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Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 5:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"He died. Why should I?" she thought. This need of her's to ask questions saved her life.
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I = she = her = her?

is she h? a?

is he h? a?

are they in a relationship? boyfriend-girlfriend? married? are they friends? do they work together? strangers?

any jobs relevant?
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I = she = her = her? Yes

is she h? a? Yes

is he h? a? He was, yes :-)

are they in a relationship? boyfriend-girlfriend? married? They were married until he died, yes are they friends? do they work together? strangers?

any jobs relevant? Not yet
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not yet?? hmm any other people involved then? 1? 2?3? 4? 5?

was he murdered? did he kill himself? was it an accident?

was he cheating on her? was she cheating on him?

does Why Should I refer to why should I kill myself? or why should I do something about my husband dying? why should I do something to his body? why should I grieve? why should I arrange his funeral?
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Is there a current and up to date list of methods of death that can be considered posted?
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Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 2:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

if he was murdered, did she kill him?
was life insurance involved in any way? if so, did he have a large payout? was the money going to her?
along the same line, did "why not" refer to why not go ahead and spend his money?

was she having an affair? perhaps why not marry again? why not let an affair be known?

did the "why not" refer to something bad she was thinking of doing or something good she was thinking of doing?

when you said "not yet" to whether jobs were relevant, did you mean that jobs will be relevant later, after some of the other things are solved, or are jobs never relevant?
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Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

not yet?? hmm any other people involved then? Yes 1? 2?3? 4? 5? One significant character more, and several randoms

was he murdered? Yope did he kill himself? No was it an accident? No

was he cheating on her? No was she cheating on him? No, no crimes of passion involved

does Why Should I refer to why should I kill myself? YES! Damn that was quick! or why should I do something about my husband dying? why should I do something to his body? why should I grieve? why should I arrange his funeral? None of the rest

Is there a current and up to date list of methods of death that can be considered posted? There might be, and if you find one I'd be happy to point the relevant one out

if he was murdered, did she kill him? No
was life insurance involved in any way? if so, did he have a large payout? was the money going to her? No
along the same line, did "why not" refer to why not go ahead and spend his money? There is no "why not" in the puzzle statement

was she having an affair? perhaps why not marry again? why not let an affair be known? No, again, no "why not" :-)

did the "why not" refer to something bad she was thinking of doing or something good she was thinking of doing? Beginning to see a trend here hehe...

when you said "not yet" to whether jobs were relevant, did you mean that jobs will be relevant later, after some of the other things are solved, or are jobs never relevant? Read above
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the job:

artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other?

is the person with this job the murderer?
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the job:

artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ? This one
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ? and This
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other?

is the person with this job the murderer? No, and again i said "Yope" to murder, explore. How else could an individual be killed by someone without it be commonly called 'murder'?
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OOPS BLOOPERRRRR:

The 'and This' was for "Teaching / Child care"
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok...just remember that I gave you the chance to not make me post this...

Initial list of possible deaths (reconstruction from memory and definitely incomplete)

Asphyxiation
Airgun shooting
Allergic Reaction
Aeroplane crash
Ate themselves to death
Alligator Attack
Anaesthetic
Beheaded
Boiled
Bullet in brain/other part of body… consider listed
Built into a wall/support for a road/some structure
Bird attack
Bomb attack
Crossbow bolt
Crushed to death
Cubed up
Cat attack
Cooked
Crocodile attack
Dog attack
Donkey attack
Drawn
Drowned
Dagger
Dragged along a road
Duped into going first somewhere (like through a door leading to a deadly situation)
Duped into opening something (like a mail bomb)
Eaten
Electrocution
Executed
Fell off a height
Fell down a hole
Fell into water
Fell in front of a bus/ car/other type of vehicle
Fell from a horse/another animal
Fell from a vehicle
Frozen to death
Gored by an animal
Gnu attack
Gunshot
Gun whipped
Garotted
Hung
Hauled in front of a moving vehicle.
Heart Attack
Heart surgery
Horse riding accident
Ice cubes containing poison.
Ice pick in the head
Ice cube melts under feet of victim wearing noose
Jack-knifed vehicle placing victim in deadly situation
Knife attack
Keelhauled
Killed in some fashion not yet covered by this list
Laughed themselves to death
Left to die by “friend”
Left to die by an animal
Left to die by enemy
Left friends to die quietly (a la Captain Oates)
Lack of oxygen (in space)
Lack of Oxygen (in water)
Murdered by person or persons unknown
Murdered by person or person known
Mauled by lions/animals
Made to kill themselves
Made to drink poison
Made to do some reckless act that might (did) lead to death
Meathook in back
Nailed to a cross/other item
Nightmare causing heart attack
Nightshade (deadly)
Natural causes
Over fed
Over medicated
Overrun by enemies
Overrun by insects
Overrun by animals
Old age
Placed in a deadly situation by friends
Placed in a deadly situation by enemies
Placed in a deadly situation by strangers
Poisoned
Pendulum of death (Poe)
Quartered
Raped, and left for dead
Run over by ?????
Run over by a reindeer
Reindeer attack
Run through with a sword
Rain of unusual items
RTC (Road traffic collision)
Stabbed
Shot
Strung up
Shock
Sword
Shotgun
Truncheon
Took bad advice
Under fed
Under medicated
Vehicle dropped on unsuspecting victim
Whipped to death
X-ray exposure
Yak attack
Yachting accident (ever had a boom hit you on the head???)
Zebra crossing
Zebra attack
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok...just remember that I gave you the chance to not make me post this...

Initial list of possible deaths (reconstruction from memory and definitely incomplete)

AAAAAAARGHHH!!!

Asphyxiation
Airgun shooting
Allergic Reaction
Aeroplane crash
Ate themselves to death
Alligator Attack
Anaesthetic
Beheaded
Boiled
Bullet in brain/other part of body… consider listed
Built into a wall/support for a road/some structure
Bird attack
Bomb attack
Crossbow bolt
Crushed to death
Cubed up
Cat attack
Cooked
Crocodile attack
Dog attack
Donkey attack
Drawn
Drowned
Dagger
Dragged along a road
Duped into going first somewhere (like through a door leading to a deadly situation)
Duped into opening something (like a mail bomb)
Eaten
Electrocution
Executed
Fell off a height
Fell down a hole
Fell into water
Fell in front of a bus/ car/other type of vehicle
Fell from a horse/another animal
Fell from a vehicle
Frozen to death
Gored by an animal
Gnu attack
Gunshot
Gun whipped
Garotted
Hung
Hauled in front of a moving vehicle.
Heart Attack
Heart surgery
Horse riding accident
Ice cubes containing poison.
Ice pick in the head
Ice cube melts under feet of victim wearing noose
Jack-knifed vehicle placing victim in deadly situation
Knife attack
Keelhauled
Killed in some fashion not yet covered by this list
Laughed themselves to death
Left to die by “friend”
Left to die by an animal
Left to die by enemy
Left friends to die quietly (a la Captain Oates)
Lack of oxygen (in space)
Lack of Oxygen (in water)
Murdered by person or persons unknown
Murdered by person or person known
Mauled by lions/animals
Made to kill themselves
Made to drink poison
Made to do some reckless act that might (did) lead to death
Meathook in back
Nailed to a cross/other item
Nightmare causing heart attack
Nightshade (deadly)
Natural causes
Over fed
Over medicated
Overrun by enemies
Overrun by insects
Overrun by animals
Old age
Placed in a deadly situation by friends
Placed in a deadly situation by enemies
Placed in a deadly situation by strangers
Poisoned
Pendulum of death (Poe)
Quartered
Raped, and left for dead
Run over by ?????
Run over by a reindeer
Reindeer attack
Run through with a sword
Rain of unusual items
RTC (Road traffic collision)
Stabbed This one, and I've been permanently scarred by reading your list... lol
Shot
Strung up
Shock
Sword By this
Shotgun
Truncheon
Took bad advice
Under fed
Under medicated
Vehicle dropped on unsuspecting victim
Whipped to death
X-ray exposure
Yak attack
Yachting accident (ever had a boom hit you on the head???)
Zebra crossing
Zebra attack
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well I did try and give you the easy way out...


So stabbed by a sword. Is the other significant person the killer?
Manslaughter?
So is it an accidental stabbing? Was the sword supposed to be blunted?
if she hadn't asked the question (aloud?) would she have died the same way? If not then consider list reposted in this respect!

Was he the "teacher"? She? both?
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Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So stabbed by a sword. Is the other significant person the killer? No, as answered before
Manslaughter? No
So is it an accidental stabbing? Was the sword supposed to be blunted? No
if she hadn't asked the question (aloud?) would she have died the same way? She thought it, as you can glean from the puzzle statement... and she would not have killed her self in a yopishly 'murder' way If not then consider list reposted in this respect!

Was he the "teacher"? She? both? Neither, the job became relevant with the third person, so yea, the third person was the teacher

Also from your list, she would have killed herself by something close to:

Made to kill themselves
Placed in a deadly situation by friends
Placed in a deadly situation by strangers
Cooked (Tangentially lol)
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Did she ask the question out loud?

I left out burnt on the list didn't I... told you it was incomplete!

So did the teacher try to make her kill herself?
Did asking the question make her realise that there was another way out, besides the way that lead to death?

Since you didn't put made to kill themselves on my list for him... was she made to kill him?

AHA! would electrocution/executed on the list have matched to her would be death as well?
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 9:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she ask the question out loud? Read the puzzle statement

I left out burnt on the list didn't I... told you it was incomplete! Haha yeah, I found that pretty funny :-D There was "Laughed themselves to death" and "Yak attack" but no "Burnt" lol

So did the teacher try to make her kill herself? No
Did asking the question make her realise that there was another way out, besides the way that lead to death? Yes

Since you didn't put made to kill themselves on my list for him... was she made to kill him? No

AHA! would electrocution/executed on the list have matched to her would be death as well? No.. as well???
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If I pass several thousand volts of electricity throught your body it would burn you quite badly wouldn't it? (I was pursuing a thought where she was being put in a place to carry the can for the death...allowing oneself to be executed would pretty much account for those codes.)

Puzzle statement says she thought it, but didn't exclude the possiblity that she voiced it as well.

So we have excluded murder and manslaughter... what remains? war? was he in a battle? Are the pair together when he dies? does she witness it, or just see the body after/hear he has died?
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If I pass several thousand volts of electricity throught your body it would burn you quite badly wouldn't it? (I was pursuing a thought where she was being put in a place to carry the can for the death...allowing oneself to be executed would pretty much account for those codes.) IRR

Puzzle statement says she thought it, but didn't exclude the possiblity that she voiced it as well. It doesn't exclude a lot of other possibilities as well. No, she only thought it.

So we have excluded murder and manslaughter... what remains? war? Yes! Well done. was he in a battle? Yes Are the pair together when he dies? No does she witness it No, or just see the body after/hear he has died? afterq
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So he is killed in battle... on the losing side? as a consequence she ends up in a situation that is life-threatening?... was he the friend refered to by in "placed in a deadly situation by friends"?

She is due to be burnt... accident? deliberate? sacrifice? Suttee?

Just realised set up questions not asked... real life? FYOI? book? press? song?
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 6:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So he is killed in battle... on the losing side? IRR as a consequence she ends up in a situation that is life-threatening? Yope... was he the friend refered to by in "placed in a deadly situation by friends"? No, but again, that's a vague reference to what happened don't focus on it

She is due to be burnt... accident? deliberate? sacrifice? Suttee? Suttee! Well done :-D

Just realised set up questions not asked... real life? FYOI? book? press? song? real life situation FMOI

Woah! Didn't expect you'd think of suttee :-D Great job!

******************SPOILER********************
She was a young woman, newly married. Her husband died in a war, and according to the ancient custom of 'Sati' she was to join him in his funeral pyre. Her village was secluded and extremely orthodox. So no wonder, they expected her to fulfill the custom, and if she didn't go voluntarily they would have probably forced her into the fire.

Fortunately, she was one of the few girls who had been allowed to go to the nearby school, where she had developed a good rapport with the teacher. She went back to the old man and informed him of her plight. He immediately directed her to the women's refuge in the city, and she was saved from a horrible death.

Sati was a Hindu funeral custom, now very rare, in which the widow would immolate herself on her husband’s funeral pyre.

The term is derived from the original name of the goddess Sati also known as Dakshayani, who immolated herself, unable to bear the humiliation of her (living) husband Shiva by her father Daksha. The term may also be used to refer to the widow herself. The term sati is now sometimes interpreted as 'chaste woman'.

A lot of Hindus (including me) believe this practice to be a misinterpretation of that story, which was meant to symbolize the chastity of the female and not the burning of the widow.

Thankfully, the Indian government has established a task force to ensure this practice remains abolished.

Thanks for playing along!
Great job Tsoram!
Cheers, and do keep cracking at my other puzzle Quick! 3.0 (which is turning out to be not so much of a quickie, my apologies)
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 6:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shows the advantage of a long list... putting all the descriptions together helped me to come up with that ...Good Puzzle!
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Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yup! Nice job :-D and a VERY entertaining list haha

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