| Author | Message | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 971 Registered: 8-2006 |
I won't be making puzzles so quickly if they weren't solved so quickly Darn you, Physics! This is FMOI(Actually a books) | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 433 Registered: 9-2003 |
don't suppose Physics is someone/things name? or is there an area of the science Physics we need to find? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 972 Registered: 8-2006 |
don't suppose Physics is someone/things name? No or is there an area of the science Physics we need to find?Mostly this | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 437 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it something quantum? or something to do with newton? gravity? forces? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 973 Registered: 8-2006 |
is it something quantum? or something to do with newton?Try capitalizing this word gravity? forces? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 289 Registered: 4-2007 |
So this is to do with Isaac Newton? Is that what he said when the apple said on his head :-)? But not to do with gravity? Would he have said this? Or is it connected to one of his discoveries? An experiment he performed? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 974 Registered: 8-2006 |
So this is to do with Isaac Newton?Yes-ish- See next answers Is that what he said when the apple said on his head :-)?No But not to do with gravity?No Would he have said this?No Or is it connected to one of his discoveries?Yes An experiment he performed?No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 444 Registered: 9-2003 |
and its definitely nothing to do with forces? apart from gravity the only things I remember about him are the whole forces rules like every action has an equal an opposite reaction etc? is it a more obscure one? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 188 Registered: 8-2006 |
Does it have to do with any of the forces of motion. Newtons Laws? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 980 Registered: 8-2006 |
and its definitely nothing to do with forces?Blooper, forces are relevant apart from gravity the only things I remember about him are the whole forces rules like every action has an equal an opposite reaction etc?Its this one is it a more obscure one? Does it have to do with any of the forces of motion. Newtons Laws?Look above | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 453 Registered: 9-2003 |
ah right ok then, so something happened then there was an equal and opposite reation to it? did the first thing happen to a person? was someone/thing pushed? pulled? or is it a more reaction thing? i.e. you did this to me, so now I'm going to do this in revenge kind of thing? once individual involved? 2? 3? 4? 5? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 984 Registered: 8-2006 |
ah right ok then, so something happened then there was an equal and opposite reation to it?Yes did the first thing happen to a person?No was someone/thing pushed? pulled? or is it a more reaction thing?I don't believe it is pulled, but mayble pushed i.e. you did this to me, so now I'm going to do this in revenge kind of thing?No once individual involved?Yes, the speaker 2? 3? 4? 5? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 461 Registered: 9-2003 |
is "it" something that should be moved? that can be moved? is it indoors? or out? could it be either? is it made of metal? stone? wood? plastic? paper? glass? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 991 Registered: 8-2006 |
is "it" something that should be moved?Yope that can be moved?\b[Yes} is it indoors? or out? could it be either?Yes is it made of metal? stone? wood? plastic? paper? glass?no to all | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 465 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it alive? human? animal? plant? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1010 Registered: 8-2006 |
is it alive? human? animal?Yes plant? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 474 Registered: 9-2003 |
is the animal a mammal? does it have fur? claws? hooves? 4 legs? is it larger than a dog? larger than a deer? is it wild? domesticated? farm animal? is it found in homes? zoos? forest? deserts? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1013 Registered: 8-2006 |
is the animal a mammal? does it have fur? claws? hooves? 4 legs? is it larger than a dog? larger than a deer?None to all is it wild?Sometimes... domesticated?Sometimes... farm animal?Sometimes... is it found in homes?NO zoos?Sometimes forest?Sometimes deserts?No | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 846 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it a bird? A fish? Reptile? Amphibian? Insect? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1020 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is it a bird?Yes A fish? Reptile? Amphibian? Insect? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 493 Registered: 9-2003 |
chicken? turkey? duck? is it a bird people eat? or more of a songbird type one? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1024 Registered: 8-2006 |
chicken? turkey? duck?Yes is it a bird people eat? or more of a songbird type one? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 120 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the fact that ducks can swim ( read "float" ) relevant? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 500 Registered: 9-2003 |
did someone splash the duck? or try to get it to go away? and it responded by attacking? or flying closer? or fluttering its wings which caused the splasher to get wet? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1028 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is the fact that ducks can swim ( read "float" ) relevant?No did someone splash the duck? or try to get it to go away? and it responded by attacking? or flying closer?No to all or fluttering its wings which caused the splasher to get wet?Maybe it fluttered in this puzzle, but... | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 514 Registered: 9-2003 |
was the duck injured in any way? any other animals involved? is the speaker involved in any other way than observing what happened? did the speaker try to do something to the duck? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1037 Registered: 8-2006 |
was the duck injured in any way?No any other animals involved?No is the speaker involved in any other way than observing what happened?Yes did the speaker try to do something to the duck?More than one duck, but yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 516 Registered: 9-2003 |
did the speaker try to feed the ducks? throw bread? or something else? are the ducks in water? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1042 Registered: 8-2006 |
did the speaker try to feed the ducks? throw bread? or something else?Something else are the ducks in water?No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 530 Registered: 9-2003 |
do the speaker throw food to the ducks? or are they trying to make the ducks go away? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1047 Registered: 8-2006 |
do the speaker throw food to the ducks? or are they trying to make the ducks go away?More, like this, but not away | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 396 Registered: 4-2007 |
Trying to get the ducks to come to them? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1049 Registered: 8-2006 |
Trying to get the ducks to come to them?Nor this, its relevant it's a bird though | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 399 Registered: 4-2007 |
Trying to make them fly? Fly away? Trying to make them quack? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1051 Registered: 8-2006 |
Trying to make them fly?Yes Fly away?yope- clarify? Trying to make them quack? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 405 Registered: 4-2007 |
Trying to make them fly straight upwards? Away from the speaker? Towards the speaker? Towards a particular object? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1052 Registered: 8-2006 |
Trying to make them fly straight upwards?Yes Away from the speaker? Towards the speaker? Towards a particular object?Yope | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 542 Registered: 9-2003 |
does the speaker just want to watch them fly? or does he want them to move for another reason? are they in his way? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1066 Registered: 8-2006 |
does the speaker just want to watch them fly? or does he want them to move for another reason?yes are they in his way?Yope- Explore the meaning of "WAY" | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 446 Registered: 4-2007 |
Were the ducks sitting on something the speaker wanted? Were they blocking a path that the speaker wanted to take? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1069 Registered: 8-2006 |
Were the ducks sitting on something the speaker wanted?No Were they blocking a path that the speaker wanted to take?No HINT:Their location would help | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1092 Registered: 8-2006 |
Second hint: The man is a truck driver | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 588 Registered: 9-2003 |
were the ducks on his truck? under his truck? in the trucks way? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1095 Registered: 8-2006 |
were the ducks on his truck? under his truck? in the trucks way?No to all | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 791 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is his truck involved? Was his truck on the ground? In water? Did he want the ducks to accomplish some task by flying away? Did his truck move at any moment during the puzzle? Was he in his truck? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1142 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is his truck involved?Yes Was his truck on the ground?Yes In water?NO but explore Did he want the ducks to accomplish some task by flying away?Yes Did his truck move at any moment during the puzzle?Yes Was he in his truck?Only while driving | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 800 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did he want the ducks to move his truck? Did he want to get his truck into water? If yes, then relevant why? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1147 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did he want the ducks to move his truck?No Did he want to get his truck into water?No If yes, then relevant why? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 271 Registered: 4-2007 |
was his truck stuck? was there water on the road? a puddle? larger than a puddle? was the truck stuck in mud? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1151 Registered: 8-2006 |
was his truck stuck?Yope- stuck by something, not physical... was there water on the road? a puddle? larger than a puddle? was the truck stuck in mud?No to all | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 273 Registered: 4-2007 |
was the truck stuck on the road? was it stuck in snow? was it stuck in some sort of hole? any puns involved? | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 811 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was the truck broken in any way? Did ita engine work? Did it have fuel? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1158 Registered: 8-2006 |
was the truck stuck on the road?Yes, it's path was stuck, but why??? was it stuck in snow? was it stuck in some sort of hole?No to both any puns involved?I don't think so They are OVER a river Was the truck broken in any way?No Did ita engine work? Did it have fuel?No to both | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 181 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was the driver lost? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 583 Registered: 4-2007 |
Wait-so its engine didn't work? But it wasn't broken? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1160 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was the driver lost?No Wait-so its engine didn't work? But it wasn't broken?BLOOPER! It's engine worked | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 816 Registered: 9-2006 |
Were there any obstacles on the road? If yes, then were they man-made? Natural? A pit? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1163 Registered: 8-2006 |
ere there any obstacles on the road?Not an obstacle, but... If yes, then were they man-made?The problem was manmade Natural? A pit?No | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1164 Registered: 8-2006 |
Oh yeah, and BTW in my 12:37 post there is a hint in white | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 821 Registered: 9-2006 |
Bridges relevant? Could he go through the problem without removing it, even suffering severe consequences? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1167 Registered: 8-2006 |
Bridges relevant?Yes Could he go through the problem without removing itMaybe, even suffering severe consequencesMaybe | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 828 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was there a bridge on his way? Was it broken? Was it damaged? Was he afraid it would break? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1173 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was there a bridge on his way?Yes Was it broken?No Was it damaged?No Was he afraid it would break?YES | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 283 Registered: 4-2007 |
was it a suspension bridge? was it wooden? was it old? did he see the bridge? was he in front of the bridge or on the bridge? was there a sign posted near/in front of the bridge that worried him? were ducks on the bridge? in his way? crossing the bridge? under the bridge? was he worried about hitting ducks--if he crossed the bridge? if the bridge broke while he was driving on it? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1179 Registered: 8-2006 |
was it a suspension bridge?No and irr was it wooden?Possibly was it old?Possibly did he see the bridge?Yes was he in front of the bridge In frontor on the bridge? was there a sign posted near/in front of the bridge that worried him? Yes were ducks on the bridge?No in his way?No crossing the bridge? under the bridge? was he worried about hitting ducks--if he crossed the bridge?No if the bridge broke while he was driving on it?YES!! | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 288 Registered: 4-2007 |
so, he was in front of a bridge, and he was worried that if the bridge collapsed while he drove over it, he might kill the ducks that were under the bridge. did he try to get the ducks to fly away so he wouldn't accidentally kill them if the bridge did break? if so, is it important how he tried to get the ducks away--did he yell at them? throw things at them? was he only worried about the ducks, or was he concerned about his life as well? I personally would be more worried about myself than ducks. do we need to find out what the sign said? if so, did it just say something to the effect of "use caution when driving over bridge" or did it have a more dire warning? did he have to cross the bridge? could he use another route? was his errand necessary, or could he simply return home and not do whatever errand it was? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1185 Registered: 8-2006 |
so, he was in front of a bridge,Yes and he was worried that if the bridge collapsed while he drove over it,Yes he might kill the ducks that were under the bridge. FA did he try to get the ducks to fly away so he wouldn't accidentally kill them if the bridge did break?No if so, is it important how he tried to get the ducks away--did he yell at them? throw things at them? was he only worried about the ducks, or was he concerned about his life as well?He was worried I personally would be more worried about myself than ducks. do we need to find out what the sign said?Not the exact words, but the idea of it if so, did it just say something to the effect of "use caution when driving over bridge" or did it have a more dire warning? Less dire did he have to cross the bridge?Yes could he use another route?No and irr was his errand necessary, or could he simply return home and not do whatever errand it was?Nope | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2007 |
Has this anything to do with the resonating frequency of the bridge? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1191 Registered: 8-2006 |
Has this anything to do with the resonating frequency of the bridge?Wait, what? I think no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 28 Registered: 6-2007 |
i{"every action has an equal an opposite reaction "} so we have an action "A" and action "B" did the driver observe action A? did the driver observe action B? did the driver cause action A with hopes that action B would be different? Is the sign a typical road sign that a driver might encounter somewhere else? were the indications onthe sign related to the bridge? did the driver stop because of the sign or the bridge condition? has this anything to do with duck droppings? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1204 Registered: 8-2006 |
i{"every action has an equal an opposite reaction "} so we have an action "A" and action "B" Yes did the driver observe action A? Yes, and explore! did the driver observe action B? Yope did the driver cause action AYES with hopes that action B would be different? Yes Is the sign a typical road sign that a driver might encounter somewhere else? Possibly were the indications onthe sign related to the bridge?Yes did the driver stop because of the sign or the bridge condition?Yes has this anything to do with duck droppings?No | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 54 Registered: 6-2007 |
he was driving along noticed the bridge. the sign to solve his problem incited action A action b happened end of puzzle? segments of puzzle are missing? before action A? after action A? he wanted to use the ducks to solve his problem so action A involves ducks? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1206 Registered: 8-2006 |
he was driving alongYes noticed the bridge.Yes the sign to solve his problem incited action AYes action b happened Yes end of puzzle? You have the main idea, but how do the ducks come in, and what are actions A and B? segments of puzzle are missing?Yes before action A?No after action A?No he wanted to use the ducks to solve his problem so action A involves ducks?Yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 669 Registered: 9-2003 |
does he attempt to cross the bridge? does he try to drive around the bridge? through the water? does he drive really fast to try to skim along the top of the water? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1215 Registered: 8-2006 |
does he attempt to cross the bridge?NO-ISH! EXPLORE! does he try to drive around the bridge? through the water? does he drive really fast to try to skim along the top of the water?No to the rest | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 671 Registered: 9-2003 |
does he start to drive onto the bridge? do the front wheels go on the bridge? back wheels? does the birdge actually collapse? or just look like its going to? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1219 Registered: 8-2006 |
does he start to drive onto the bridge?No do the front wheels go on the bridge? back wheels? does the birdge actually collapse? or just look like its going to?No to all Hint it white:Find why it is important that it is a truck, and where do the ducks come in | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 678 Registered: 9-2003 |
any height restrictions relevant? weight restrictions? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1220 Registered: 8-2006 |
any height restrictions relevant? weight restrictions?YES!!! | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 679 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he try to make his truck lighter? he didn't try to tie ducks to it did he? lol I can just imagine a truck flying through the air | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1221 Registered: 8-2006 |
did he try to make his truck lighter?Yes he didn't try to tie ducks to it did he?NO lol I can just imagine a truck flying through the airIts a bird! Its a plane! its a truckk with ducks attached :P | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 682 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol aww Im disappointed that wasn't it!! did he take something off his truck? something out of the truck? is it relevant what was in the truck? is it relevant how much he needed to lighten the truck by? did we say earlier that one of the things he tried to do was to make the ducks fly? did he try to catch them first? would them flying somehow lighten the truck? or did he think it would? did he think the ducks flying would alter something about the bridge? the water? the weight restriction? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1223 Registered: 8-2006 |
lol aww Im disappointed that wasn't it!!So am I did he take something off his truck?Yope? something out of the truck?No is it relevant what was in the truck?YES! is it relevant how much he needed to lighten the truck by?Not really did we say earlier that one of the things he tried to do was to make the ducks fly?Yes did he try to catch them first?No would them flying somehow lighten the truck?He thought it would or did he think it would?Took the words right out of my mouth. I mean keyboard did he think the ducks flying would alter something about the bridge? the water? the weight restriction?No to the rest | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 339 Registered: 4-2007 |
did he have something on the truck that the ducks would eat? bread? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 90 Registered: 6-2007 |
would the flying ducks directly reduce the stuff he was shipping? or would unloading the stuff make them fly? stuff on the truck.. animal? mineral? vegetable? manufactured ? synthetic? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1227 Registered: 8-2006 |
did he have something on the truck that the ducks would eat? bread?Maybe, but doubtfully would the flying ducks directly reduce the stuff he was shipping? or would unloading the stuff make them fly? stuff on the truck.. I hope you mean in, not on animal? YES. I'll tell you since you'll get it next post. It's the ducks mineral? vegetable? manufactured ? synthetic? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 690 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol of course, so he was taking the ducks somewhere? did he set all the ducks free? did he expect to be able to collect them all after he had crossed the bridge? or did that part not cross his mind at all? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 342 Registered: 4-2007 |
ok, not to sound picky, but on May 25 damia asked if the trucks were on the man's truck and you responded "no", so I am confused...are the ducks on the truck or are they not? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 691 Registered: 9-2003 |
<i>I guess that they are in the truck, not on it? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1229 Registered: 8-2006 |
lol of course, so he was taking the ducks somewhere?Yes but irr did he set all the ducks free?No did he expect to be able to collect them all after he had crossed the bridge? or did that part not cross his mind at all?No to all ok, not to sound picky, but on May 25 damia asked if the trucks were on the man's truck and you responded "no", so I am confused...are the ducks on the truck or are they not?Not on, but IN I guess that they are in the truck, not on it?Yes | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 343 Registered: 4-2007 |
sorry about the confusion--I guess when I say "on the truck" I don't think literally on top of the truck but in the truck (i.e. in bed of pickup truck, in back of a semi...) does it matter what type of truck it is? I am assuming the ducks are in crates or some type of storage container? did he take out any of the ducks? does he take out their "containers" and leave the ducks in the truck? does he take something else off of the truck? my guess is that he takes the ducks, containers, or something else, off the truck, drives the truck over the bridge, goes back across to retrieve whatever he took off, and then loads his truck on the other side of the bridge.... or does he somehow take some air out of his tires? would this lighten the load? (or could he even drive this way?) | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 692 Registered: 9-2003 |
does he try to get the ducks to fly inside the truck? so their weight doesn't count? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1231 Registered: 8-2006 |
sorry about the confusion--I guess when I say "on the truck" I don't think literally on top of the truck but in the truck (i.e. in bed of pickup truck, in back of a semi...)Oh, I was thinking about those juge trucks with at least 8 wheels and signs on them that say : Caution! This Vehicle make Wide Right Turns does it matter what type of truck it is?Just the one described above I am assuming the ducks are in crates or some type of storage container? No, surprisingly did he take out any of the ducks? does he take out their "containers" and leave the ducks in the truck?No does he take something else off of the truck?No my guess is that he takes the ducks, containers, or something else, off the truck, drives the truck over the bridge, goes back across to retrieve whatever he took off, and then loads his truck on the other side of the bridge....Nope or does he somehow take some air out of his tires?No would this lighten the load?Baybe, but he didn't do it (or could he even drive this way?)Probobly not does he try to get the ducks to fly inside the truck?YES! so their weight doesn't count?YES!!! | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 695 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol fantastic so does he manage to get them all flying? does he then try to drive onto the bridge? do any of the ducks escape? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1234 Registered: 8-2006 |
lol fantastic so does he manage to get them all flying?Yes, but not exactly irrelevant does he then try to drive onto the bridge?Yes do any of the ducks escape?No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 709 Registered: 9-2003 |
not exactly irrelevant?? does the bridge collapse? get damaged? does the lorry get damaged? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1238 Registered: 8-2006 |
not exactly irrelevant?? Meaning that if only a few ducks flew, it still would(n't) work does the bridge collapse?Yes get damaged? does the lorry get damaged?Yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 712 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok so a truck driver needs to cross a bridge which has weight restrictions and his truck is too heavy. He decides that the only possible way to get accross the bridge is to lighten his load. His load just happen to be ducks, so he decides he needs to take their weight out of the equation. He tries to get all the ducks flying around the inside of the truck, then goes and drives forward onto the bridge. The bridge collapses and the truck is damaged. do we need to know more about the bridge? the truck? the ducks? was the driver injured? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1240 Registered: 8-2006 |
ok so a truck driver needs to cross a bridge which has weight restrictions and his truck is too heavy. He decides that the only possible way to get accross the bridge is to lighten his load. His load just happen to be ducks, so he decides he needs to take their weight out of the equation. He tries to get all the ducks flying around the inside of the truck, then goes and drives forward onto the bridge. The bridge collapses and the truck is damaged. do we need to know more about the bridge? the truck? the ducks? was the driver injured?No, nothing else, except the reason why it didn't work! | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 374 Registered: 4-2007 |
did it not work because--the ducks did not want to fly all at the same time? there was not enough room for them to fly at the same time? they ran into each other and some fell? they hit their heads/bodies on roof/sides as he drove and some fell? he hit a bump and some fell? | ||
| Mosquito (Mosquito)
New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 402 Registered: 4-2005 |
I believe that this doesn't work because the air pressure under the ducks when they are aloft exerts the same force on the floor of the truck as do the ducks when they are standing. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1245 Registered: 8-2006 |
did it not work because--the ducks did not want to fly all at the same time? there was not enough room for them to fly at the same time? they ran into each other and some fell? they hit their heads/bodies on roof/sides as he drove and some fell? he hit a bump and some fell?NO BUT LOOK BELOW!!! I believe that this doesn't work because the air pressure under the ducks when they are aloft exerts the same force on the floor of the truck as do the ducks when they are standing.YES!!! TIME FOR A ************************SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!****************** The speaker is a truck driver. He has a load of ducks but exceeds the weight limit of the bridge. Having a (Not so) Smart idea, he hit the side of the truck, hoping the ducks would fly up and lesson the weight. What he forgot was Newton's law, Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The downdraft from their wings created the exact force as the ducks themselves, the driver goes on the bridge, Crack... BOOM! | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1246 Registered: 8-2006 |
Special Kudoz to Damia and Welcome back Mosquito! | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 723 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol good one | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1250 Registered: 8-2006 |
The funny thing about this is that I just twisted the puzzle statement of one of PAUL SLOANES puzzles in one of his books! I was so surprised it got further then 50 posts | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 26 Registered: 5-2007 |
It's not so much (or at all) the downdraft from the wings of the ducks. The method envisaged by the driver would not work even if the ducks could hover in the truck without moving their wings at all. The total mass of the truck - which is what determines the gravitational pull of the Earth on the truck, which in turn determines whether the truck is too heavy (or strictly speaking too massive) for the bridge - remains constant however that mass is distributed within the truck. However, if instead of being on the floor of the truck the ducks could hover near the top of the truck, the gravitational pull of the Earth on the ducks (and hence the truck) would be weakened (because the ducks are further from the centre of the Earth). But the difference this makes would be entirely negligible for practical purposes, unless the truck was very large indeed and contained a very great many ducks. This information brought to you by woubits inc, pedants to the gentry since 1903 and possibly earlier still. | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1424 Registered: 6-2006 |
Hmm...I have to disagree with Woubit here. The downward force does indeed equalize the extra gravitational pull exerted on the truck. If the ducks were able to magically hover in the air without exerting a downward force (which is physically impossible...) then they would no longer be part of the mass of the truck. It would be as though the ducks had been sitting on top of the truck...if they were to fly away they would no longer be weighing the truck down. The ONLY reason the ducks are considered part of the mass of the truck even when they are flying in the truck is that they are in a closed space in which the gravitational pull based on their mass when sitting down is replaced exactly by the downward force exerted by the act of flying. And those forces are necessarily equal...that is the physics of flight. I hope that made sense. I'm quite sleep deprived so I'm not sure I put my thoughts into words very well. Oh, and I also must ask if anyone here watches the show Mythbusters....because they actually tested this scenario. But with pigeons I think. It was quite entertaining. | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 166 Registered: 4-2009 |
Hi there, I know no one has posted here for two and a half years and probably no one will read this, but I couldn't read through the puzzle without adding my own views, being a physicist and a little obsessive... If the birds can hover without exerting a downwards force then they effectively have no mass, therefore do not contribute to the mass of the truck. Of course this is physically impossible, but if the bridge was very small and the perches were very high and the birds couldn't fly, and instead they just fell off their perch and didn't reach the ground until safely across the bridge, this would technically work. The birds are exerting no downards force on the Earth therefore do not contribute to the weight of the truck. Also, if the part of the truck which was holding the birds was in fact a cage, where the air which they pushed down with their wings could escape, he may be able to drive across the bridge, as long as he gave a little leeway for the fraction of air which did reach the bottom of the cage or the bridge. I don't expect anyone to read or reply to this but it's put my mind at rest. Sorry if I've come off looking a bit weird for posting this... |
