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He died because he wrote the wrong number.
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He = he? Number of digits in the number relevant? Format? Base (e. g. decimal)?
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He = he?no Number of digits in the number relevant?yesish Format?yes Base (e. g. decimal)?yesish
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Profession of dead he relevant? Of wrong-number he? Was the number written in the wrong base (e. g. written in octal instead of decimal or hex instead of decimal or decimal instead of hex etc.)?
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Forgot to ask: Notation relevant (e. g. scientific vs. plain-old)? Or method of marking decimals (e. g. with period or comma)?
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Is it relevant how he died?
Shot? Stabbed? Poisoned? Suicide? Disease? Natural causes?
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Profession of dead he relevant?no Of wrong-number he?yes Was the number written in the wrong base (e. g. written in octal instead of decimal or hex instead of decimal or decimal instead of hex etc.)?no. I guess bases aren't really all that relevant, although it couldn't be any other base than good ol' base 10

Forgot to ask: Notation relevant (e. g. scientific vs. plain-old)?not particularly. it's plain old. Or method of marking decimals (e. g. with period or comma)?no

Is it relevant how he died? yes
Shot?no Stabbed?no Poisoned?yopeishly possible Suicide?no Disease?no Natural causes?no
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was the first he=human? adult/child? male?
was the second he=human? adult/child? male?

was the number a phone number?
maybe number to poison control?
an emergency number? fire? police?

was it an alarm code?

was it his cell phone number? a number where he would be staying?

was the number written for someone else? a babysitter maybe?

was the death an accident?
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Does the number represent a quantity of something? An address? Zip code? Phone number? SSN? Date? A measurement of some kind?
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was the first he=human? adult/child? male?
was the second he=human? adult/child? male?
yes to all

was the number a phone number?no
maybe number to poison control? no
an emergency number? fire? police? no

was it an alarm code? no

was it his cell phone number?no a number where he would be staying? no

was the number written for someone else?someone other than who? it was not intended for the person who wrote it. a babysitter maybe?no

was the death an accident?no

Does the number represent a quantity of something?no An address?no Zip code?no Phone number?no SSN?no Date?yes A measurement of some kind?no
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Ah, US vs. European method of date formatting relevant (MM/DD/YYYY vs. DD/MM/YYYY)?
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was the second he in the field of medicine?
is the exact date relevant?
did he-1 die on the date that he-2 wrote?
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Ah, US vs. European method of date formatting relevant (MM/DD/YYYY vs. DD/MM/YYYY)?no

was the second he in the field of medicine?no
is the exact date relevant? no
did he-1 die on the date that he-2 wrote?no
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Was dead-he executed? Murdered? Accidental death? Were any penguins involved? Was it just a mistake on the part of wrong-number-he? Was the date written earlier than it should've been? Later?
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Was dead-he executed?yes Murdered?no Accidental death?no Were any penguins involved?uhh...no.... Was it just a mistake on the part of wrong-number-he?yes Was the date written earlier than it should've been?no Later?yes
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A pardon?
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A pardon?no
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You're sure about the penguins? Did the wrong date lead to dead-he being convicted? Was dead-he guilty of whatever he was being executed for?
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You're sure about the penguins?I'm sure! Is this a joke I should understand? I feel like I'm being dense!! :-) Did the wrong date lead to dead-he being convicted?noish Was dead-he guilty of whatever he was being executed for?mostly irrel. more likely no
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No, you shouldn't understand it - I'm just weird. (:

Is it relevant why he's being executed? By whom? Which country? Was the date on a receipt? In an appointment book? On a form of some kind? On a letter? Relevant when (i. e. what year) this is set in?
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Is it relevant why he's being executed?noish By whom?noish Which country?not really, the US Was the date on a receipt?no In an appointment book?no On a form of some kind?yes On a letter?no Relevant when (i. e. what year) this is set in?yesish
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Electric chair relevant? Firing range? Off with his head?
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was dead man sentenced to death?
capital punishment?
if not for the wrong number would he have been executed on another day? or not executed at all?
did he die as aresult of the execution?
was the date hand written?
month relevant?
day of the week relevant?
day of the month relevant?
year relevant?
any characteristics of the written date relevant?
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Electric chair relevant?only as a pssible method of executin Firing range? Off with his head?these unlikely

was dead man sentenced to death?yes
capital punishment?yes
if not for the wrong number would he have been executed on another day?possibly or not executed at all?possibly
did he die as aresult of the execution?yes
was the date hand written?irrel
month relevant?no
day of the week relevant?no
day of the month relevant?yes
year relevant?no
any characteristics of the written date relevant?no
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Was the date as written...

...the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...before the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...after the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...the day the execution actually took place?
...before the day the execution actually took place?
...after the day the execution actually took place?

Was the date that was supposed to be written...

...the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...before the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...after the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...the day the execution actually took place?
...before the day the execution actually took place?
...after the day the execution actually took place?
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was the date his DOB?

if so by putting his DOB as later - did he seem technically younger than he actually was?
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Was the date as written...

...the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...before the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...after the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...the day the execution actually took place?
...before the day the execution actually took place?
...after the day the execution actually took place?
none of these

Was the date that was supposed to be written...

...the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...before the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...after the day the execution was supposed to happen?
...the day the execution actually took place?
...before the day the execution actually took place?
...after the day the execution actually took place?
none of these

was the date his DOB? no

if so by putting his DOB as later - did he seem technically younger than he actually was?so no
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Did wrong-date-he work for the government? DNA relevant?
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Did wrong-date-he work for the government?yes DNA relevant?no
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Department of corrections? County clerk? Justice Dept.? Was the date supposed to be the current date at the time it was written? Was it a date about the executed guy (e. g. birth date, arrest date, trial date etc.)? Was it written before he was convicted? Before he was arrested?
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Department of corrections?no County clerk?no Justice Dept.?no Was the date supposed to be the current date at the time it was written?no Was it a date about the executed guy (e. g. birth date, arrest date, trial date etc.)?yes Was it written before he was convicted?no Before he was arrested?no
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Relevant that capital punishment was banned in the US for a time? Was he elected? Appointed? Just hired?
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Relevant that capital punishment was banned in the US for a time?no Was he elected? Appointed?this Just hired?
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Was the date related to his execution? His appeal?
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Was the date related to his execution?no His appeal?yes
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Was this the court clerk or something? His appeal ended up being scheduled after his execution? Thus he lost out on a chance to be exonerated?
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Was this the court clerk or something?no His appeal ended up being scheduled after his execution?no Thus he lost out on a chance to be exonerated?but yes
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D. A.? Public defender? Was it the date of his appeal? Was it written on the paperwork requesting the appeal (I don't even know if there is such a thing, but the guv'mint really really likes paperwork)?
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D. A.?no Public defender?no Was it the date of his appeal?yope Was it written on the paperwork requesting the appeal (I don't even know if there is such a thing, but the guv'mint really really likes paperwork)?no
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does it have anything to do with the statute of limitations?

did he commit a crime a certain date, but it was recorded as a later date? if this, could he have been exonerated if the correct date had been entered because the time for any legal action to take place had already really passed?
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does it have anything to do with the statute of limitations? no
did he commit a crime a certain date, but it was recorded as a later date?no if this, could he have been exonerated if the correct date had been entered because the time for any legal action to take place had already really passed?no
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did anything relevant occur on the written date?
would the correct date have been the date he should appear in court? for an appeal?
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did anything relevant occur on the written date?no
would the correct date have been the date he should appear in court?noish for an appeal?noish or yope
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Related to his appeal...earliest date he could appeal? Had he been sentenced already when the date was written?
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Related to his appeal...earliest date he could appeal?no... Had he been sentenced already when the date was written?possibly, let's say yes
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was the day of the month 2 digits? did he reverse 2 digits when he wrote the date?
was he convicted of murder?
are degrees of murder relevant? in terms of exoneration?
is more than one crime relevant?
more than 1 criminal?
another person in the field of justice? law?
another person? people? juror? lawyer?
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Hiya. Nice headscratcher of a puzzle!

Is the age of the dead-he relevant? Like, being tried as an adult and being eligible for the death penalty?

Does the day of the week have anything to do with the Sabbath? Like, the U.S. justice system does not carry out executions on the Sabbath.
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was the day of the month 2 digits?yes did he reverse 2 digits when he wrote the date?no
was he convicted of murder? irrel
are degrees of murder relevant?no in terms of exoneration? no
is more than one crime relevant? no
more than 1 criminal? no
another person in the field of justice?no law? no
another person? people? juror? lawyer? none

Hiya. Nice headscratcher of a puzzle!

Is the age of the dead-he relevant?no Like, being tried as an adult and being eligible for the death penalty? no

Does the day of the week have anything to do with the Sabbath?no Like, the U.S. justice system does not carry out executions on the Sabbath.I didn't know that. How about that.
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was the day of the month the only thing that needed to be changed to make the correct date?
was the written day 1 thru 15?
was it written by law enforcement? sheriff? cop? FBI?
we determined that the writer of the wrong date is not somone in the branch of justice, right? is it someone appointed by the executive branch? legislative?

was the significant wrong-date document reviewed by the court? by a judge?
would the deceased have known what the correct date should be?
was the document reviewed by anyone before the execution?
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was the day of the month the only thing that needed to be changed to make the correct date?yes
was the written day 1 thru 15?no
was it written by law enforcement? sheriff? cop? FBI? none
we determined that the writer of the wrong date is not somone in the branch of justice, right?yes is it someone appointed by the executive branch?this I believe legislative?

was the significant wrong-date document reviewed by the court?yes by a judge?yes
would the deceased have known what the correct date should be? no
was the document reviewed by anyone before the execution?yes
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Was the date non-existent? Or non-existent that year (ie: February 29)?
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Was the date non-existent?no Or non-existent that year (ie: February 29)?no
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Was the date between 15 and 20? 20 and 25? 25 and 30? 31?

The position was appointed by the executive branch? So was it:
US Supreme Court Justice? Secretary of State? Secretary of the Treasury? Secretary of Defense? Secretary of the Army/Navy/Air Force? (Is this related to the military at all?) Attorney General? Secretary of Agriculture/Commerce/Labor/Health and Human Services? Surgeon General (hm.. date an expiration date of an antidote would be funny)? Secretary of Transportation or Housing or Energy (power outage of electric chair =P )? Secretary of Education? Secretary of Homeland Security? US Attorney? US District Judge? Judge of the US court of appeal? National Security advisor? White House Counsel? Director of the Central Intelligence Agency? Commission on Civil Rights?
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Was the date between 15 and 20? 20 and 25? 25 and 30? 31? Which date? The date written or the date that should have been written? The date written was 27, the date it should have been is 24

The position was appointed by the executive branch?yes So was it:
US District Judge?this, or could be a state court system equivalent
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Now I'm puzzled; I assumed that a judge would be considered part of the Justice System...

Is legislation/court decision about the death penalty relevant? Any other law that went into effect before he was executed? Did the incorrect date mean that he was not eligible for something that would've otherwise saved him? That evidence exonerating him couldn't be used? Wouldn't be found in time?
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Now I'm puzzled; I assumed that a judge would be considered part of the Justice System...yes, well, I debated on how to answer that question before. I think the question was worded Justice Dept, which technically is the cabinet department which is different from the judicial branch of the government...

Is legislation/court decision about the death penalty relevant?no Any other law that went into effect before he was executed?no Did the incorrect date mean that he was not eligible for something that would've otherwise saved him?yes That evidence exonerating him couldn't be used?yope? possibly, but not necessarily Wouldn't be found in time?no
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Was one date on a weekend, or one just before and one just after a weekend?
Was he actually guilty of the crime?
Did the Judge knowingly write the wrong date?
Did the Judge later know the date he wrote caused the man's death?
Did the Judge later regret writing the wrong date?
Was evidence found that cleared the man's name?
The date was related to an "appeal" but was not actually the date of an appeal? Was it the date he could ask for an appeal? Anything to do with bail, or with good behavior?
Does it matter how long after the written date the man was executed?
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Was one date on a weekend, or one just before and one just after a weekend? no
Was he actually guilty of the crime? irrel, we'll say no.
Did the Judge knowingly write the wrong date?no
Did the Judge later know the date he wrote caused the man's death?irrel
Did the Judge later regret writing the wrong date? irrel
Was evidence found that cleared the man's name?possibly, but not necessarily
The date was related to an "appeal" but was not actually the date of an appeal?yesish Was it the date he could ask for an appeal?noish Anything to do with bail, or with good behavior?no
Does it matter how long after the written date the man was executed?no
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Relevant who represented the dead guy in court? Was someone supposed to take some action on the 24th but instead it didn't happen until the 27th? Did the dead guy get an appeal? Is it relevant which judge he would've had the appeal with?
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Relevant who represented the dead guy in court? no Was someone supposed to take some action on the 24th but instead it didn't happen until the 27th?yope Did the dead guy get an appeal?yope...please rephrase Is it relevant which judge he would've had the appeal with?no
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Was an appeal date set for the dead guy? Was he executed before that date? Was what would've happened on the 27th too late because dead guy was already dead? I know that out here in Cafilnoria a death sentence generates an automatic appeal (as opposed to Texas where they just walk you straight from the courtroom to the execution chamber...); is that relevant here?
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Was an appeal date set for the dead guy?yope Was he executed before that date?no Was what would've happened on the 27th too late because dead guy was already dead?no I know that out here in Cafilnoria a death sentence generates an automatic appeal (as opposed to Texas where they just walk you straight from the courtroom to the execution chamber...); is that relevant here?noish
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I keep seeing "Yopes" about the subject of appeal so...

is any actual appeal,or refernce thereof, relevant?
is any pursuit of appeal relevant?
if so, by the one who was executed? or representation therof?
is yope because there a relevant legal motion which is like but not exactly an appeal?
is there a better name for what was planned on the intended date?
if we are talking appeal.. is an appeal for a person other other than the executed one relevant?
is there a relevant mistake or misprint in which one person believes he is referring to an appeal and another person is actually referring to something else?
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I keep seeing "Yopes" about the subject of appeal so...

is any actual appeal,or refernce thereof, relevant? yes
is any pursuit of appeal relevant? yes
if so, by the one who was executed? yes or representation therof? this too
is yope because there a relevant legal motion which is like but not exactly an appeal? no
is there a better name for what was planned on the intended date? no, possibly FA
if we are talking appeal.. is an appeal for a person other other than the executed one relevant? no
is there a relevant mistake or misprint in which one person believes he is referring to an appeal and another person is actually referring to something else? no
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is the date of appeal at all a part of the puzzle?
would an appeal be the relevant factor that would save the man's life according to the puzzle? or is there another potentially life-saving factor here?

does date of appeal have any relationship to intended date in the puzzle? mistaken date?
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is the date of appeal at all a part of the puzzle? yes...ish!!!
would an appeal be the relevant factor that would save the man's life according to the puzzle?yes or is there another potentially life-saving factor here?no

does date of appeal have any relationship to intended date in the puzzle? mistaken date?
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is a stay of execution relevant?
is the intended date a stay of execution?
was an appeal date set?
was the man executed on the wrong date?
was the defendant going for an appeal due to mistrial a result of the wrong date?
was the appeal because of the wrong date?
was an appeal denied?
was the judge who wrote the wrong date a judge from the higher court which was being appealed to?
is there any more relevance to the days of the month other than being 3 days apart?
if only the days were changed to 12 and 15 would the rest of the puzzle stikll work?
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is a stay of execution relevant?no
is the intended date a stay of execution?no
was an appeal date set? yope
was the man executed on the wrong date?no
was the defendant going for an appeal due to mistrial a result of the wrong date? no
was the appeal because of the wrong date? no
was an appeal denied? yes
was the judge who wrote the wrong date a judge from the higher court which was being appealed to? no
is there any more relevance to the days of the month other than being 3 days apart? no
if only the days were changed to 12 and 15 would the rest of the puzzle stikll work?yes
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are any other days critical in relation to the known dates (24 & or 27)? i.e. 1 week before, 1 week after, etc.

relevant why the appeal was denied?
was it denied because of the wrong date?
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are any other days critical in relation to the known dates (24 & or 27)?yes i.e. 1 week before, 1 week after, etc. but not these

relevant why the appeal was denied? yes
was it denied because of the wrong date? yes
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Did something relavent happen between the 24th and 27th? Was it a birthday?
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Did something relavent happen between the 24th and 27th?yes Was it a birthday?no
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Did someone die? Get fired? quit? Was there a change in law? or policy that is relevant?
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Did someone die?do you mean did someone die between those dates? no. Get fired?no quit?no Was there a change in law?no or policy that is relevant?no
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was there a court action between those dates? legal motion? punitive action?

something on the 25th? 26th?


is deadline for appeal relevant?
was the intended or written date a deadline for starting appeal process?
was the deadline between the 24th and 27th?
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was there a court action between those dates? yes legal motion?yesish punitive action?no

something on the 25th? 26th?this


is deadline for appeal relevant? YES!!!
was the intended or written date a deadline for starting appeal process? YES!!!
was the deadline between the 24th and 27th?no
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May I attempt to $p0iL now? :o)

A man was found guilty of murder, and sentenced to death. He then requested an appeal.
The judge accidently wrote that the deadline for starting appeal process was on the 27th. actually it was the 24th.
They filed for appeal on the 26th, 2 days too late, so the appeal was denied. Without appeal he lost his chance to be exonerated, the lower court's decision was affirmed, Thus he was executed.
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May I attempt to $p0iL now? :o)
of course
A man was found guilty of murder, and sentenced to death. He then requested an appeal.
The judge accidently wrote that the deadline for starting appeal process was on the 27th. actually it was the 24th.
They filed for appeal on the 26th, 2 days too late, so the appeal was denied. Without appeal he lost his chance to be exonerated, the lower court's decision was affirmed, Thus he was executed.Exactly! That's a SPOILER

I based this puzzle on an actual case, the only difference being that the real case did not involve the death penalty. But hey, this is a lateral puzzle! Someone had to die!!!

Here's the short article about the real case:

Ohio inmate Keith Bowles may spend the rest of his life in prison just because a federal judge miscalculated Bowles' deadline for appealing his case. Bowles was convicted of murder in 1999, and his federal petition for a writ of habeas corpus was denied in 2004. However, the federal judge wrote "Feb. 27" as the deadline for appealing (mistakenly, because federal rules gave Bowles only until Feb. 24). Bowles' Feb. 26 appeal was dismissed as too late by the U.S. Court of Appeals and, in June 2007, by the U.S. Supreme Court. [New York Times, 6-17-07]

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