3rd person expecting to meet Gordo? Does Steve pretend to be Gordo? Does the third perosn know either of them prior to the meeting?
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Is the 3rd person expecting to meet Gordo? No
Does Steve pretend to be Gordo? No
Does the third perosn know either of them prior to the meeting? Maybe not personally, but he knows who they are
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So the third person (can we call him James? Or would Jane be more appropriate?) has heard of Gordo and Steve? Are they famous? Is J interviewing them? Happening on live tv/radio? Is it more of a business meeting? Is the arrangement to meet J? Is something else, other than meeting J, supposed to happen at an exact time? A phone call perhaps?
If Steve is late, could he be hurt? Gordo? J?
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is Steve an anchor person? is Gordo a producer? is Steve supposed to interview J?
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If no to J interviewing them, then is it the other way around (Steve is supposed to interview J)?
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So the third person (can we call him James? Or would Jane be more appropriate?) has heard of Gordo and Steve? Yes - if not before the metting, certainly by the time of it
Are they famous? Either or both of them may be
Is J interviewing them? No
Happening on live tv/radio? Yes
Is it more of a business meeting? No
Is the arrangement to meet J? No
Is something else, other than meeting J, supposed to happen at an exact time? YES
A phone call perhaps? No
If Steve is late, could he be hurt? Maybe
Gordo? Maybe (this could even be more likely than Steve being hurt)
J? Not likely

is Steve an anchor person? is Gordo a producer? is Steve supposed to interview J? No to all
If no to J interviewing them, then is it the other way around (Steve is supposed to interview J)? N/A
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is the job(insert LTPF usual job list)?
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Would Gordo know immediately if Steve had not been on time?

The third person knows about the meeting, but Steve is not meeting the third person. Right? Is someone else involved and relevant for the puzzle?
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is J dangerous? would he have been the one to hurt Steve? or Gordo?

does J think the meeting is about one thing? but its actually about something else?

is it anything to do with one of those tv programmes that reveals dodgy people e.g. dodgy builders who do bodge jobs, then expose them on tv?
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is the job(insert LTPF usual job list)? This is not an uncommon or unusual job that they have

Would Gordo know immediately if Steve had not been on time? Yes
The third person knows about the meeting, right...
but Steve is not meeting the third person. Right? It is not his intent to, but explore
Is someone else involved and relevant for the puzzle? There are several other people who are indirectly involved

is J dangerous? Yes
would he have been the one to hurt Steve? Yes, this is possible
or Gordo? No
does J think the meeting is about one thing? but its actually about something else? No - J knows full well the purpose of the meeting
is it anything to do with one of those tv programmes that reveals dodgy people e.g. dodgy builders who do bodge jobs, then expose them on tv? No, nothing like this
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are the police involved? are Steve or Gordo setting J up? to be arrested? is J a criminal? mob member?
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are the police involved? No
are Steve or Gordo setting J up? No
to be arrested? N/A
is J a criminal? mob member? Neither
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HINT: There is a very basic question that has not been asked yet - it concerns the first sentence of the puzzle statement.
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Ah, ok. Were the arrangements made face to face? By phone? By mail? Email? Fax? Txtmsg? Were both parties happy with the arrangements? Or was there some coercion? Some extortion? Were the arrangements made on the same day as the meeting? A day before? More than a day before? More than a week before? Long before? Did J know of the arrangements at the time they were made? Was J happy with the arrangements when he heard about them?
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Ah, ok. Were the arrangements made face to face? Yes, good q
By phone? By mail? Email? Fax? Txtmsg? So none of these
Were both parties happy with the arrangements? There's another word I would use
Or was there some coercion? Some extortion? No
Were the arrangements made on the same day as the meeting? YES, good q, and explore!
A day before? More than a day before? More than a week before? Not any of these
Long before? No, not very long at all!
Did J know of the arrangements at the time they were made? NO, good q
Was J happy with the arrangements Probably not at any time
when he heard about them? FA

Now you're getting somewhere...
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So J never even heard of the arrangements at all! All he knew was that he was supposed to be somewhere at sometime?
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So J never even heard of the arrangements at all! That's right
All he knew was that he was supposed to be somewhere at sometime? That's right (but there is just a bit more to it)
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So, was them being on the air a signal for another person?
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So, was them being on the air a signal for another person? No
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So Gordon meets with Steve face-to-face (?) and arranges Steve's meeting with J (?) in the place J plans to be (?) but without J knowing about this arrangement? Steve must be there dead on time, or Gordon, and possibly Steve, will be hurt. Both Steve and Gordon are satisfied with the arrangement ( but not "happy" ).

Does "hurt" mean loosing their jobs or something more?

Is J dangerous in criminal way or only as a person of authority ( e.g. Gordon's and Steve's boss )?

Is the story related to TV? radio?

The place where the meeting is to take place:
auditorium / studio?
TV / radio station building?
outside the building?
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So Gordo meets with Steve face-to-face (?) Yes
and arranges Steve's meeting with J (?) NO- FA
in the place J plans to be (?) Well, yes, but there is more to this
but without J knowing about this arrangement? Yes - like I said, there is more to J's involvement than has been discovered
Steve must be there dead on time, or Gordon, and possibly Steve, will be hurt. No - If Steve is late, or on time, he is at risk for being hurt. Regardless of what time Steve arrives, there is a chance that Gordo will be hurt but his chance of this is much smaller
Both Steve and Gordon are satisfied with the arrangement ( but not "happy" ). Right

Does "hurt" mean loosing their jobs or something more? In this case it refers to injury/harm

Is J dangerous in criminal way or only as a person of authority ( e.g. Gordon's and Steve's boss )? Neither of these

Is the story related to TV? radio? Yes, related to both

The place where the meeting is to take place:
auditorium / studio? No
TV / radio station building? No
outside Yes the building? No building involved, so FA here
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do Steve or Gordo know that J will be there? do they just know that someone will be there? is someone supposed to be doing something dangerous there? a stunt? an ordinary but dangerous job? a demolition?
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do Steve or Gordo know that J will be there? Good q - yes, they both expect him to be there, but...
do they just know that someone will be there? ...this is more accurate, and they assume that it will be J
is someone supposed to be doing something dangerous there? Yes, keep reading...
a stunt? ...no, it's more like...
an ordinary but dangerous job? ...this, exactly! a demolition? No
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does J also work in tv/radio?

does his job involve risking his life? working with explosives? doing something that involves hanging over edges of buildings? is he a policeman? fire man? paramedic? or some other profession that members of the public sometimes attack?
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does J also work in tv/radio? No, and FA

does his job involve risking his life? Yes, to a degree
working with explosives? No
doing something that involves hanging over edges of buildings? No
is he a policeman? fire man? paramedic? or some other profession that members of the public sometimes attack? No, none of these
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is Js job within any of these:

Education/teaching?
medicine/health?
IT?
retail?
sales?
tradesman?
entertainer?
artist?
law?
law enforcement?
military?
bank/finance?
receptionist/office administration?
management?
transport?
construction?
farmer/fisherman?
seaman?
clown/magician?
circus artist?
postal services?
criminal?
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As with both Gordo and Steve, "entertainer" is the only thing in the above list that comes close to J's job description, but it does not fully describe what they all do.
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Are they newscasters/reporters?
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Are they newscasters/reporters? No
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so all 3 have the exact same job? I thought Gordo and Steve worked in tv/radio? would any of them stand in front of a camera? behind it? are they sound technicians? or lighting? would you hear their voices on the radio? do they ever interview people? do they do special effects? find people to interview? find locations to film from?
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so all 3 have the exact same job? Yes and no - there is a main common factor about their profession, but each man has a slightly different job...explore this
I thought Gordo and Steve worked in tv/radio? No - we have established that TV and radio are involved, but NOT that any of the characters work in this field
would any of them stand in front of a camera? Likely, at times
behind it? No
are they sound technicians? or lighting? No
would you hear their voices on the radio? Maybe, at times
do they ever interview people? No
do they do special effects? No
find people to interview? find locations to film from? No to these
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You said that their voices would be heard on the radio at times. So not every day? When you hear their voices on the radio, are they then interviewed? Are they politicians?
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You said that their voices would be heard on the radio at times. So not every day? Right...explore!
When you hear their voices on the radio, are they then interviewed? Yes - good q
Are they politicians? No
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HINT:There are still some very basic elements about the first statement in the puzzle that have not been revealed yet
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OH!!! relevant where this "Particular place" is?
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OH!!! relevant where this "Particular place" is?
Yes! That's a big part of all this, and there are even still some basic aspects, but as the place becomes clearer it should really help with other details.
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Do we have to find the spesific location geographically? or is it enough to determine type of place (like supermarket, post office, etc)?
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Is the place dangerous in itself? Or just on account of the jobs that the three men do there? If I went there alone, would I be in danger? Are TV crews always at this location? Or just at that one time? Is it an airport? Air traffic control relevant at all?
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do any of maybe do some sort of rescue work? does their work entail going abroad? maybe to places at war? to help people?
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Do we have to find the spesific location geographically? or is it enough to determine type of place (like supermarket, post office, etc)? It's good enough to find the type of place (and it's not that post office in England that some buffoons tried to rob so many years back)

Is the place dangerous in itself? No
Or just on account of the jobs that the three men do there? Ah, yes, very well worded
If I went there alone, would I be in danger? No, none, and another good q
Are TV crews always at this location? No, not always
Or just at that one time? No, not this either
Is it an airport? No
Air traffic control relevant at all? No

do any of (them) maybe do some sort of rescue work? No
does their work entail going abroad? It may, but this would be only a minor and secondary part of the job
maybe to places at war? to help people? No to these
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A circus? Tightrope walking? Knife-throwing? Anything along those lines?
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A circus? Tightrope walking? Knife-throwing? Anything along those lines? No, try another route (hint)
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Route? a motorway? A traffic junction? A railroad?
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Route? a motorway? A traffic junction? A railroad? None of these
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route as in maybe a delivery route? postman?
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route as in maybe a delivery route? postman? No, not this direction either
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A route as in the best way to get from A to B? Do they advise people which route to take to get somewhere?
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A route as in the best way to get from A to B? well maybe not the best, but a route nonetheless
Do they advise people which route to take to get somewhere? Yes, one of them does (good q)
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Have another question about the first post! Did he almost lose his job because he was fired? because he died? Did he pick the worst route to get to that place, and died on a cliff?
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Have another question about the first post! Did he almost lose his job because he was fired? Well, the statement says that Gordo could lose his job, and yes, it would be because he would get fired
because he died? No
Did he pick the worst route to get to that place, and died on a cliff? No, still not the right type of "route"
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something like tourist information?
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Air traffic control?
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Does each of the people in this location have a particular number assigned and displayed? :]
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And does the one Steve's supposed to meet have relatively dark skin??
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quote:

Or is this a meeting between Steve and someone else? Strictly speaking no




Is J another person? Human? Adult? Male?


Assuming that he is,

Is J presumed to be the one that Steve will meet with because J is routinely in that place at that time?

Does someone else occasionally substitute for J? or is it the case that sometimes no one is in that place at that time for Steve to meet? Would that damage still occur if no one is there for Steve to meet?

The damage that J may do to Steve or Gordo if Steve is a few seconds early or late: will J intentionally seek one? or both of them out to hurt them? will the damage be unintentional? inevitable? would it occur if J is not the one Steve is early or late to meet?

Is either Steve? or Gordo a traffic copter reporter? a pilot? Is J?

Midair refueling relevant?
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RABRAB! YOU'RE BACK!!!

Yeah, he is another person. Is J their boss by any chance?
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something like tourist information? No, not involved
Air traffic control? Not this either
Does each of the people in this location have a particular number assigned and displayed? :]
Why yes, indeed they do!
And does the one Steve's supposed to meet have relatively dark skin? Color of skin does not matter

Welcome into the puzzle, Rabrab!

Is J another person? Human? Adult? Male? Yes to all of these

Assuming that he is,

Is J presumed to be the one that Steve will meet with because J is routinely in that place at that time? Yes

Does someone else occasionally substitute for J? Yes, likely
or is it the case that sometimes no one is in that place at that time for Steve to meet? Yes, this is sometimes the case
Would that damage still occur if no one is there for Steve to meet? No (good q)

The damage that J may do to Steve or Gordo not to Gordo if Steve is a few seconds early or late: will J intentionally seek one? or both of them out to hurt them? J will intentionally be seeking one of them, yes, but his primary goal is not to cause them bodily harm
will the damage be unintentional? Most of it, yes
inevitable? To a degree, yes
would it occur if J is not the one Steve is early or late to meet? GOOD Q - yes, the same chance of injury would exist if J were not the one present (but there is a bit of FA lurking)

Is either Steve? or Gordo a traffic copter reporter? a pilot? Is J? None of them

Midair refueling relevant? No
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Yeah, he is another person. Is J their boss by any chance? No
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More specifically, does the "object" of Steve's meeting have dark brown, relatively thick skin... :]

And might there be beautiful females in the vicinity who are emotionally involved in the outcome of the "meeting" ???
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More specifically, does the "object" of Steve's meeting have dark brown, relatively thick skin... :] Now I see what you were getting at - yes, this is the case

And might there be beautiful females in the vicinity who are emotionally involved in the outcome of the "meeting" ? Yeah, there probably are some of these not too far away
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Is the meeting anything to do with sports?
Are any of their jobs sports related?
If so Steve? Gordo? J?
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And are there thousands (possibly millions) of people of age ages (but primarily male?) who may be emotionally and/or financially invested in the outcome even though they don't know the participants personally?

OK I guess I'm dragging this out but it's kinda fun for a NB... :]
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Oops, people of "all" ages...
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Is the meeting anything to do with sports? Yes
Are any of their jobs sports related? Yes, all of them

And are there thousands (possibly millions) of people of age ages (but primarily male?) who may be emotionally and/or financially invested in the outcome even though they don't know the participants personally? Certainly, and of more importance are the ones who DO know the participants (at least two of them) personally

If it's now obvious to everyone I'll drop the solution, but if anyone hasn't guessed it yet I'll leave it open for just a short while longer
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** SPOILER **

This puzzle describes a football play. Gordo, the quarterback, sets up a play in which the plan is to pass the ball to Steve, who will hopefully run the correct route and be in place to catch the ball. Otherwise J, who is covering Steve, could intercept the ball. Gordo has had problems lately and the interception could be the final straw and he could lose his job on the team.
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Slick one, Ixoye. And thanks for the welcome back. It's good to be here...

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