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The five of them, and a man, didn't give him too much.
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were the first "five": human, adult, males?
was the middle "man"=human, adult, male?
"him"=human? adult? if not adult--0-5? 6-12? 13-18?

did the latter "him" ask the six for something?
did they give him something as in money? advice?
what they did give him: was it good? bad?
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were the first "five": human, adult, males? No to all
was the middle "man"=human, adult, male? Noish to all
"him"=human? Yes adult? Yes

did the latter "him" ask the six for something? No
did they give him something as in money? Yesish advice? No what they did give him: was it good? Yesish bad? Noish
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The five = animals? characters from a comic strip, book or similar? are they clues to something? mathematical symbols? theories?
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is the "man" some sort of mannequin? a fictional character?
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Were they H? A? M? Only five?
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The five = animals? Yes characters from a comic strip, book or similar? Noish are they clues to something? No mathematical symbols? No theories? No
is the "man" some sort of mannequin? Noish a fictional character? yesish
Were they H? A? M? Only five? Huh?
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is the human a writer? illustrator? film maker? cartoon maker? anything to do with the film industry at all? or comics? or newspapers? or books?
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is the human a writer? illustrator? film maker? cartoon maker? None of those
anything to do with the film industry at all? or comics? or newspapers? or books? None of those
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Are the "five" the same type of animal? Are they realistic? Do they have human abilities? Such as speech? Logical/intelligent thought? Clothing? Possessions?

Did he kill any of the animals? Sell any of the animals? For money?
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Are the "five" the same type of animal? No Are they realistic? No Do they have human abilities? Irr

Did he kill any of the animals? No Sell any of the animals? No For money? No
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Is this a legend, fantacy, or a fairy tale?

Was the "man" a wizard, sage, or anyone similar?
Do animals belong to this "man"?

Did "he" meet all the other characters together? one at a time? over the length of his journey?
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are the animals real life animals? in other words do they/could they exist or are they only drawn animals?

do we need to know what animals they all are? are they 5 different ones?
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Is this a legend, fantacy, or a fairy tale? No

Was the "man" a wizard, sage, or anyone similar? No
Do animals belong to this "man"? Noish

Did "he" meet all the other characters together? FA one at a time? FA over the length of his journey? FA

are the animals real life animals? Yope in other words do they/could they exist or are they only drawn animals?

do we need to know what animals they all are? No are they 5 different ones? Yes but irr

Small correction: The five = animals? yesish
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The FA is clearly that "He" Never ever met them. Give: to donate to someone? Were the animals used in any way to get money? manure?
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The FA is clearly that "He" Never ever met them. Give: to donate to someone? No Were the animals used in any way to get money? Yes manure? No

HINT: The animals (and a man) are inanimate beings).
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Are these animals part of a fountain group? other sculptures? paintings?
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Are these animals part of a fountain group? No other sculptures? Noish paintings? No
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Are these animals charms? jewlery? animal crackers?
Did "he" invent the animals?
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Were the animals and person sponsors for a company or something? Could this very well happen with 4 animals, 5 men, or 6 space aliens? :-)
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Are these animals charms? Uh, what? jewlery? No animal crackers? ?<b>no</b.
Did "he" invent the animals? Yope
Were the animals and person sponsors for a company or something? No Could this very well happen with 4 animals, 5 men, or 6 space aliens? :-) Probably yes
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From the abovequestions, I am now guessing that they are in a picture. Is "Him" an artist?
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From the abovequestions, I am now guessing that they are in a picture. No Is "Him" an artist? Yes
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You said "noish" to the fact that they were sculptures--
could they possibly be clay figures? claymation?

were they action figures?

did they not "give" him much in the sense that they were not flexible/bendable? did they not give him the movement he wanted?
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You said "noish" to the fact that they were sculptures--
could they possibly be clay figures? claymation? No to both

were they action figures? No

did they not "give" him much in the sense that they were not flexible/bendable? did they not give him the movement he wanted? No to both
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HINT: The five of them are mascots. The one man is a picture. "Him" is the creator of the six
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Were the 5 mascots giving the man advertisement? Were people paying to look at the man or the mascots?
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Were the 5 mascots giving the man advertisement? Were people paying to look at the man or the mascots? None of the both
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mascots for a sports team? same sports team or different? all same type of mascot or different?

man's picture--photograph? drawing? caricature?
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Heh, can't believe I didn't ask htis yet!! Are the things sculptures? Ice or rock ones? Did people buy the things? At the end of the puzzles, did He still have the 6?
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mascots for a sports team? No, but you;re on the good track same sports team or different? No all same type of mascot or different? <b>What do you mean, 'the same type'?"

man's picture--photograph? drawing? This one caricature?
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Heh, can't believe I didn't ask htis yet!! Yesish Are the things sculptures? No Ice or rock ones? No Did people buy the things? No At the end of the puzzles, did He still have the 6? not really
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Mascots for a sports team? Relevant what sport? Relevant if the team was playing indoors or out or has to uy tickets? Did people see the mascots, then decided not to go watch the game? Are they machenical?
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Mascots for a sports team? No Relevant what sport? Many kinds Relevant if the team was playing indoors or out or has to uy tickets? No Did people see the mascots, then decided not to go watch the game? No Are they machenical? No
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Mascots for Olimpic Games?
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Mascots for Olimpic Games? YES!
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Olympics?? Are the animals capable of moving? Did they not cheer the winning athlete very much?
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Were his designs rejected, so he did not get paid?
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Olympics?? !! Are the animals capable of moving? No Did they not cheer the winning athlete very much? No
Were his designs rejected, so he did not get paid? No
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Do the five mascots have anything to do with the olympics rings? the fact that they look like zeroes?

is this fyoi, or did this really happen? if it happened, important which olympics? summer? winter? important which country hosted?
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Do the five mascots have anything to do with the olympics rings? the fact that they look like zeroes? Irr to both

is this fyoi, or did this really happen? it really happened if it happened, important which olympics? Yope
summer? Yes winter? No
important which country hosted? Yope
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important which country hosted? Yope and FA
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FA?? Was this a non hosted olympics? Was it hosted in Athens?
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Is this referring to Olympics which haven't happened yet? 2008? 2012? (there was a petition going up to get them to change the recently unveiled London Olympics logo, is this relevant?)
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FA?? Yes Was this a non hosted olympics? No/FA Was it hosted in Athens? No/FA
Is this referring to Olympics which haven't happened yet? Yes 2008? This 2012? (there was a petition going up to get them to change the recently unveiled London Olympics logo, is this relevant?) No
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Relevant which country WILL host it? Are the shapes of the animals shaped like countries?
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Relevant which country WILL host it? Not really Are the shapes of the animals shaped like countries? No
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Summer or winter?
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important what material these mascots are made out of? paper? wood? foam? fabrics?

did each mascot represent a continent?

by the way--are these these types of mascots the type that people get inside, or are they standalone mascots--if standalone, were they held up by anything? strings? dowels? or did they stand on their own.

were they larger than 6 feet? smaller than 3 feet?

had the man created the mascots in their full version, or did he simply have a rendering of them--smaller form or drawing to show a committee? were they going to use these mascots for the future olympics, or did was it decided not to use the mascots after the mascots they had been created?

do we still need to figure out who "him" was--in the drawing? real or fictional person? was it someone famous? an actor? a sports hero? someone who had competed in a previous olympics? was to compete in the olympics in 2008? and maybe isn't anymore? if he was to compete/ or has, important which sport? was it a sports commentator? a president of a country--or equivalent?

if "him" is a drawing of a real person, is he from n. america? s. america? europe? asia? australia? africa?

was the drawing realistic? was it a caricature? did it poke fun at a person?
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Summer Yes or winter?

important what material these mascots are made out of? No paper? wood? foam? fabrics? Irr

did each mascot represent a continent? Irr

by the way--are these these types of mascots the type that people get inside, or are they standalone mascots Yes--if standalone, were they held up by anything? No strings? dowels? or did they stand on their own. Yes but irr

were they larger than 6 feet? Yes smaller than 3 feet? Yes

had the man created the mascots in their full version, or did he simply have a rendering of them--smaller form or drawing to show a committee? No, he made them right away were they going to use these mascots for the future olympics, This or did was it decided not to use the mascots after the mascots they had been created?

do we still need to figure out who "him" was--in the drawing? No real or fictional person? Fictional, I guess... was it someone famous? an actor? a sports hero? someone who had competed in a previous olympics? was to compete in the olympics in 2008? and maybe isn't anymore? if he was to compete/ or has, important which sport? was it a sports commentator? a president of a country--or equivalent? None of those

if "him" is a drawing of a real person, No is he from n. america? s. america? europe? asia? australia? africa?

was the drawing realistic? No was it a caricature? No did it poke fun at a person? No
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ok, just remembered that the five mascots were animals, correct (as posted on May 24)? wa s each mascot a different animal? important which animals? domestic--cow, horse, sheep, cat, fish... wild--tiger, lion, bear... aquatic--seal, whale...

so, all five are different sizes? important to try to figure out how tall each was?

do we need to figure out any more about the "him" in the drawing, other than it was a drawing of a fictional person?

do we need to figure out any more about the man, other than that he was the creator of these five animal mascots and the drawing of a person?

so this has to do with the 2008 summer olympics, correct? do we need to figure out any more about these olympics? This is the regular olympics, correct? it wouldn't be the special olympics by any chance?
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ok, just remembered that the five mascots were animals, correct (as posted on May 24)? Yes wa s each mascot a different animal? Yes important which animals? domestic--cow, horse, sheep, cat, fish... wild--tiger, lion, bear... aquatic--seal, whale...Irr

so, all five are different sizes? No important to try to figure out how tall each was? Not really

do we need to figure out any more about the "him" in the drawing, other than it was a drawing of a fictional person? Yes

do we need to figure out any more about the man, other than that he was the creator of these five animal mascots and the drawing of a person? Yope

so this has to do with the 2008 summer olympics, correct? Yes do we need to figure out any more about these olympics? Not really This is the regular olympics, correct? Yes it wouldn't be the special olympics by any chance? No
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HINT: He made both the mascots and the 'man'.
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 3:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"didn't give him too much"
means just enough?
not enough?
was this contrary to his expectations?

too much $? prestige? recognition? press?
he "created" all these renderings, yet he is not an artist?
the man was depicted as a silhouette? or recognizable features? headshot? full body? neither?
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Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 5:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"didn't give him too much"
means just enough? Not really
not enough? This is closer
was this contrary to his expectations? Maybe

too much $? This prestige? recognition? press? The rest probably could apply too
he "created" all these renderings, yet he is not an artist? He is an artist
the man was depicted as a silhouette? <byes</b> or recognizable features? No headshot? full body? This neither?
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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was he hired by the IOC?
were the mascots for international use?
one nation?
is there a symbolic relationship between mascots and the silhouette?
relevant to explore the appearance of silhouette?
were the images intended for something and then the plan was dropped? the plan was changed?
was he competing with other renderings from other artists?
is there a political factor here?
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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was he hired by the IOC? No
were the mascots for international use? No
one nation? Yes
is there a symbolic relationship between mascots and the silhouette? No
relevant to explore the appearance of silhouette? No
were the images intended for something and then the plan was dropped? No the plan was changed? No
was he competing with other renderings from other artists? No
is there a political factor here? Noish
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Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 6:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so, "he" created 5 animal mascots and a full-size silhouette of a man for a future olympics...and he was not given enough money for them...

Did he think he was going to get more money? Was he promised a certain amount of money and it was lowered after seeing the final version? was there not enough money in the budget to pay "him" what was promised?

was there something about the man and the mascots that the committee (is it relevant who makes decisions on the mascots and man regarding pay) did not like? did "he" deliver what he promised? was there something about "him" that the decision-makers not like?
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Posted on Sunday, June 24, 2007 - 4:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so, "he" created 5 animal mascots Yes and a full-size No silhouette of a man for a future olympics...and he was not given enough money for them... Yes

Did he think he was going to get more money? Maybe Was he promised a certain amount of money and it was lowered after seeing the final version? Maybe was there not enough money in the budget to pay "him" what was promised? Maybe

was there something about the man and the mascots that the committee (is it relevant who makes decisions on the mascots and man regarding pay) did not like? No did "he" deliver what he promised? Yes was there something about "him" that the decision-makers not like? No

***SPOILER***

"Han Meilin, the 70-year-old man who led the teams that designed the 2008 Beijing Olympic logo, as well as the five mascots: a fish, a panda, a Tibetan antelope, a swallow and a 'child of fire', received less than $0.13 (1 Yuan) for his work. But Meilin, who also sculpts and paints, seems undaunted. 'A little misfortune is not a bad thing,' he said. Who will get all the money from merchandise sales is yet to be decided, but it won't be Meilin."

Full story here: http://www.logodesign.com/logo_design/2006/11/27/olympic-logo-designer-paid-13-cents-for-his-work/
(and fuller here: http://photos1.blogger.com/photoInclude/x/blogger2/2484/4364/1600/485058/fuwadesigner.jpg)

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