| Author | Message | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2007 |
A spurned lover intent on murder shows up at his ex's college dorm. He is able to get into the building, but he knows he can't stay too long, or risk being seen. Inside he finds her room, as well as to everyone else's, locked and empty, and he has no idea where to find her. The bathroom and kitchen are also under lock and key. But he planned for this. Within hours she is dead. How did he do it? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1073 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is she actually on campus at the time of her death? Is he actually on campus at the time of her death? At the time of her death, is he in a kitchen? In a bedroom? In a bathroom? In a lecture theatre? Does he own any keys? Does he enter any of the students' rooms on the day of the killing? Are mobile phones relevant? Lecture halls? Would this work in a rugby club? A church? A swimming baths? A betting shop? Does he actually carry out the killing himself? Are all "hes" the same person in the puzzle statement? Are all "shes" the same person (ie the victim) in the puzzle statement? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2007 |
Is she actually on campus at the time of her death? Probably. Is he actually on campus at the time of her death? Irrelevant. At the time of her death, is he in a kitchen? In a bedroom? In a bathroom? In a lecture theatre? Irrelevant. Does he own any keys? No. Does he enter any of the students' rooms on the day of the killing? No. Are mobile phones relevant? No. Lecture halls? No. Would this work in a rugby club? A church? A swimming baths? A betting shop? Unlikely in these places. Does he actually carry out the killing himself? Yesish. Are all "hes" the same person in the puzzle statement? Yes. Are all "shes" the same person (ie the victim) in the puzzle statement? Yes. Good questions. | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 9 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did he poison her? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1258 Registered: 6-2001 |
Did anyone else die? Everyone else? Did he cause a massive nuclear apocalypse, and the trip to the campus is just a diversion? Does she go back to her room before she dies? Does she touch anything that he touched? Does he know which one is her room? Does he touch the door to her room? Is it relevant that he's her ex? Because it means he knows something about her dorm? Her habits? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1001 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he have any lockpicks? is gas relevant? fire? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 493 Registered: 10-2004 |
Does she have an allergy to something? for example, a severe allergy to peanuts, and he spreads peanut butter on the doorhandle? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2007 |
Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:09 am: Did he poison her? Yes. Bentarm (Bentarm) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 1:18 am: Did anyone else die? No. Everyone else? Did he cause a massive nuclear apocalypse, and the trip to the campus is just a diversion? No, but I like this answer much more than mine. XD Does she go back to her room before she dies? Yes. Does she touch anything that he touched? Yes. Does he know which one is her room? Yes. Does he touch the door to her room? Noish. Is it relevant that he's her ex? Yes. Because it means he knows something about her dorm? No. Her habits? YES. ~damia~ (~damia~) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:49 am: did he have any lockpicks? is gas relevant? fire? No to all. Zenith (Zenith) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 1:08 pm: Does she have an allergy to something? for example, a severe allergy to peanuts, and he spreads peanut butter on the doorhandle? No to all. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 290 Registered: 9-2007 |
Hmm habits. Some extreme form of habits relevant? a symptom of OCD perhaps? a superstition? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hmm habits. Some extreme form of habits relevant? a symptom of OCD perhaps? a superstition? No, nothing particularly unusual. | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1271 Registered: 6-2001 |
Did he interact with the door to her room in any way? Does she have a personal letterbox? In the door to her room? relevant? Did she ingest the poison? inhale it? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2007 |
Did he interact with the door to her room in any way? Not the door, no. Does she have a personal letterbox? No.In the door to her room? relevant? No. Did she ingest the poison? This.inhale it? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1006 Registered: 9-2003 |
does she regularly touch something on her way back to her room? something around her door? in the corridor? does she touch something then put her hand to her mouth? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1273 Registered: 6-2001 |
Does he go into her kitchen at any point? Touch anything with which she prepares? eats? her food. Did she ingest it with a liquid? solid? from her hands? Does she bit her nails? relevant? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 18 Registered: 10-2007 |
~damia~ (~damia~) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 3:44 pm: does she regularly touch something on her way back to her room? No, but...something around her door? Something around the door is relevant.in the corridor? does she touch something then put her hand to her mouth? No. You're thinking along the right lines. Bentarm (Bentarm) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 4:00 pm: Does he go into her kitchen at any point? No. Touch anything with which she prepares? eats? her food. No to all. Did she ingest it with a liquid? solid? Hard to answer. Solid, I suppose. from her hands? Does she bit her nails? relevant? No to rest. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1010 Registered: 9-2003 |
does she need to hold something in her mouth in order to do something else? like holding a purse or something in her mouth whilst using her door key? something left outside her door? was there a paper outside her door? is the door itself relevant? the doorknob? doorframe? maybe a letterbox/knocker/bell if its more like an outside door? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2202 Registered: 2-2001 |
Is she Jewish? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2007 |
~damia~ (~damia~) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 5:00 pm: does she need to hold something in her mouth in order to do something else? Very close. like holding a purse or something in her mouth whilst using her door key? No... something left outside her door? was there a paper outside her door? No. is the door itself relevant? the doorknob? doorframe? maybe a letterbox/knocker/bell if its more like an outside door? No part of the actual door is involved. Bodo (Bodo) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 5:02 pm: Is she Jewish? Irrelevant, but I see where you were going. | ||
| Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo)
New member Username: Strongplacebo Post Number: 179 Registered: 10-2005 |
He was 'intent on murder'... was it actually his ex he wanted to kill? Do we need to know more about his motive for murder? Does he tamper with her medication? Makeup? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 732 Registered: 4-2007 |
poison on toothpaste? toothbrush? hairband/ribbon, etc that she would put in mouth as she put hair in ponytail? poison on book/magazine pages? where you put poison on book pages, she licks thumb to turn page, and poison ends up on thumb, which she licks again to turn another page? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1016 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it outside her door she got poisoned? before she reached her door? after she had opened it? does she need 2 hands free to open the door? does she keep the key somewhere relevant? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 495 Registered: 10-2004 |
Does she have a habit of putting her keys in her mouth, either when entering her room whilst carrying her bags in, or for any number of reasons? If so, does he poison the keyhole? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2007 |
Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo) Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:31 pm: He was 'intent on murder'... was it actually his ex he wanted to kill? Yes. Do we need to know more about his motive for murder? No. Does he tamper with her medication? Makeup? Nope. Booklover (Booklover) New member Username: Booklover Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 12:15 am: poison on toothpaste? toothbrush? No.hairband/ribbon, etc that she would put in mouth as she put hair in ponytail? No. poison on book/magazine pages? where you put poison on book pages, she licks thumb to turn page, and poison ends up on thumb, which she licks again to turn another page? No to rest, but all interesting ways to kill people. ~damia~ (~damia~) Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 9:58 am: is it outside her door she got poisoned? Somewhere outside her room, yes. before she reached her door? No. after she had opened it? Yes, and be careful. does she need 2 hands free to open the door? does she keep the key somewhere relevant? Irrelevant. Zenith (Zenith) Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 3:13 pm: Does she have a habit of putting her keys in her mouth, either when entering her room whilst carrying her bags in, or for any number of reasons? No...If so, does he poison the keyhole? No, good one though. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1022 Registered: 9-2003 |
sorry did she get poisoned outside her room and inside it? did she carry a poisoned item for a while? did she first get poisoned while outside the building? whilst coming through the door to the building? whilst going to her room? just looking back at previous questions, haven't just asked does she put something in her mouth? something that was in the building? | ||
| Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo)
New member Username: Strongplacebo Post Number: 184 Registered: 10-2005 |
Did he ever get inside her room on this occasion? Has he been here previously to set up part of his plan? Does she lick something? Like a stamp/envelope? Kiss something? Chew something? Is there something on the wall by her door that is relevant? a picture? a light switch? a hook? a shelf? a mirror? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2007 |
~damia~ (~damia~) Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 4:51 pm: sorry did she get poisoned outside her room and inside it? Outside it. did she carry a poisoned item for a while? No. did she first get poisoned while outside the building? No. whilst coming through the door to the building? No. whilst going to her room? No, this is closest... just looking back at previous questions, haven't just asked does she put something in her mouth? Yes indeed. something that was in the building? Yes. Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo) Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 11:00 pm: Did he ever get inside her room on this occasion? No. Has he been here previously to set up part of his plan? No. Does she lick something? Like a stamp/envelope? Kiss something? Chew something? This is closest. Is there something on the wall by her door that is relevant? Not quite... a picture? a light switch? a hook? a shelf? a mirror? none of these. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 739 Registered: 4-2007 |
did she have mailboxes in the building? if so, did she happen to get poisoned while picking up her mail? did she get poisoned going up a set of stairs inside the building?. | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 30 Registered: 10-2007 |
did she have mailboxes in the building? if so, did she happen to get poisoned while picking up her mail? did she get poisoned going up a set of stairs inside the building?. No to all. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1026 Registered: 9-2003 |
is what she puts in her mouth something that would normally be considered edible? is it food? is it made of metal? wood? stone? plastic? rubber? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1299 Registered: 6-2001 |
The thing that she puts in her mouth - did her ex put poison on it directly? was there poison on it when he left the building? Did she do something which somehow transferred the poison to it? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 33 Registered: 10-2007 |
~damia~ (~damia~) Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 4:57 pm: is what she puts in her mouth something that would normally be considered edible? No. is it food? is it made of metal? wood? stone? plastic? Probably this. rubber? Bentarm (Bentarm) Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 6:28 pm: The thing that she puts in her mouth - did her ex put poison on it directly? Yes. was there poison on it when he left the building? So yes. Did she do something which somehow transferred the poison to it? No. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 751 Registered: 4-2007 |
The thing that she put in her mouth, I am assuming that she didn't have it with her since he was able to put poison on it without her knowing, correct? then, is it something that she had hidden? I know she didn't have the key in her mouth; did she possibly put a key chain in her mouth? was her door locked when she arrived home? unlocked? did she normally open the door with her keys? was she locked out? and maybe used something else to get in? was the plastic item thin? was it a card of some sort? credit card? some sort of gift/advantage/points card? thickness: less than 1/2 inch? 1/2-1 inch? over 1 inch thick? length: less than 1/2 inch? 1/2-1 inch? 1-2 inches? 2-3 inches? 3-4 inches? over 4 inches long? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 300 Registered: 9-2007 |
Plastic cover of a magazine? She bites/tears the plastic off with her mouth? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 37 Registered: 10-2007 |
Booklover (Booklover) Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 12:44 am: The thing that she put in her mouth, I am assuming that she didn't have it with her since he was able to put poison on it without her knowing, correct? Correct. then, is it something that she had hidden? No. I know she didn't have the key in her mouth; did she possibly put a key chain in her mouth? No. was her door locked when she arrived home? unlocked? Locked. did she normally open the door with her keys? Yes, irrel. was she locked out? and maybe used something else to get in? No. was the plastic item thin? Not especially.was it a card of some sort? credit card? some sort of gift/advantage/points card? No. thickness: less than 1/2 inch? This, about 1/2 inch. 1/2-1 inch? over 1 inch thick? length: less than 1/2 inch? 1/2-1 inch? 1-2 inches? 2-3 inches? 3-4 inches? over 4 inches long? Probably this. Noobdogg (Noobdogg) Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 12:00 pm: Plastic cover of a magazine? She bites/tears the plastic off with her mouth? Nope. | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1301 Registered: 6-2001 |
Would it have been possible for him to accidentally poison someone else using this method? Does the thing that she put in her mouth belong to her? Did it aid her in opening her door in some way? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2007 |
Would it have been possible for him to accidentally poison someone else using this method? Possible, not probable. Does the thing that she put in her mouth belong to her? Yes. Did it aid her in opening her door in some way? No. I'm sensing a slight FA, but I'll just let it go for now. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 304 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is she using her teeth to break it? tear it? crush it? make it softer? Really long shot here, but are they 'braces' or 'plates' or 'retainers' whtevr you might call em... orthodontic paraphernelia of some kind? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 51 Registered: 10-2007 |
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 5:39 am: Is she using her teeth to break it? tear it? crush it? make it softer? No to all. Really long shot here, but are they 'braces' or 'plates' or 'retainers' whtevr you might call em... orthodontic paraphernelia of some kind? Nope. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 313 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is the item placed right outside her door? On the floor / doormat? Did the poison kill her instantly? Is it an everyday sort of object? Is she putting it in her mouth because one or both of her hands are busy? Is she biting on it for a reason? Or is it just a casual habit? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 314 Registered: 9-2007 |
Hmmm, random thought.... Is she able bodied? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 55 Registered: 10-2007 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 5:49 am: Is the item placed right outside her door? Yes...possible FA? On the floor / doormat? No. Did the poison kill her instantly? No, but perhaps within minutes. Is it an everyday sort of object? Yes. Is she putting it in her mouth because one or both of her hands are busy? No. Is she biting on it for a reason? Noish. Or is it just a casual habit? This. Noobdogg (Noobdogg) Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 5:50 am: Hmmm, random thought.... Is she able bodied? Yes. | ||
| Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo)
New member Username: Strongplacebo Post Number: 186 Registered: 10-2005 |
Is the object a pen that she chews? Does she have a roommate? Is she alone when she gets to her room? Is someone in the room when she gets there? While her ex is administering the poison to the object? Does it take him long to administer the poison? Under a minute? Is it relevant what the poison is? | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2007 |
Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo) Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 7:20 pm: Is the object a pen that she chews? YES! ish. Does she have a roommate? Irrel. Is she alone when she gets to her room? Is someone in the room when she gets there? Irrel. While her ex is administering the poison to the object? Irrel. Does it take him long to administer the poison? No. Under a minute? Is it relevant what the poison is? Not really. What's left to find out is what and where exactly the pen was, and what she was using it for. | ||
| Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo)
New member Username: Strongplacebo Post Number: 189 Registered: 10-2005 |
Does she actually use the pen for writing? Or does it have another use? Does she have to sign in to the building for some reason? Does she simply chew on it while she's thinking? Or for a specific purpose? is it balanced on top of the doorframe? Hanging on a string from the handle? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 329 Registered: 9-2007 |
I'm aware that some dorms in US colleges have 'whiteboards' on the doors to the rooms that work as a sort of realtime scrapbooks. Maybe she did this thing where she drew a quick sketch with the whiteboard marker using her mouth, elephant painting style? Possibly, the marker is attached to this board, which is how it was accessible to psycho. | ||
| Ceres (Ceres)
New member Username: Ceres Post Number: 62 Registered: 10-2007 |
Strongplacebo- Does she simply chew on it while she's thinking? Noobdogg- I'm aware that some dorms in US colleges have 'whiteboards' on the doors to the rooms that work as a sort of realtime scrapbooks. These revelations bring us close enough for a... ******************SPOILER********* He left a liberal dose of poison on the pen attached to her whiteboad. Many college students leave these on the doors of their dorm rooms, and write where they are on it whenever they go out. The girl returned to her dorm, then on the way back out, wrote her next destination on the door. As per her habit, she chewed on the end of the pen while thinking about what to write. Good job everyone, and to Noobdogg for bringing it home! |
