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Beccaann (Beccaann)
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My doctor was not pleased...that is until I told him that I had given money to a complete stranger.
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doctor--medical doctor? if so, important what kind?

real story or fyoi?

other than being your doctor, did you also did you know the doctor personally? friend? were you related to him? spouse? sibling?

important whether doctor is--human? adult? male? female?

was the money you had given a donation? was this money that would help research? of a particular disease? was this money that would somehow benefit the doctor?

was the doctor not pleased that you had given money until you let him/her know what it was for? or was there something else that the doctor was not pleased about? test results? eating habits? exercise habits?
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doctor--medical doctor?yope if so, important what kind? yes

real story or fyoi? real story

other than being your doctor, did you also did you know the doctor personally?no friend? were you related to him? spouse? sibling?

important whether doctor is--human? adult? male? female? HAM, but not particularly relevant

was the money you had given a donation?no was this money that would help research?no of a particular disease?no was this money that would somehow benefit the doctor?no

was the doctor not pleased that you had given money until you let him/her know what it was for?noish or was there something else that the doctor was not pleased about?yes test results?no eating habits?no exercise habits?no
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so is this a doctor with a medical degree? without a medical degree?

would it help to list various types of doctors? (below is list of types of doctors)
Anesthesiology
Asthma, Allergy & Immunology
Cardiology
Dermatology
Diabetes
Endocrinology
Epilepsy
Family Medicine
Gastroenterology
General Surgery
Geriatrics
Gynecologic Oncology
Gynecology
Hematology
Infectious Diseases
Infertility Medicine
Internal Medicine
Midwife (CNM)
Movement Disorders
Neonatology
Nephrology
Neurology
Neuro-ophthalmology
Neurosurgery
Nuclear Medicine
Obstetrics and Gynecology
Oncology Medical
Oncology Radiation
Ophthalmology
Oral/Maxillofacial Surgery
Orthopedic Surgery
Otolaryngology (ENT)
Otology
Pain Management
Pathology
Pediatrics
Pediatric Specialists
Perinatology
Physiatry
Physical Rehabilitation
Plastic/Reconstructive Surgery
Podiatry
Prostate Care
Psychiatry
Psychology
Pulmonary Medicine
Radiology
Rheumatology
Sleep Disorders
Sports Medicine
Thoracic Surgery
Transplant
Urology
Vascular Surgery

or could it be something like: veterinarian? chiropractor? accupuncturist herbologist?

what the doctor was not pleased about: was it related to something medical? related to something you did? something you didn't do?
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Was it your money that you gave away?
Did you have a good reason to give it to that stranger? Did you owe it to him? Did you owe it to the doctor? Did the man collect money for a charity? Was it a fine you had to pay? or a fee for something? Were you robbed?
Does your doctor know the man whom you gave the money?
Was the doctor not pleased because you owed him money? and he assumed you would not be able to pay?
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Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 12:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so is this a doctor with a medical degree? without a medical degree? could be either...

would it help to list various types of doctors? possibly(below is list of types of doctors)
Anesthesiology
Asthma, Allergy & Immunology
Cardiology
Dermatology
Diabetes
Endocrinology
Epilepsy
Family Medicine
Gastroenterology
General Surgery
Geriatrics
Gynecologic Oncology
Gynecology
Hematology
Infectious Diseases
Infertility Medicine
Internal Medicine
Midwife (CNM)
Movement Disorders
Neonatology
Nephrology
Neurology
Neuro-ophthalmology
Neurosurgery
Nuclear Medicine
Obstetrics and Gynecology
Oncology Medical
Oncology Radiation
Ophthalmology
Oral/Maxillofacial Surgery
Orthopedic Surgery
Otolaryngology (ENT)
Otology
Pain Management
Pathology
Pediatrics
Pediatric Specialists
Perinatology
Physiatry
Physical Rehabilitation
Plastic/Reconstructive Surgery
Podiatry
Prostate Care
Psychiatry
Psychology
Pulmonary Medicine
Radiology
Rheumatology
Sleep Disorders
Sports Medicine
Thoracic Surgery
Transplant
Urology
Vascular Surgery
None of these

or could it be something like: veterinarian? chiropractor?This accupuncturist herbologist?

what the doctor was not pleased about: was it related to something medical?yes related to something you did?yes something you didn't do?in a way, yes

Was it your money that you gave away? yes
Did you have a good reason to give it to that stranger? yes Did you owe it to him?noish Did you owe it to the doctor?no Did the man collect money for a charity?no Was it a fine you had to pay?no or a fee for something?noWere you robbed? no
Does your doctor know the man whom you gave the money? no
Was the doctor not pleased because you owed him money?no and he assumed you would not be able to pay? no
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Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 7:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the doctor not pleased b/c the money was carried in your wallet and therefore made your wallet so thick that it through your spine out of alignment? By giving away the money your wallet was thinner and was better for your back?
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Was the doctor not pleased b/c the money was carried in your wallet and therefore made your wallet so thick that it through your spine out of alignment?no...I wish I had that much money! By giving away the money your wallet was thinner and was better for your back?no
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does your job involve bending your back? is your job relevant? did your chiropractor tell you not to do something? or to do something? to exercise your back? or to make sure you didn't lift anything heavy? did you're being able to give money away mean that you must have followed the chiroprators orders?
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does your job involve bending your back?noish or yope is your job relevant?noish or yope did your chiropractor tell you not to do something?yes or to do something?no to exercise your back?no or to make sure you didn't lift anything heavy?this is part of it did you're being able to give money away mean that you must have followed the chiroprators orders? noish
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did you use the money to buy something to help your back?
did you purchase something? a back brace? a dolly to help load things?
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did you use the money to buy something to help your back? no
did you purchase something?noish a back brace?no a dolly to help load things?no
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Did you use the money to pay for a service? Did you move, and your chiro wasn't pleased until he learned that you had hired assistance?
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did you receive something in return for your money?
is method of payment rel.?
Did the exchange comply with the chiro's previous reccomendations?

was your doctor not pleased about..
your lifestyle?
your present health condition?
your recovery from something?
a recent change? degrading health?
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Did you use the money to pay for a service?yes Did you move, and your chiro wasn't pleased until he learned that you had hired assistance?no, but OTRT

did you receive something in return for your money? a service, yes
is method of payment rel.? yope
Did the exchange comply with the chiro's previous reccomendations? yesish

was your doctor not pleased about..
your lifestyle? no
your present health condition? no
your recovery from something? yope
a recent change? no degrading health?no
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did you give someone money to move something for you?
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did you give someone money to move something for you? yope
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The something that you paid the stranger to move for you: animate? inanimate? Is the yope because it wasn't something, it was someone? Did you hire a nanny? a nurse? a babysitter?

If animate animal? vegetable? human?
If inanimate: dead? never living? solid? liquid? gas?

A sngle thing? a set of things?
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was there more than one person moving whatever it was?
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The something that you paid the stranger to move for you: animate? inanimate?this Is the yope because it wasn't something, it was someone?no Did you hire a nanny? a nurse? a babysitter?nothing like this

If animate animal? vegetable? human?
If inanimate: dead?no...well a tiny little ish I suppose never living?yes, with that same tiny ish solid?yes liquid? gas?

A sngle thing?no a set of things?yes

was there more than one person moving whatever it was?no
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were the things furniture? sofa? armchair? table? other chairs? electrical equipment? computer(s)? were they big? heavy?

were they bigger than a computer? bigger than a sofa?
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were the things furniture?yope sofa? noarmchair?no table?this other chairs?this electrical equipment?no computer(s)?no were they big?yope heavy?yes

were they bigger than a computer?yes bigger than a sofa?yope

To clarify, the "set of items" conatains more than one type of item, hence the yopes
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Was there anything else besides the table and chairs (by the way, was it a dining room set? conference set? banquet set-up? coffee table and living room side chairs?) that was moved at the same time?

Did you physically move anything or did the stranger move everything?

Did he move them from one side of the room to the other? from one room to another room in the same building? from one building to another building? from outside to inside? inside to outside? relevant?

He was a complete stranger -- should we try to find out how you decided that he should move these things for you?
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Was there anything else besides the table and chairs(by the way, was it a dining room set?no conference set?no banquet set-up?no, but closer coffee table and living room side chairs?no) that was moved at the same time? yes

Did you physically move anything or did the stranger move everything? he moved everything

Did he move them from one side of the room to the other?no from one room to another room in the same building?no from one building to another building?no from outside to inside?no inside to outside?yesish relevant? yesish

He was a complete stranger -- should we try to find out how you decided that he should move these things for you? it couldn't hurt
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Setting up for an event?
A wedding, perhaps?
or a graduation ceremony?
garden party?
with lots of tables and chairs?
Maybe an archway?
a podium?
some potted plants?

Did you own the items that were moved?
rent them?
borrow them?

If rented, was the stranger an employee of the rental company?
Were there different prices quoted depending on whether they set up or you did?

Was your chiro concerned because you had been planning on doing the set-up yourself?
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Ooops, one more: were the items yes-ish-ly moved from insides to outside because they were moved from a truck to outdoors?
from indoors to a tent or pavilion?
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Was it outdoor furniture? Moved from the storage to the patio?
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Setting up for an event? yes
A wedding, perhaps? no
or a graduation ceremony? no
garden party? no
with lots of tables and chairs? no
Maybe an archway? no
a podium? no
some potted plants? no

Did you own the items that were moved? yes
rent them? no
borrow them? no

If rented, was the stranger an employee of the rental company? no
Were there different prices quoted depending on whether they set up or you did? no

Was your chiro concerned because you had been planning on doing the set-up yourself? no

Ooops, one more: were the items yes-ish-ly moved from insides to outside because they were moved from a truck to outdoors? yes
from indoors to a tent or pavilion? noish

Was it outdoor furniture? yope Moved from the storage to the patio? no

I will tell you that the specific event being set up is not exactly relevant, but there are certain aspects of it that are.
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had you bought new lawn furniture? did the delivery person move them? someone on the street?
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had you bought new lawn furniture?no did the delivery person move them?no someone on the street?yes
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Did you try to move them yourself before paying the stranger? Did you ask him to help you, or did he offer without being asked?

Yope to 'outdoor furniture': was it furniture that is generally used both indoors and outdoors? (like wicker or rattan?) Was it furniture that is normally used indoors, but can be used outdoors? (like folding metal chairs and tables?) was it furniture that is normally used indoors, and rarely taken outdoors? (like wooden chairs with upholstered seats?)

No-ish to 'moved from indoors to a tent or pavilion': is the -ish because it was moved from a truck rather than indoors? or because it was moved to something other than a tent or pavillion? Were you moving it into the garage? Was the event a garage sale?
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Did you try to move them yourself before paying the stranger?yesish Did you ask him to help you, or did he offer without being asked?he offered

Yope to 'outdoor furniture': was it furniture that is generally used both indoors and outdoors?Some of it was outdoor furniture, some was more of indoor furniture, and some was not furniture at all (like wicker or rattan?) Was it furniture that is normally used indoors, but can be used outdoors?this is some of it (like folding metal chairs and tables?) was it furniture that is normally used indoors, and rarely taken outdoors?no (like wooden chairs with upholstered seats?)

No-ish to 'moved from indoors to a tent or pavilion': is the -ish because it was moved from a truck rather than indoors?yes or because it was moved to something other than a tent or pavillion?no Were you moving it into the garage?no Was the event a garage sale?no
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don't know if this was asked, but were you moving from/to a house? condominium? apartment?

were the people who helped you paid movers (maybe from a moving company?)

were the items on the truck everything that had been in another place of residence?

did the chiro think you were going to try to move everything yourself? and then he was happy to find that you had paid movers to do this for you?
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don't know if this was asked, but were you moving from/to a house? condominium? apartment? none of these. The moving in question is from a truck to an outdoor event.

were the people who helped you paid movers (maybe from a moving company?) no

were the items on the truck everything that had been in another place of residence? no

did the chiro think you were going to try to move everything yourself? yes and then he was happy to find that you had paid movers to do this for you? yope
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is that yope because there was only one person helping you move, and he wasn't the person from the truck?

is all we need now to know what all the stuff was for? was there a garden party? birthday? barbecue? graduation party? anniversary?
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is that yope because there was only one person helping you move, and he wasn't the person from the truck? yesish, but also kind of an FA...

is all we need now to know what all the stuff was for? yope was there a garden party? birthday? barbecue? graduation party? anniversary? none of these

OK, I'm going to give a recap here, because certain things that have been determined seem to have been forgotten...

RECAP:

I paid a stranger to perform a service for me. That service was to move a set of objects from a truck to an outdoor event involving a tent or pavillion. This stranger was not a professional mover, but was instead a person "off the street" who offered this service without being asked. The objects included, among other things, tables and chairs which would normally be used for both indoor and outdoor purposes. My chiropractor was displeased with me due to his belief that I moved, or had intended to move, these objects myself, but upon learning that I had paid this stranger to do it, was pleased.

The exact event for which these objects were moved is not important, but the type of event is important.

You still need to find out how my doctor would even know about this at all, and, for that matter, why a stranger off the street would be offering his service in the first place.
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How your doctor knew about it:

had you mentioned that you were planning this event, and indicated that you intended to set it up yourself?

Was your doctor also involved in planning or organizing the event, and thus knew that you were involved?

Was the event a very large one, and publicized in advance, with your name publicly connected to it as one of the organizers?


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is that yope because there was only one person helping you move, and he wasn't the person from the truck? yesish, but also kind of an FA...


The FA: that there was only one person helping you move the items? Were there other people helping, but the stranger was the only one who was paid?
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How your doctor knew about it:

had you mentioned that you were planning this event, and indicated that you intended to set it up yourself? no

Was your doctor also involved in planning or organizing the event, and thus knew that you were involved? no

Was the event a very large one, yes and publicized in advance, yes with your name publicly connected to it as one of the organizers? no, and FA



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is that yope because there was only one person helping you move, and he wasn't the person from the truck? yesish, but also kind of an FA...



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The FA: that there was only one person helping you move the items? Were there other people helping, but the stranger was the only one who was paid? neither, the FA was that there was a "person from the truck"
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did you drive the truck/van?
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did you drive the truck/van? yes
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was it your stuff on the van? were you just the driver? or did you have further involvement in the event? do you own the van? is that relevant? does your job routinely involve driving?
Beccaann (Beccaann)
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was it your stuff on the van?yes were you just the driver?no or did you have further involvement in the event?yes do you own the van?yes is that relevant?noish does your job routinely involve driving?no, and irrelevant
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did you bring the items from your house? is it relevant if they belonged to you? were you also a guest at the event? a host/co-host? a speaker?
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did you bring the items from your house?yes is it relevant if they belonged to you?yope were you also a guest at the event?noish a host/co-host?noish a speaker?no
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is the event a very large one? would most people in the area know about it? some sort of fair? fete? country show?
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is the event a very large one?yes would most people in the area know about it?yes some sort of fair?yes fete? country show?

I will go ahead and specify now that it was a local music and arts festival.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you performing? displaying art? selling art? Besides the table and chairs, were the rest of the items things you hoped to sell? If so, is it relevant what type of art you do?

If yes, did your chiropractor know that you are an artist? I assume that he knew about the festival; did he assume that you were going to be involved in it? had you told him directly? had someone else told him directly? had he learned it through promotional materials for the festival?

Was the stranger you paid someone who was wandering around the area looking for people who might be willing to pay him to help them unload? was he associated officially with the festival?

was there anything visible about you that made him think that you might be willing to pay him to help you? a back brace? lumbar belt? were you moving with difficulty? moving carefully? (I know that when my back is acting up, it shows in the way I move overall, although there isn't any one thing that I can identify. Anything like that?)
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Were you performing?no displaying art?yes selling art?yes Besides the table and chairs, were the rest of the items things you hoped to sell?some of the items, yes If so, is it relevant what type of art you do? no

If yes, did your chiropractor know that you are an artist?yes I assume that he knew about the festival; did he assume that you were going to be involved in it?no had you told him directly?no had someone else told him directly?no had he learned it through promotional materials for the festival? no

Was the stranger you paid someone who was wandering around the area looking for people who might be willing to pay him to help them unload?yes was he associated officially with the festival? no

was there anything visible about you that made him think that you might be willing to pay him to help you?yes a back brace?no lumbar belt?no were you moving with difficulty?yes moving carefully?yes (I know that when my back is acting up, it shows in the way I move overall, although there isn't any one thing that I can identify. Anything like that?)Absolutely. I was walking like a hunched over 90 year old woman. I was unable to stand up anything close to straight.
Rabrab (Rabrab)
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 5:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aha!!!

Did the doctor express his unhappiness in his office? or did he see you at the festival, and indicate that he wasn't terribly happy to see you there with a table, chairs, and other things that you had clearly brought along?

Had you made an agreement with the stranger that he would come back at the end of the festival and help you reload the items?


As to why he'd do it, I've found that the folks who are around arts and music festivals tend to be very helpful in general, so I'm not surprised that someone would see you moving badly and offer to help.

Did you offer to pay him or did he ask to be paid?
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aha!!!

Did the doctor express his unhappiness in his office?no or did he see you at the festival, and indicate that he wasn't terribly happy to see you there with a table, chairs, and other things that you had clearly brought along? YES!

Had you made an agreement with the stranger that he would come back at the end of the festival and help you reload the items? yes, although he didn't actually come back, but that's beside the point.


As to why he'd do it, I've found that the folks who are around arts and music festivals tend to be very helpful in general, so I'm not surprised that someone would see you moving badly and offer to help.

Did you offer to pay him or did he ask to be paid?
irrelevant, but i will explain...

***************SPOILER****************

I had been seeing a chiroprator after somehow hurting my back. I was in bad shape and under specific direction from my doctor not to do anything to strain my back, especially lifting.

Well, the time came around for this music and arts festival. I had already paid a rather steep fee for my space in the artist market, so I wasn't going to skip it. A neighbor helped me load my van, and I drove to the festival not knowing how I was possibly going to set up.

When I got there and started, rather unsuccessfully, trying to unload my stuff, a homeless man saw me and jumped right in helping me. Clearly I saw that he was hoping for some money in return, and planned on giving him some for sure, because I needed his help badly. He helped set up the tent, the tables, my chair, display boards for hanging some of the art, boxes of artwork, my fan...everything. When everything was set up, he as expected asked if I could spare some change. I gave him 20 bucks and profuse thanks. He got what he needed and I got what I needed. Worked out quite nicely. He thanked me and offered to come back that Sunday to help break down, which he didn't but I was feeling much better by Sunday and was able to do most of the work myself with a little help from festival volunteers.

Anyway, that weekend my doctor showed up to the festival to check out the art and music and saw me at my booth. The first words from his mouth were..."You had better be feeling a lot better if you're able to get out here and do all this." I told him I was still hurting, and he was not happy, that is until I told him that in fact I hadn't done much of anything at all, that I had paid someone else to. At that he was very much relieved, and proceeded to enjoy the festival.

If only he had bought some artwork from me with all the money I've paid him to fix me!
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 3:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Very good lateral puzzle--I just couldn't get it out of my head thinking that you had seen the chiropractor at the office. Nice!
Rabrab (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 4:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That was the AHA! moment -- when I realized that we were all assuming that she'd seen the doctor at his office...
Excellent puzzle, Beccaann. Particularly nice that it was such a small lateral step that was needed, rather than a huge lateral leap.

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