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Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I saw Jesus everywhere, but I doubt if many others did
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an actual experience?
anything to do with art?
church?

is location relevant? country? whether "the others" were Christian?
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Good evening!

Did you see something with your eyes? a person? an animal? an object (like a picture?)?
Did what you see physically resemble Jesus? remind you of Jesus? remind you of something about Jesus?
Did you always see the same thing? different things of a kind?
Is it relevant if you are religious or not?
Is there a relevant experience in your life before this? and if you hadn't made this experience you wouldn't see Jesus now?
Did the others see the same thing?
Is the place where you saw Jesus relevant?
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an actual experience?yes, although experience is too strong a word
anything to do with art?yessish
church?no

is location relevant? country? whether "the others" were Christian?yes to all
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Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good evening!good evening!
(I've moved off the laptop, I just can't operate it quickly enough!)

Did you see something with your eyes? yes a person?no an animal? noan object (like a picture?)?yes
Did what you see physically resemble Jesus? yes remind you of Jesus? only in that I saw it and it brought Him to mind remind you of something about Jesus? ditto
Did you always see the same thing? no different things of a kind? what I saw was consistent each time I saw it
Is it relevant if you are religious or not? no - ish
Is there a relevant experience in your life before this? yes and if you hadn't made this experience you wouldn't see Jesus now? sorry, this needs rephrasing
Did the others see the same thing? no
Is the place where you saw Jesus relevant? yes
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Were your physical point of view or perspective different from everybody else's ( as if you were hanging upside down )?
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were the majority of the others..
islamist?
atheist?
Hindu?
Buddhist?
Jewish?
Shintoist?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Were your physical point of view or perspective different from everybody else's ( as if you were hanging upside down )? no

were the majority of the others..
islamist? this one
atheist? with a smattering of these
Hindu?
Buddhist?
Jewish?
Shintoist?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Were your physical point of view or perspective different from everybody else's ( as if you were hanging upside down )? no

on thinking about it, I suppose I could actually say yessish to this one
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were you in..
Northern Africa?
Western Asia?
Central Asia?
Southern Asia?
Turkey?
Iran?
Iraq?
Syria?
Egypt?
Lebanon?
Lynne (Lynne)
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were you in..
Northern Africa? this one
Western Asia?
Central Asia?
Southern Asia?
Turkey?
Iran?
Iraq?
Syria?
Egypt?
Lebanon?
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Morocco? Tunisia? Algeria? Actual country relevant?
Is there a specific relevant experience in your life which made this thing remind you of Jesus? Do you think what you saw would remind me of Jesus? Is the nativity scene relevant? did you see Jesus as a baby? On the cross?
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Is the object reminding you of Jesus made of:
metal? wood? paper? cardboard? glass? stone? concrete? tissue? organic material? plastic? rubber?
Is it longer than 1 cm? 10 cm? 1 m? 10 m? 100 m?
Is it an artwork?
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Morocco? this one Tunisia? Algeria? Actual country relevant? Morocco wouldn't be the only country, so it's not specifically relevant to Morocco
Is there a specific relevant experience in your life which made this thing remind you of Jesus? no - remember that I felt that 'experience' was too strong a word as it has particular connotations Do you think what you saw would remind me of Jesus? it's possible - I know I'm not the only person Is the nativity scene relevant? no did you see Jesus as a baby? no On the cross? no

Is the object reminding you of Jesus made of:
metal? wood? paper? cardboard? glass? stone? concrete? tissue? organic material? plastic? rubber? principally paper, although I saw it on canvas
Is it longer than 1 cm? 10 cm? in one case this1 m? and in another one this10 m? 100 m?
Is it an artwork? yessish
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Was the object a poster? a picture? a photo? a hoarding? was it coloured? was there text on it?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Morocco? this one Tunisia? Algeria? Actual country relevant? Morocco wouldn't be the only country, so it's not specifically relevant to Morocco
Is there a specific relevant experience in your life which made this thing remind you of Jesus? no - remember that I felt that 'experience' was too strong a word as it has particular connotations Do you think what you saw would remind me of Jesus? it's possible - I know I'm not the only person Is the nativity scene relevant? no did you see Jesus as a baby? no On the cross? no

Is the object reminding you of Jesus made of:
metal? wood? paper? cardboard? glass? stone? concrete? tissue? organic material? plastic? rubber? principally paper, although I saw it on canvas
Is it longer than 1 cm? 10 cm? in one case this1 m? and in another one this10 m? 100 m?
Is it an artwork? yessish
Lynne (Lynne)
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Was the object a poster? no a picture? no a photo? no a hoarding? in some cases it would appear on a hoarding was it coloured? yes was there text on it? yes

these are subject to debate, but I've answered the best I can
Lynne (Lynne)
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that's bizarre how my answers of 7.40 reappeared by themselves at 7.58
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Was it a particular shape / pattern that stimulated the association?
Was it the same image that you saw every time that was repeated in various places that you visited?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Was it a particular shape / pattern that stimulated the association? yes
Was it the same image that you saw every time that was repeated in various places that you visited? yes
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Was the thing you saw on a screen?
Is the text relevant? in arabic?
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Was the thing you saw on a screen? no
Is the text relevant? yes in arabic? yes
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Was it the arabic letters reminding you of Jesus?
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Is this shape / pattern a logo or part of a logo?
Is it an aspect of a religious / cultural image?
Is it an aspect of a commercial image?
Presumably it is a common image?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Was it the arabic letters reminding you of Jesus? yes

Is this shape / pattern a logo or part of a logo? yes
Is it an aspect of a religious / cultural image? nothing religious, but everything cultural
Is it an aspect of a commercial image? yes
Presumably it is a common image? oh yes
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Is it relevant where you saw this logo? inside? in particular buildings? outside?
Does the logo represent a company?
Can you see the this logo in Europe:
not at all? less often? more often? than in Morocco?
If this is the case would there be latin letters in Europe? which wouldn't remind you of Jesus?
Lynne (Lynne)
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s it relevant where you saw this logo? inside? in particular buildings? outside? inside, outside, just about anywhere
Does the logo represent a company? yes
Can you see the this logo in Europe: yes
not at all? less often? this one more often? nothan in Morocco?
If this is the case would there be latin letters in Europe? yes which wouldn't remind you of Jesus? correct
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Is it a Moroccan company?
Arabic company?
American?

Are we likely to know the company?
Magic carpets & Co?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Is it a Moroccan company? no
Arabic company? no
American? yes

Are we likely to know the company? oh yes
Magic carpets & Co? hehe, no
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Is the company based in an Arabic country? in Morocco?
Does the company sell objects? provide services?
Is the sector of the company: food? machinery? vehicles? transport? clothes? entertainment? arts?
Are there particular Arabic letters to be found out?
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Is the company based in an Arabic country? no in Morocco? no
Does the company sell objects? yes provide services? no
Is the sector of the company: food? this - ish machinery? vehicles? transport? clothes? entertainment? arts? none of the rest
Are there particular Arabic letters to be found out?only the ones I saw
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Sorry for double questions.
Is the sector drinks? chewing gums? cigarettes?
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Sorry for double questions. no probs
Is the sector drinks? yes chewing gums? cigarettes?
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Pepsi?
Cola?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Pepsi?
Cola? this one

I could go straight to a spoyler, but can you work out my reasoning for my puzzle statement?
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or an alcoholic drink?
Lynne (Lynne)
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or an alcoholic drink?

No alcohol involved in the making of this puzzle. I wasn't tiddly when I made my observations!
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for the purposes of those who skim through a puzzle just reading the bold bits

or an alcoholic drink?

No alcohol involved in the making of this puzzle. I wasn't tiddly when I made my observations!
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Well I never thought I would see so many Cola logos over there?
Well I never thought I would see Jesus over there?
Anyway does it start with "Well I never thought I would see"?
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Well I never thought I would see so many Cola logos over there? no
Well I never thought I would see Jesus over there? yessish
Anyway does it start with "Well I never thought I would see"? that's not the important bit

********* SPOILER *********

The Arabic lettering for Coca Cola looks a bit like the word 'Jesus'. Yes, it's a bit florid, and the letters overlap each other a bit. But as I asked to my family "Does that look like 'Jesus' or does that look like 'Jesus'? - they agreed: as does someone else when I Googled it.

Of course, being a Muslim/Berber country and the fact that the lettering is read from right to left unlike our left to right, then it's unlikely that many other people would see it that way.

It was a wonderful mixture of cultures in Morocco. I can honestly say I saw (crates of) 'Jesus' on a donkey.


I don't want to link directly to a private site from here, but if you do a Google image search for 'Coca Cola Arabic Jesus' you will see find a Flicker photo page with the same observation of the lettering on an awning.
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That's weird - the last poster according to the active puzzles list is supposed to Beroean but there's nothing here - is the forum playing up again, like it repeated one of my posts by itself?
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Perhaps Beroean deleted his last comment, you never know with these moderators...
Thank you for the puzzle.
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He did post, he must have deleted it.

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