| Author | Message | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2007 |
Be nice, this is my first try at making a lateral puzzle. A dead man chooses one he doesn't know. | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 59 Registered: 3-2006 |
Welcome - congrats, I haven't even tried to make a puzzle yet. And now on to your puzzle: Does "one" refer to a person? animal? thing? idea? will? Did the dead man choose before he died? Does the choice he made have anything to do with his death? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 292 Registered: 9-2003 |
any other significant people? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? any jobs relevant? any crimes? | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 642 Registered: 9-2006 |
Does the man make a will? Does the will contain a person that the man didn't know? Does the man know that he doesn't know this person? Does he think that he knows this person, but he doesn't? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 7 Registered: 3-2007 |
Does "one" refer to a person?Yes animal? thing? idea? will? So no to rest Did the dead man choose before he died?Yes Does the choice he made have anything to do with his death?No any other significant people?Yes 1?This one 2? 3? 4? 5? any jobs relevant?No any crimes?No Does the man make a will?Yes Does the will contain a person that the man didn't know?No Does the man know that he doesn't know this person?Yes Does he think that he knows this person, but he doesn't?No | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 65 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was this other person related to the dead man? A relative he never met? Was this other person in his will? | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 645 Registered: 9-2006 |
Does the dead man "give" (sorry, I forgot the exact word) something in his will to the unknown man? The dead man: human? adult (when they died)? male? The unknown person: human? adult? male? The other person: human? adult? male? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 9 Registered: 3-2007 |
Was this other person related to the dead man?Yes A relative he never met?No Was this other person in his will?Yes Does the dead man "give" (sorry, I forgot the exact word) something in his will to the unknown man?Yes The dead man: human? adult (when they died)? male?Yes to all The unknown person: human? adult? male?Yes to all The other person: human?Yes adult?Yes male?No | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 527 Registered: 3-2006 |
So Mr Dead has bequeathed something to a person related to him, yes? And he has met this relative, but does not know him/her? Is the relative male? Female? His offspring? Grandchild? Someone estranged at birth, perhaps? Does it matter what he leaves in his will? Money? A particular item? A debt? His entire estate? Some sort of instructions? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 10 Registered: 3-2007 |
So Mr Dead has bequeathed something to a person related to him, yes?No, to the other person And he has met this relative, but does not know him/her?He knows the relative, but not the other person Is the relative male?No Female?Yes His offspring?Yes Grandchild? Someone estranged at birth, perhaps? No to rest Does it matter what he leaves in his will? Yes Money?No A particular item?Kind of, in a manner of speaking . . . A debt?No His entire estate?Yesish Some sort of instructions?Yes Just to clarify, He knows the relative, but chooses the other person mentioned in the puzzle. | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 648 Registered: 9-2006 |
I'm confused... Can we call the dead man "Nick"? Can we call the unknown man "Barney"? Can we call the other person "Claire"? Is Claire Nick's relative? daughter? Is Barney Nick's relative? Does he leave something which can hurt the receiver? Does Claire know Barney? If Nick gave "it" to Claire, would she get hurt in any way? | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 67 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the other person the "executor" of the estate? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2007 |
I'm confused... Can we call the dead man "Nick"? Sure Can we call the unknown man "Barney"? Why not? Can we call the other person "Claire"? OK Is Claire Nick's relative? daughter? Yes to both Is Barney Nick's relative? Noish Does he leave something which can hurt the receiver? No Does Claire know Barney? Specify when If Nick gave "it" to Claire, would she get hurt in any way?He couldn't give 'it' to Claire, so irrelevant Is the other person the "executor" of the estate?irrelevant | ||
| Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo)
New member Username: Strongplacebo Post Number: 75 Registered: 10-2005 |
Is there a reason he couldn't give 'it' to a female? Or just Claire specifically? Is she too young? Does Claire know Barney before Nick dies? Or after, only? Does Barney receive 'it' due to an error? A typo in the will?? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 12 Registered: 3-2007 |
Is there a reason he couldn't give 'it' to a female?Yes Or just Claire specifically?That too Is she too young? No Does Claire know Barney before Nick dies?No Or after, only? Yes Does Barney receive 'it' due to an error? A typo in the will?? No | ||
| Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)
New member Username: Blazingphoenix Post Number: 86 Registered: 2-2007 |
Is the era important? Was it in a time/place where women could not inherit the man's stuff? hiya Danaria! ^__^ | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 13 Registered: 3-2007 |
Is the era important?Yes Was it in a time/place where women could not inherit the man's stuff?Irellevent, | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 80 Registered: 11-2003 |
Does it happen in the 20th century? 19th? Before the 19th century? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 14 Registered: 3-2007 |
Does it happen in the 20th century?No 19th?No Before the 19th century?Yes | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 654 Registered: 9-2006 |
18th century? 17th? 16th? 15th? 14th? 13th? 12th? 11th? 10th? 9th? 8th? 7th? 6th? 5th? 4th? 3rd? 2nd? 1st? Earlier? Relevant where it happens? Did Nick want Barney to give IT to Claire? Is the inheritance a set of instructions to find something? An item? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 305 Registered: 9-2003 |
would it be completely impossible to give to a female? or would it be considered wrong? immoral? does he want his daughter to marry the man? does he give him her hand in marriage? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 15 Registered: 3-2007 |
18th century? 17th? 16th? 15th? 14th? 13th? 12th? 11th? 10th? 9th? 8th? 7th? 6th? 5th? 4th? 3rd? 2nd? 1st? Earlier? I don't know the exact century. I think it's somewhere around the 15th-16th. Relevant where it happens? It could happen in several places, but not all would work. Did Nick want Barney to give IT to Claire? No Is the inheritance a set of instructions to find something?Yesish An item?Not really would it be completely impossible to give to a female?Yesish or would it be considered wrong?Yes immoral?Yes does he want his daughter to marry the man?YES!!! does he give him her hand in marriageYES!!! There's still something left to figure out though. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 313 Registered: 9-2003 |
does she want to marry him? if her father had tried to give her hand away before he died would she have refused? or objected? been annoyed at him? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 16 Registered: 3-2007 |
does she want to marry him?Yes, but irrelevant if her father had tried to give her hand away before he died would she have refused?No or objected?No been annoyed at him?No | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 666 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did Nick want to prevent someone from preventing the marriage? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 17 Registered: 3-2007 |
Did Nick want to prevent someone from preventing the marriage?Irrelevent | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 317 Registered: 9-2003 |
did the man want to marry her? would he have turned her down if offered her hand whilst her father was alive? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 18 Registered: 3-2007 |
did the man want to marry her?Yes would he have turned her down if offered her hand whilst her father was alive?No | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2007 |
What you still need to find out is HOW he chose this man for his daughter if he didn't know him. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 327 Registered: 9-2003 |
did the daughter know the man before hand? did someone the father knew, know the man? did someone recommend this man? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 21 Registered: 3-2007 |
did the daughter know the man before hand?No did someone the father knew, know the man?No did someone recommend this man?No, the father had no connection to this man whatsoever. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 338 Registered: 9-2003 |
did the father specifically mention this man? by name? or did he say something more vague? like give her hand to the first man she meets? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 22 Registered: 3-2007 |
did the father specifically mention this man? Not specifically by name? No or did he say something more vague? Can you be more specific...? like give her hand to the first man she meets? No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 346 Registered: 9-2003 |
I was thinking something like he was giving her hand to the richest man at the moment he dies? or maybe the man with the most lands? or the biggest house? or to someone who had the same surname as he did so the family name would continue? i.e. something vague that just happened to be this man who met the criteria | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2007 |
I was thinking something like he was giving her hand to the richest man at the moment he dies? or maybe the man with the most lands? or the biggest house? or to someone who had the same surname as he did so the family name would continue? All good guesses on the right track, for the most part, but still all no. i.e. something vague that just happened to be this man who met the criteria Not quite | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 353 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he just want her to marry into a specific family? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 24 Registered: 3-2007 |
did he just want her to marry into a specific family? No | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was he the only man she could have married under the circumstances? Or did she have any choice? If there happened to be another man with the same characteristics as this man, could she have married him instead? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 27 Registered: 3-2007 |
Was he the only man she could have married under the circumstances? Yesish Or did she have any choice? No If there happened to be another man with the same characteristics as this man, could she have married him instead?Please specify | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2007 |
Ok, well say the man had an identical twin brother, who looked the same, was from the same family, was in the same financial situation etc etc...could the girl have married either of them? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 29 Registered: 3-2007 |
Ok, well say the man had an identical twin brother, who looked the same, was from the same family, was in the same financial situation etc etc...could the girl have married either of them? Noish... | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 359 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok hmm did it have to be the man because of something to do with his name? amount of money? position in the community? job? title? appearance? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 34 Registered: 3-2007 |
ok hmm did it have to be the man because of something to do with his name? No amount of money? No position in the community? No job? No title? No appearance? No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 366 Registered: 9-2003 |
hmm something to do with a hobby of his? something in his personal life? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 36 Registered: 3-2007 |
hmm something to do with a hobby of his? something in his personal life? Whose? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 372 Registered: 9-2003 |
anyones! was the husband picked because of something to do with a hobby of his? something in his personal life? did the father pick him because of something to do with a hobby of his own? something in his own personal life? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 38 Registered: 3-2007 |
anyones! was the husband picked because of something to do with a hobby of his? No something in his personal life? Yesish... did the father pick him because of something to do with a hobby of his own? No something in his own personal life? No | ||
| Thestreetdetective (Thestreetdetective)
New member Username: Thestreetdetective Post Number: 57 Registered: 3-2007 |
long shot: Did the man leave in his will something for a son whom he put up for adoption or whatever and lost contact with him but he knew that one day his son would find who his father was so he put him in the will. Even though he is his son he doesn't "know" who is he. Im probably wrong. | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 41 Registered: 3-2007 |
long shot: Did the man leave in his will something for a son whom he put up for adoption or whatever and lost contact with him but he knew that one day his son would find who his father was so he put him in the will. Even though he is his son he doesn't "know" who is he. Im probably wrong. Sorry, that's not it. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 380 Registered: 9-2003 |
are any of these aspects of the husbands personal life relevant: previous relationship? previously married? friends? relations? pets? age? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 43 Registered: 3-2007 |
are any of these aspects of the husbands personal life relevant: previous relationship? previously married? friends? relations? pets? age? Sorry, none of these. The man's personal life is not incredibly important to this puzzle. You would be better off trying to find out HOW the dead man chose him. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 113 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did the dead man select him in some random way? Like picking a name out of a hat? Did he know anything about the man he chose? Was it pure chance that this man was selcted to marry the daughter? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 45 Registered: 3-2007 |
Did the dead man select him in some random way? Yope Like picking a name out of a hat? No Did he know anything about the man he chose? No Was it pure chance that this man was selcted to marry the daughter? No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was there a condition that a man who exhibits certain characteristic, performs a heroic action ( like killing a dragon ) or wins a competition will merry the woman? Are families involved of the same social class? High? Low? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 46 Registered: 3-2007 |
Was there a condition that a man who exhibits certain characteristic, performs a heroic action ( like killing a dragon ) or wins a competition YES! will merry the woman? Are families involved of the same social class? High? Low? Irrelevent | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 124 Registered: 4-2007 |
OK, so he won a competition? Was it a test of skill? Bravery? Luck? Was he competing against other people for the daughter's hand in marriage? Was the competition arranged by the man to decide who married his daughter? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 47 Registered: 3-2007 |
OK, so he won a competition? Of a kind Was it a test of skill? Bravery? Luck? None of the above Was he competing against other people for the daughter's hand in marriage? Yes Was the competition arranged by the man to decide who married his daughter? Yes | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 125 Registered: 4-2007 |
A test of strength? A race of some kind? Test of speed? In order to win the daughter's hand, did he do something faster than his opponents? better than them? Did he kill them? Or defeat them in a face to face fight of some kind? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 48 Registered: 3-2007 |
A test of strength? A race of some kind? Test of speed? In order to win the daughter's hand, did he do something faster than his opponents? better than them? Yesish... Did he kill them? Or defeat them in a face to face fight of some kind? None of these | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 160 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did he have to use a weapon at all? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 390 Registered: 10-2004 |
Hi all. It has been a long time... It has been established that Claire did not know of Barry before the will, but did Barry know of Claire? Was Nick a person of power, say, a king, and Claire a princess of sorts? Perhaps even his only heir, and consequently, she needed a husband continue the family reign? With the competition, who chose the victor? was it established by nature, i.e last man standing? chosen by general consensus? chosen by a committee? chosen by unique criteria? chosen by Claire herself? chosen by 3rd (or 4th...) party? Was the primary objective of the competition to win Claire's hand in marriage? Or perhaps this was in fact part of the "package", so to say? Perhaps (assuming Nick was indeed a king) it was a competetion to win the crown? Did the victor have to prove himself over the other competitors, or did he have to prove himself to a 3rd party, perhaps even Claire herself? From this, did the competitors know exactly what the criteria they were being judged on was? for example, they had to in fact win Claire's heart? Did Barney do something unprecedented in order to win? (like the fosbey flop...) | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 49 Registered: 3-2007 |
Did he have to use a weapon at all? No Hi all. It has been a long time... It has been established that Claire did not know of Barry before the will, but did Barry know of Claire? Yes Was Nick a person of power Yesish, say, a king, and Claire a princess of sorts? But not these Perhaps even his only heir Yes, and consequently, she needed a husband continue the family reign? Yesish... With the competition, who chose the victor? was it established by nature ???, i.e last man standing? chosen by general consensus? chosen by a committee? chosen by unique criteria? Can you clarify this one? chosen by Claire herself? chosen by 3rd (or 4th...) party? None of the rest of these Was the primary objective of the competition to win Claire's hand in marriage? Yes Or perhaps this was in fact part of the "package", so to say? No Perhaps (assuming Nick was indeed a king) it was a competetion to win the crown? No Did the victor have to prove himself over the other competitors, or did he have to prove himself to a 3rd party, perhaps even Claire herself? I'm not entirely sure what you mean. From this, did the competitors know exactly what the criteria they were being judged on was? for example, they had to in fact win Claire's heart? I think the answer to this one is yes... Did Barney do something unprecedented in order to win? (like the fosbey flop...) ? All very good questions, but I didn't understand what you meant on some of them. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 58 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was the competition physical? mental (as in chess or riddles)? artistic? Was the judgment quantifiable? objective? subjective? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 391 Registered: 10-2004 |
to clarify: Established by nature would refer to the victor being unquestionable, as all others would have been ruled out or eliminated in some way throughout the competition, intrinsic to the nature of the competition. Examples of which: Boxing; Chess, in fact most two person board games; drinking games (shotting);Russian Roulette... Chosen by unique criteria refers to that the person who wins has something unique to himself that no-one else has that defines his position. Extreme examples refer to birthmarks, or mutations. Also in this catagory would be physical attributes such as height, weight, possesions or gifts granted by divinity. Whether the victor had to prove himself over the others as opposed to a third party or Claire herself refers to whether the victor just had to beat all the other potentials in the competition alone, or whether he was judged on his performance against someone not competing in the competition (i.e whoever slays the dragon; can beat a particular chess master in the least amount of moves; that sort of thing) Judged by Claire would indicate that the person who marries her would be the one who impresses her the most in the competition. Something Unprecedented refers to something out of left field or thinking "laterally" about the competition and winning by doing something no-one else tried before. The Fosbury Flop is a famous historical example of this when Dick Fosbury jumped the high jump backwards instead of forwards and acheived a height never before possible. (this, I find out while learning how to spell his name properly, is becase - properly executed - you can clear the bar whilst your centre of gravity does not) Having said all that... Did the competition have anything relevant to do with Nick's position in society? Was the competition related to anything relevant at the time? Or was it just a general competition; it's only relevance being that Nick chose that particular one as a way of selecting Claire's husband? Did the will actually mention a competition, or was a competition necessary in evaluating the criterion in which the selection process was to be formed? (i.e I bequeath my daughter Claire's hand in marriage to the fastest man in the land.) | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 50 Registered: 3-2007 |
Was the competition physical? No mental Yesish (as in chess or riddles) But not like these? artistic? No Was the judgment quantifiable? No objective? Yes subjective? No to clarify: Established by nature would refer to the victor being unquestionable, as all others would have been ruled out or eliminated in some way throughout the competition, intrinsic to the nature of the competition. Examples of which: Boxing; Chess, in fact most two person board games; drinking games (shotting);Russian Roulette... In that case, yes, it is established by nature. Chosen by unique criteria refers to that the person who wins has something unique to himself that no-one else has that defines his position. Extreme examples refer to birthmarks, or mutations. Also in this catagory would be physical attributes such as height, weight, possesions or gifts granted by divinity. Then, no to this question. Whether the victor had to prove himself over the others as opposed to a third party or Claire herself refers to whether the victor just had to beat all the other potentials in the competition alone, Yes or whether he was judged on his performance against someone not competing in the competition (i.e whoever slays the dragon; can beat a particular chess master in the least amount of moves; that sort of thing) Not like that Judged by Claire would indicate that the person who marries her would be the one who impresses her the most in the competition. Not this either Something Unprecedented refers to something out of left field or thinking "laterally" about the competition and winning by doing something no-one else tried before. The Fosbury Flop is a famous historical example of this when Dick Fosbury jumped the high jump backwards instead of forwards and acheived a height never before possible. (this, I find out while learning how to spell his name properly, is becase - properly executed - you can clear the bar whilst your centre of gravity does not) Then no to this question as well. Having said all that... Did the competition have anything relevant to do with Nick's position in society? No Was the competition related to anything relevant at the time? Not really Or was it just a general competition; it's only relevance being that Nick chose that particular one as a way of selecting Claire's husband? Not this either Did the will actually mention a competition, Yes or was a competition necessary in evaluating the criterion in which the selection process was to be formed? (i.e I bequeath my daughter Claire's hand in marriage to the fastest man in the land.) No Thanks so much for your excellent clarifications. You are getting very close. | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 392 Registered: 10-2004 |
a maze? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 53 Registered: 3-2007 |
a maze? Sorry, but no | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 78 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did the competition involve: solving a real-life problem? providing the best judgment for a dilemma or court case? memorizing something? hypnotizing opponents ( or an animal, snake )? explaining or predicting natural phenomenon? arguing a point, debating, negotiating? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 398 Registered: 9-2003 |
did it involve winning her heart? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 54 Registered: 3-2007 |
Did the competition involve: solving a real-life problem? Like...? providing the best judgment for a dilemma or court case? I think it's yes to this one, but please clarify to be safe. memorizing something? No hypnotizing opponents ( or an animal, snake )? No explaining or predicting natural phenomenon? No arguing a point, debating, negotiating? did it involve winning her heart?No to rest | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 260 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did he have to judge a court case? Decide whether someone was guilty? Was he faced with more than one person and he had to decide which was guilty? Did he have to make a choice of some kind? If so, was there a "right" choice and whoever made this choice would win? Did he have to solve a puzzle? Crack a code? Solve a problem? Did the competition benefit the dead man or his family in another way than just selecting a husband for his daughter? (eg if the man needed his house cleaned, and he gave his daughter to whoever did the best job of cleaning it...) | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 55 Registered: 3-2007 |
Did he have to judge a court case? Decide whether someone was guilty? Was he faced with more than one person and he had to decide which was guilty? No to all Did he have to make a choice of some kind? Yes If so, was there a "right" choice and whoever made this choice would win? Yes Did he have to solve a puzzle? Crack a code? Solve a problem? No to all Did the competition benefit the dead man or his family in another way than just selecting a husband for his daughter? (eg if the man needed his house cleaned, and he gave his daughter to whoever did the best job of cleaning it...) No, but good questions! | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 421 Registered: 9-2003 |
was the choice he made to do with choosing between only 2 things? or between 3? more? did he have to choose between different people? ideas? objects? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 56 Registered: 3-2007 |
was the choice he made to do with choosing between only 2 things? or between 3? This one more? did he have to choose between different people? ideas? This objects? And this too | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 99 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was choosing "the right path", figuratively and, perhaps, literally, what the contender had to do? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 428 Registered: 9-2003 |
anything to do with a new invention? were 3 objects set out in front of him? could he do all the choosing in one room? or did he have to go off and find the objects? or find information? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 57 Registered: 3-2007 |
Was choosing "the right path", figuratively and, perhaps, literally, what the contender had to do? Figurativly, yes anything to do with a new invention? Sorry, but no were 3 objects set out in front of him? Yes could he do all the choosing in one room? Yes or did he have to go off and find the objects? or find information? so no to rest | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 285 Registered: 4-2007 |
Were they 3 similar objects and he had to choose the one he thought was best? Or did he simply have to choose one of them based on nothing but chance, and whoever got it right won the girl? Were the objects completely different from one another? Did he have to correctly identify something? Was the thing he had to choose anything to do with the wedding (eg choosing a ring)? Or to do wth the girl (such as recognising her from a lineup of similar girls)? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 58 Registered: 3-2007 |
Were they 3 similar objects and he had to choose the one he thought was best? Yes Or did he simply have to choose one of them based on nothing but chance, and whoever got it right won the girl? No Were the objects completely different from one another? Noish Did he have to correctly identify something? No Was the thing he had to choose anything to do with the wedding (eg choosing a ring)? Or to do wth the girl (such as recognising her from a lineup of similar girls)? No to both | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 452 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok were the objects all a similar size? are they (or any of them) larger than a book? computer? car? are any of them made of metal? stone? wood? cloth? are they natual objects? or man made? are the a specific shape? cube? cuboid? spehere? pyramid? a prism? a mixture of any of these? are they hard? soft? bouncy? would they break if you dropped them? could they hurt someone? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 59 Registered: 3-2007 |
ok were the objects all a similar size? Yes are they (or any of them) larger than a book? Yes, all computer? car? No and no are any of them made of metal? Yes stone? wood? cloth? None of the rest are they natual objects? or man made? Man made are the a specific shape? Yes cube? cuboid? What's that? spehere? pyramid? a prism? This one's closest a mixture of any of these? are they hard? Yes soft? bouncy? would they break if you dropped them? No could they hurt someone? How do you mean? If they fell on you, definatly | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 307 Registered: 4-2007 |
A cuboid is just a box shape, or a rectangular prism. Had the people setting the test already decided which one was the best, and whoever chose this one would win? Was the purpose of this test to judge the contestant's knowledge about something? To decide which would make the most fitting husband for the girl? Did the 3 objects all serv the same purpose? Were they all the same size? Could you easily distinguish between them just by looking? Were they all made by the same person? Different people? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 156 Registered: 4-2007 |
could you open up the object? was there something inside? maybe a diamond engagement ring? did Barney pick the object by luck, or was he able to figure out which one to pick? were there just three men choosing the object, or more? once the correct object was chosen, was the contest over? meaning, could there have been others that might have selected the correct object, but since Barney had already selected it, he was the winner? can't remember--is this based on anything? if so, is it based on a fairy tale? did Nick know any of the men who were vying for his daughter's hand? or was this maybe a proclamation sent across the land--"win this contest and win my daughter's hand" type thing and whoever showed up tried to win her hand? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 60 Registered: 3-2007 |
A cuboid is just a box shape, or a rectangular prism. Then Yes Had the people setting the test already decided which one was the best, and whoever chose this one would win? Yes Was the purpose of this test to judge the contestant's knowledge about something? No To decide which would make the most fitting husband for the girl? Yes Did the 3 objects all serv the same purpose? Yes Were they all the same size? Yes Could you easily distinguish between them just by looking? Yes Were they all made by the same person? Different people? Irr could you open up the object? Yes was there something inside? Yes maybe a diamond engagement ring? But not this did Barney pick the object by luck, or was he able to figure out which one to pick? This one were there just three men choosing the object, or more? Just Three once the correct object was chosen, was the contest over? Yes meaning, could there have been others that might have selected the correct object, but since Barney had already selected it, he was the winner? Exactly can't remember--is this based on anything? That's because no one asked. I did base this on something; it might help to figure out where I got the idea for this puzzle. if so, is it based on a fairy tale? Sorry, but no. did Nick know any of the men who were vying for his daughter's hand? or was this maybe a proclamation sent across the land--"win this contest and win my daughter's hand" type thing and whoever showed up tried to win her hand? This one's closest | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 161 Registered: 4-2007 |
There are three men and three objects from which to select. Would more objects have been provided if there were more than three men that showed up to win the daughter's hand? Inside the box: was it a piece of paper with something written on it? Was it the will? Was it something with the words, "you won" written on it? Was it another object? Did the men have to choose whichever box they first picked, or were they able to look inside first and then decide whether or not to select the box? If the former, did Barney know he had won as soon as he opened up the box? Was Barney the first, second, or third man to select the boxes? did you get the idea for this puzzle from: a book? television? comics? radio? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 471 Registered: 9-2003 |
were all 3 objects boxes? or in the boxes? if they couldn't open the boxes before deciding were the boxes made of different materials? have different colours? patterns? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 61 Registered: 3-2007 |
There are three men and three objects from which to select. Correct Would more objects have been provided if there were more than three men that showed up to win the daughter's hand? No; the number of men just happened to be the same as the number of objects. Inside the box: was it a piece of paper with something written on it? Yesish Was it the will? No Was it something with the words, "you won" written on it? No Was it another object? Yes Did the men have to choose whichever box they first picked, or were they able to look inside first and then decide whether or not to select the box? They had to stick with the box they picked first, but there's more to it than that. If the former, did Barney know he had won as soon as he opened up the box? Yes Was Barney the first, second, or third man to select the boxes? Third did you get the idea for this puzzle from: a book? television? comics? radio? Surprisingly, none of the above were all 3 objects boxes? Yes or in the boxes? So no if they couldn't open the boxes before deciding were the boxes made of different materials? Yes have different colours? patterns? No to the rest, but there's something more to distinguish them from one another | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 476 Registered: 9-2003 |
so just to double check, they weren't allowed to look in the box? they just had to go by the outside appearance of the box? was anything written on the box? or any explanation for each box given? did they have to figure out how to open the boxes? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 315 Registered: 4-2007 |
Were the men given any information to help then decide on the right box? Would choosing the right box show them to have some quality desirable in a husband? Did anything bad happen to the men who chose wrongly (other than losing out on the chance to marry the girl)? Did each box have the same thing inside it? Similar things? Paper with different things written on them? Was one of the boxes (the one Barney chose) the best, then another one was second best and the last the worst? Or was there just one winning box and two more equally non-valuable? Were the competitors allowed to pick the boxes up before choosing? Shake them? Did the boxes weight help them in any way? Did this really happen? Or at least, did the thing on which you based the puzzle really happen? Or was it a fictional tale? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 62 Registered: 3-2007 |
so just to double check, they weren't allowed to look in the box? Correct they just had to go by the outside appearance of the box? Yes was anything written on the box? YES! or any explanation for each box given? Yes! did they have to figure out how to open the boxes? No Were the men given any information to help then decide on the right box? Yes Would choosing the right box show them to have some quality desirable in a husband? Yes Did anything bad happen to the men who chose wrongly (other than losing out on the chance to marry the girl)? No Did each box have the same thing inside it? No Similar things? No Paper with different things written on them? Yes Was one of the boxes (the one Barney chose) the best, then another one was second best and the last the worst? Or was there just one winning box and two more equally non-valuable? This one Were the competitors allowed to pick the boxes up before choosing? Shake them? Did the boxes weight help them in any way? No to all Did this really happen? No Or at least, did the thing on which you based the puzzle really happen? No Or was it a fictional tale? Yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 496 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok did what was written on the box describe what was in it? something about the box? something about the girl? something about the father? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1287 Registered: 6-2006 |
I believe I know this. I believe the trait the father is looking for would be unselfishness, correct? So the winner must...well..give and hazard all he has? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 857 Registered: 3-2006 |
So does this story involve a Jew, a seaman, some ships and a particular substance? A leaden substance, perhaps? Neat puzzle (if indeed it's what I think it is). | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 326 Registered: 4-2007 |
Woodworm is this the same as your "By Request" puzzle???? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 858 Registered: 3-2006 |
Enjay: not at all - I was just enjoying the coincidences :-)) | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1303 Registered: 6-2006 |
Well how in the devil did I figure this one out and not yours, Woodworm?? Goodness gracious. | ||
| Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)
New member Username: Blazingphoenix Post Number: 96 Registered: 2-2007 |
I believe they have gotten the jist of it, dear. You may want to post a spoiler- either that, or you can make them guess what it's from... | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 63 Registered: 3-2007 |
Sorry I haven't checked in for so long. My computer was acting up. Blazingphoenix is right. It is time for a *******************SPOILER******************* As some people were probably guessing, I got this idea from Shakespeare's play "The Merchant of Venice." In the play, Bassiano wants to win the hand of Portia, a rich heiress. The only problem is that her father set up a test before he died in order to choose her husband for her. He was looking for an unselfish man who would treat his daughter well. In order for Bassiano to win her hand, he had to choose between three chests, one of which had her picture in it: one was made of gold and had the inscription "Who chooseth me will gain what many men desire." Another was made of silver and said "Who chooseth me will gain as much as he deserves." The last one was made of lead and said "Who chooseth me must give and hzard all that he hath." Two princes arrive before Bassiano and choose the gold and the silver ones for various reasons, but Bassiano chooses the lead one and wins her hand when he finds her portrait inside. Good job, everyone! Sorry I took so long to post the answer, and thanks for a great time with this puzzle! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 930 Registered: 3-2006 |
... and it took us several weeks to spot Will's name in the title. D'oh! This was fun: craftily worded. More please! | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 64 Registered: 3-2007 |
Uhhh, I don't mean to sound rude and stupid, but what do you mean about "Will's name"? Don't worry about more, I'm already working on another... | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 66 Registered: 3-2007 |
I just posted another puzzle. Have fun! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 932 Registered: 3-2006 |
Oh it must have been a happy coincidence that you capitalised Will in the title. Shakespeare's first name, on which he made many puns himself. | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 69 Registered: 3-2007 |
To be honest, I didn't intend to do that. I just kinda like capitals... It's been a fun first puzzle! Thanks so much for all of your hard work at solving it. (And I honestly didn't even notice that I capitalized 'Will'...) Funny, huh? |
