| Author | Message | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 244 Registered: 5-2007 |
Jim often goes to the store, buys a product that he doesn't want, and when he gets home, puts the product in his attic and never touches it again. Why does he do this? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 247 Registered: 6-2007 |
This would be common in a collector of memorabilia.. leave it in the package and check the value 20 years later... does Jim resemble this? are the products of a common category? does he go to the store with intent to purchase an undesirable? is the attic relevant? would basement work? by "doesn't want" do you mean.. he has absolutely no use for it whatsoever? does he buy it for someone else? | ||
| Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)
New member Username: Blazingphoenix Post Number: 118 Registered: 2-2007 |
Couldn't possibly be rat poison or something, hmm? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 246 Registered: 5-2007 |
This would be common in a collector of memorabilia.. leave it in the package and check the value 20 years later... does Jim resemble this? No are the products of a common category? Yes does he go to the store with intent to purchase an undesirable? Yes is the attic relevant? Not really would basement work? Yes by "doesn't want" do you mean.. he has absolutely no use for it whatsoever? Not really ... the purchase does serve some use for him ... it would probably be better worded as "doesn't want to use" does he buy it for someone else? No Couldn't possibly be rat poison or something, hmm? No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 331 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is he fulfilling an obligation by buying this product? Does he let the items accumulate? or throws them out after a while? Is the product packaged in a container? does he leave container unopened? Does the product disintegrate after a time? any part of it disappears? | ||
| Psymann (Psymann)
New member Username: Psymann Post Number: 18 Registered: 7-2007 |
Does the product help him to fix/mend/maintain/protect the attic? Does the product help him to fix/mend/maintain/protect something in the attic? Would something he owns come to harm if he did not put this product in the attic? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 462 Registered: 8-2005 |
Will he ever use it unknowingly? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 558 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is jim working for someone i.e is the attic he puts these items into his own? is he an insulator or some similar contractor? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 507 Registered: 4-2007 |
something he never ever touches again? or is it something that he possibly replaces? mothballs? batteries for a smoke detector? something that solves a problem in the attic? smaller than a cracker? smaller than a cell phone? smaller than a cell phone? smaller than a bread box? does he buy one individual item? does it come as a set? many items? is it round? square? flat? rectangular? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 249 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is he fulfilling an obligation by buying this product? Yes Does he let the items accumulate? Yes or throws them out after a while? No Is the product packaged in a container? Yes does he leave container unopened? Irrelevant Does the product disintegrate after a time? any part of it disappears? No Does the product help him to fix/mend/maintain/protect the attic? No Does the product help him to fix/mend/maintain/protect something in the attic? No Would something he owns come to harm if he did not put this product in the attic? No Will he ever use it unknowingly? No Is jim working for someone i.e is the attic he puts these items into his own? is he an insulator or some similar contractor? No something he never ever touches again? Yes or is it something that he possibly replaces? mothballs? batteries for a smoke detector? No something that solves a problem in the attic? No smaller than a cracker? No smaller than a cell phone? No smaller than a bread box? Yes does he buy one individual item? does it come as a set? many items? He has done this on several occasions, but each time it is only one item is it round? Yes square? flat? rectangular? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 250 Registered: 5-2007 |
BLOOPER: The answer to "Is it flat?" should also be Yes. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 463 Registered: 8-2005 |
is it a record? is it a plate? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 464 Registered: 8-2005 |
is it a CD? | ||
| Psymann (Psymann)
New member Username: Psymann Post Number: 33 Registered: 7-2007 |
Does he purchase additional items because - the previous ones have ceased to function properly? - more units are needed to perform whatever function they perform? If he were to live forever, would there come a point where his attic would be full of these items? If he becomes unable to access the attic (maybe he hurt his leg and couldn't climb the ladder or something), would he: - avoid buying these items until the attic was accessible? - continue to buy the items but put them in his basement/spare-room/garden-shed instead? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 357 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is his obligation a result of lost bet? someone's last wish? a promise made at parting? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 251 Registered: 5-2007 |
is it a record? No is it a plate? No Is it a CD? Yesish Does he purchase additional items because - the previous ones have ceased to function properly? No - more units are needed to perform whatever function they perform? No If he were to live forever, would there come a point where his attic would be full of these items? Probably not, and not particularly relevant If he becomes unable to access the attic (maybe he hurt his leg and couldn't climb the ladder or something), would he: - avoid buying these items until the attic was accessible? No - continue to buy the items but put them in his basement/spare-room/garden-shed instead? Yes Is his obligation a result of lost bet? someone's last wish? a promise made at parting? None of them | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 285 Registered: 6-2007 |
are they dvds? some kind of optical disc? another data disc medium? do they contain music? movies? data? are they blank? does he misunderstand the label that says "for extra storage?" "for archiving" | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 253 Registered: 5-2007 |
are they dvds? Yes. Possibly some CDs as well some kind of optical disc? another data disc medium? do they contain music? movies? data? Yesish, for svv of "data" are they blank? does he misunderstand the label that says "for extra storage?" "for archiving" No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 366 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does he have to buy these discs to comply with anti-piracy laws? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 255 Registered: 5-2007 |
Does he have to buy these discs to comply with anti-piracy laws? Yes! | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 367 Registered: 4-2007 |
So he downloads something ( software, images, other "data" ) from the web, but to avoid law suits he also buys legal copies? Is "data" used by his company? Does he make any money off the use of "data"? Do we need to find out anything else about him? about "data"? about the circumstances? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 294 Registered: 6-2007 |
is it software? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 257 Registered: 5-2007 |
So he downloads something ( software, images, other "data" ) from the web, but to avoid law suits he also buys legal copies? Yes Is "data" used by his company? No Does he make any money off the use of "data"? No Do we need to find out anything else about him? Noish about "data"? Yes about the circumstances? Yes is it software? Yes | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 382 Registered: 4-2007 |
So, he downloads software for personal use (?) but also buys a legal copy of each program (?) Does he keep buying media because he downloads new applications? new versions of the same application? full release versions? Could he order CDs over the Internet? Does he use serial numbers from the packages? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 465 Registered: 8-2005 |
If he did not buy the legal copies would he still be able to use the downloaded copies? Are the downloaded copies identical to the bought copies? Are printed materials relevant? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 425 Registered: 10-2004 |
Are they to be legally considered 'backup' copies, which the TnC legal information says you are entitled to make? Is he using the software on multiple machines? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 262 Registered: 5-2007 |
So, he downloads software for personal use Yes but also buys a legal copy of each program Yes Does he keep buying media because he downloads new applications? Yes new versions of the same application? full release versions? Could he order CDs over the Internet? Yes Does he use serial numbers from the packages? No If he did not buy the legal copies would he still be able to use the downloaded copies? He would be able to, but it would be illegal Are the downloaded copies identical to the bought copies? No Are printed materials relevant? No Are they to be legally considered 'backup' copies, which the TnC legal information says you are entitled to make? No. By the way what does TnC stand for? Is he using the software on multiple machines? No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 387 Registered: 4-2007 |
Are downloads b-versions? Is he developing the software he downloads? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 431 Registered: 10-2004 |
Terms and Conditions | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 263 Registered: 5-2007 |
Are downloads b-versions? No Is he developing the software he downloads? No | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 266 Registered: 5-2007 |
<b>Blooper:<b> The answer to "Full release versions?" should be Yesish. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 466 Registered: 8-2005 |
Does he buy the full versions after he has downloaded the illegal ones? Immediatley after? or does some time pass? Is the difference between the download and bought copy to do with updates? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 394 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does he download a full release version of a software, but without a key? then tries to break in? if he succeeds, he buys a legal copy? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 267 Registered: 5-2007 |
Does he buy the full versions after he has downloaded the illegal ones? Yes Immediatley after? Yes or does some time pass? Is the difference between the download and bought copy to do with updates? No Does he download a full release version of a software, but without a key? There are no "keys" involved then tries to break in? No if he succeeds, he buys a legal copy? No | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 433 Registered: 10-2004 |
He goes through this downloading->purchasing scenario multiple times correct? Other than being software, is there a relevent connection between each peice (or a subset) of software downloaded - eg, vesions of the same programme, software for a particular task, etc. Is time relevent - does he need to use the software immediately after finding it on the market, purchases it, but downloads it now to use? Or does his computer have a problem with installing from Hard media, and consequently the ONLY way he can install a programme is to download it, but being a law abiding citizen with a disdain for software piracy, he purchases the relevent media to appease his conscience... | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 268 Registered: 5-2007 |
He goes through this downloading->purchasing scenario multiple times correct? Once for each application Other than being software, is Is time relevent - does he need to use the software immediately after finding it on the market, purchases it, but downloads it now to use? No Or does his computer have a problem with installing from Hard media Noish, and consequently the ONLY way he can install a programme is to download it Not exactly but OTRT , but being a law abiding citizen with a disdain for software piracy, he purchases the relevent media to appease his conscience... Yes | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 467 Registered: 8-2005 |
If he bought the original first then took it home on disk could he install it? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 468 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is his location relevant? | ||
| Psymann (Psymann)
New member Username: Psymann Post Number: 50 Registered: 7-2007 |
Can he only buy the products by download, or via a media for which his computer doesn't have a drive? Eg other than downloading, he can only buy on CDs, but his computer's CD player is broken? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 397 Registered: 4-2007 |
Are the downloaded copies identical to the bought copies? No Are there extra goodies in the downloaded version? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 269 Registered: 5-2007 |
If he bought the original first then took it home on disk could he install it? Please rephrase - I am not sure what you mean by "the original" Can he only buy the products by download, or via a media for which his computer doesn't have a drive? No Eg other than downloading, he can only buy on CDs, but his computer's CD player is broken? No Are there extra goodies in the downloaded version? Noish | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 332 Registered: 6-2007 |
in the puzzle you say he does this "often".. is it relevant how frequently he buys software? is it above the average home user? is it at a pro level? is there something relevant about his computer? his internet connection? hardware? is type of software relevant? does he misinterpret something? is tehre any relevance to his store receipt? is a condition of Jim relevant? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 469 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is his location relevant? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 272 Registered: 5-2007 |
in the puzzle you say he does this "often".. is it relevant how frequently he buys software? Not directly although it might give you some clues is it above the average home user? Probably is it at a pro level? He is not a professional in the software field, if that's what you mean... is there something relevant about his computer? Yes his internet connection? No hardware? Possibly is type of software relevant? Yes does he misinterpret something? No is tehre any relevance to his store receipt? No is a condition of Jim relevant? No | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 345 Registered: 6-2007 |
Don't forget Martinfg's question ;) | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 401 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the downloaded version for a different Operating System? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 274 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is his location relevant? No Is the downloaded version for a different Operating System? No | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 470 Registered: 8-2005 |
If he bought the software from a shop took it home could he install and use it on his computer? (i.e. without downloading it as well!) | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 275 Registered: 5-2007 |
If he bought the software from a shop took it home could he install and use it on his computer? (i.e. without downloading it as well!) No | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 351 Registered: 6-2007 |
relevant whether it is PC or mac? laptop? age of computer relevant? type of software... OS? office? email? IM? imaging? video? game? audio? related to an externally connected device? internet browsing? antivirus? educational? does it concern only one application? a variety? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 279 Registered: 5-2007 |
relevant whether it is PC or mac?No laptop?Irrelevant age of computer relevant? No type of software... OS? office? email? IM? imaging? video? game? This one audio? related to an externally connected device? internet browsing? antivirus? educational? does it concern only one application? a variety? A variety of computer game titles | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 354 Registered: 6-2007 |
need more details on the games? anything to do with the copy protection of pc games? are administrative rights relevant? like you cannot install from cd or dvd unless you have admins? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 282 Registered: 5-2007 |
need more details on the games? See next answer anything to do with the copy protection of pc games? Yes are administrative rights relevant? No like you cannot install from cd or dvd unless you have admins? No | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 471 Registered: 8-2005 |
So the reason he buys the copies from the shop is to stay within the law correct? Do we now need to find out why he downloads them first? Does his PC have a hardware issue that prevents shop bought discs being installed? Can he install anything from a cd? from a dvd? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 284 Registered: 5-2007 |
So the reason he buys the copies from the shop is to stay within the law correct? Yes Do we now need to find out why he downloads them first? Yes Does his PC have a hardware issue that prevents shop bought discs being installed? Yesish Can he install anything from a cd? from a dvd? Most CDs and DVDs he can install just fine, but not these ones... | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 359 Registered: 6-2007 |
if Jim bought a brand new game which he had never installed before, on CDrom, would he be able to install it? is there a relevant application which would prevent this? is he using a virtual drive? is he using Deamon tools? alcohol 120%? disc image emulator? are trial versions relevant? relevant whether Jim has had trouble with copyright law? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 547 Registered: 4-2007 |
are floppy disks relevant? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 436 Registered: 10-2004 |
Is 'Operation Flashpoint' relevent? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 287 Registered: 5-2007 |
Siztyeight is close enough with his questions so I'll post the SPOILER. --- In order to combat video game piracy, game manufacturers have begun putting new forms of copy protection, often known as "Digital Rights Management" or DRM, into their games. This practice is extremely controversial because many gamers have reported that the copy protection stops them from playing even legitimate copies of games. (For example, some copy protection systems keep track of the serial number of the computer's hardware when you install it. While this is unlikely to pose a problem for most computer users, enthusiasts who constantly replace hardware to tune up their computers for maximum performance may inadvertently fool the game into believing it has been copied onto a different computer.) Ironically, this means that for gamers with computer configurations incompatible with copy protection, pirated versions of the games that have had their copy protection hacked are more attractive to own than legitimate copies. However, in order to stay within the spirit of the law, |
