| Author | Message | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 296 Registered: 8-2001 |
This is either going to be very easy or very difficult... Holden had been waiting for word about 4 new residents all afternoon. When the call finally came he answered on the first ring. "Yeah?" he barked into the receiver. "They're here. The oldest is male and…" Holden grunted his thanks and hung up without another word, satisfied. Why? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1168 Registered: 6-2001 |
how exactly does one pronounce 'and…" '? Were there four of them? Was the oldest male? were any others female? relevant how old they were? Was Holden the owner of the place the people were going to be residents of? Is it a hotel? hostel? house? apartment? prison? | ||
| Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone Post Number: 43 Registered: 9-2007 |
Residents = human? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 297 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm - how exactly does one pronounce 'and…" '? Are you making fun of my ellipsis? Were there four of them? yes Was the oldest male? yes were any others female? no relevant how old they were? Somewhat... Was Holden the owner of the place the people were going to be residents of? yes Is it a hotel? hostel? house? apartment? prison? None of these. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 298 Registered: 8-2001 |
Obaone Residents = human? No | ||
| Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2007 |
Residents = Animals? Plants? Inanimate? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 299 Registered: 8-2001 |
Obaone Residents = Animals? This one Plants? Inanimate? | ||
| Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2007 |
Barnyard animals? Horses? Pigs? Chickens? Ducks? Cows? Mini-cows (they make those now I hear)? Alpaca? Other domestic animal? Dogs? cats? Rodents? Wild animal? Reptile? Amphibian? Mammmal? Bird? Fish? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 300 Registered: 8-2001 |
Obaone Barnyard animals? Horses? Pigs? Chickens? Ducks? Cows? Mini-cows (they make those now I hear)? Alpaca? Other domestic animal? Dogs? cats? Rodents? Wild animal? YES Reptile? Amphibian? Mammmal? YES (to mammal ;) Me thinks your m's got away from you there...) Bird? Fish? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2120 Registered: 2-2001 |
Zoo? Shelter? Preserve? Are they alive? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 303 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo Zoo? yes Shelter? Preserve? No to both Are they alive? Yes | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2122 Registered: 2-2001 |
Uh, they aren't - by any chance - lions, are they? (; | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 305 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo Uh, they aren't - by any chance - lions, are they? (; No...am I missing something? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2123 Registered: 2-2001 |
I have a vague recollection of teasing you about lions in your puzzles at some point, but my memory is either not what it used-to-was or it wasn't what it used-to-was to begin with. So, native to: Africa? North America? South America? Asia? Europe? Australia? Antarctica? | ||
| Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone Post Number: 51 Registered: 9-2007 |
The man was mightily mollified because he had a male mammal for mating? ahem...sorry | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 306 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo I have a vague recollection of teasing you about lions in your puzzles at some point, but my memory is either not what it used-to-was or it wasn't what it used-to-was to begin with. Heh. Neither is mine so... So, native to: Africa? North America? South America? Asia? Europe? Australia? Antarctica? North, South and Central America Yes, I do belatedly realize this puts you friends across the pond at a bit of a disadvantage. Oops? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2124 Registered: 2-2001 |
Eh, the fiends across the pond can figger it out wit' da rest of us...and yes, I left the "r" out on dolphin, so there. Oh, I also think (hope) Obaone means to other critters of the same species (yikes). So, canine? Ursine? Rodent? Feline? Size of a domestic feline? Bigger? | ||
| Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone Post Number: 52 Registered: 9-2007 |
Well... I guess I mean it in whatever sense will help us solve the puzzle! | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 307 Registered: 8-2001 |
Obaone The man was mightily mollified because he had a male mammal for mating?Not so much. Though he did now have a male that could be used for mating... ahem...sorry Alliteration means never having to say you're sorry... Bodo So, canine? Ursine? Rodent? Feline? Ursine is bears, right? So no to all Size of a domestic feline? Yes,approx. Bigger?....and therefore, No. | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2126 Registered: 2-2001 |
Skunk? Armadillo? Prarie dog/groundhog? Beaver? That-quilled-thing-I-can't-think-of-the-name-of-to-save-my-life? Got it! Porcupine? Ringtail? Raccoon? Pig? I don't think there are any ruminants native to the Americas that are that small, but I could be mistaken. | ||
| Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone Post Number: 56 Registered: 9-2007 |
Suirrel? (I don't know why you would want to put one in a zoo but..even so...) Do the males of the species have some kind of defining feature Holden desires that the females do not? Is it a physical feature? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 310 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo Skunk? Armadillo? YES Prarie dog/groundhog? Beaver? That-quilled-thing-I-can't-think-of-the-name-of-to-save-my-life? Got it! Porcupine? Good for you and No Ringtail? Raccoon? Pig? Obaone SQuirrel?no Do the males of the species have some kind of defining feature Holden desires that the females do not? Is it a physical feature? No to both and perhaps a bit of a False assumption going on here... | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2131 Registered: 2-2001 |
Uh, he was satisfied because they weren't run over on the way to the zoo (I hear that's a habit of theirs)? Hanson's disease relevant? Is there some characteristic of male armadillos that we need to know? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1170 Registered: 6-2001 |
If the statement had started "the youngest is male" would he have been equally satisfied? Is it that he concludes from the wording that at least one of them must be female, otherwise the person speaking would have just said "they're all male"? And is that supposed to be an ellipsis? as in "..."? To me it looks like an a with a circumflex accent followed by a euro symbol followed by an exclamation mark! | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 312 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo Uh, he was satisfied because they weren't run over on the way to the zoo (I hear that's a habit of theirs)? *snerk* No Hanson's disease relevant?Nope Is there some characteristic of male armadillos that we need to know? NO Bentarm If the statement had started "the youngest is male" would he have been equally satisfied? YES Is it that he concludes from the wording that at least one of them must be female, otherwise the person speaking would have just said "they're all male"? No And is that supposed to be an ellipsis? as in "..."? To me it looks like an a with a circumflex accent followed by a euro symbol followed by an exclamation mark! What the - What browser are you using? I'm on Firefox and it appears just as I typed it - three dots in row. A perfect ellipsis. What on earth is going on? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2141 Registered: 2-2001 |
I'm on Firefox as well - 2.0.0.7 - and it looks as John described (ending in a vertical bar rather than an exclamation mark). Looks the same on IE. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 316 Registered: 8-2001 |
Then why do I see it as I typed it? Hello? Anyone more tech-brilliant than I - help? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1174 Registered: 6-2001 |
If the statement had started "one of them is male", would that have worked? If it had started "the prettiest is male"? If it had started "the oldest is female"? Is the only relevant thing he got from the statement that at least one of the armadillos is male? Is at least one of them female? relevant? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1175 Registered: 6-2001 |
and yes, it is a vertical bar rather than an exclamation mark - I just wasn't looking closely enough. Still, definitely not an ellipsis | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 319 Registered: 8-2001 |
If the statement had started "one of them is male", would that have worked? Yes If it had started "the prettiest is male"? Yes as well If it had started "the oldest is female"? Yes-ish, but certainly not for the setup provided. Put another way, if the person had said "The oldest is female" Holden's reaction would have been the same. Is the only relevant thing he got from the statement that at least one of the armadillos is male? Yes... Is at least one of them female? relevant? No (not of the four) and YES | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1176 Registered: 6-2001 |
were they all brothers? Are armadillos born in sets of identical siblings? did he know from the statement that they were all male? Did he know beforehand that at least one of them was male? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1177 Registered: 6-2001 |
have they just been born? Are they being delivered from somewhere? Or born inside the zoo? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 322 Registered: 8-2001 |
Nicely done, Bentarm! ******* SPOILER ******* Holden was a head zookeep at the local zoo and had been waiting for news about a female armadillo who was expecting. When one of his keepers called at reported "They're here. The oldest is male - " Holden hung up because that one statement told him the gender of all four babies. Nine-banded Armadillos (the specific armadillos in question here) have four identical pups, stemming from a single fertilized egg, every birth. They are very popular in medical research because they are susceptible to some of the same diseases as humans and come with their own ready-made control group. Other random armadillo fact: Female armadillos can delay implantation of a fertilized egg for up to two YEARS if conditions aren't favorable for having young. Human females are terribly jealous. That didn't go too bad for my first time back in ages! | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2143 Registered: 2-2001 |
Nice puzzle, Andrea. Aren't they the only other animal suscept...suspecti...susepct...what can done get Hanson's? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 323 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hanson's being the PC name for leprosy? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2145 Registered: 2-2001 |
Well, I thought it were the proper-like name, but anyhow Wiki says that chimpanzees, sooty mangabeys, and cynomolgus macaques can also get it. So I guess I answered my own question. | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 249 Registered: 8-2007 |
Interesting puzzle, but i found my version of that confusing "...and???" somewhat more curious. Using a Thai computer, I saw "...and(thai letter = long o sound)(Euro dollar symbol)(another thai letter = m sound)" the pronunciation of which is further complicated by the fact that the long o sound is said AFTER the consonant it precedes. So it appeared to say: "...and-euro-ohm" cept the euro and ohm sounds should run together in a nice long ohhh. Tricky. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 324 Registered: 8-2001 |
Suido - Very complicated!! Thai is a beautiful language and I've always meant to pick up some basic words/phrases but wow the written language looks daunting! | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 260 Registered: 8-2007 |
There're 44 consonants, 32 vowels, plus variant vowel forms, tone marks and a few other symbols. Add to this the fact that a lot of basic words don't bother with vowels, you're just expected to know the word... Heaps of fun :-P I've only just begun learning it, my favourite so far is 555, which is Thai netspeak for LOL. When you know that 5 is pronounced 'Ha', it all makes sense. |
