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Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 441 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 11:11 am: |      |
Why did a woman take a knife to bed with her? |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 1188 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 11:43 am: |      |
was it for protection? food related? was the knife one used for defense? attack? kitchenware? butter knife? some sort of cleaver type? was she expecting anyone else to be in the bed? was there anyone? any other people involved at all? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 442 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 3:57 pm: |      |
Damia, was it for protection? food related? NO was the knife one used for defense? attack? NO - NOT REALLY kitchenware? butter knife? some sort of cleaver type? YES, NO, NO was she expecting anyone else to be in the bed? YES was there anyone? YES any other people involved at all? YES |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1937 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:04 pm: |      |
Did the woman plan to sleep in the bed? Were her actions done at night? Did she take any other relevant objects to bed with her besides the knife? Was the woman a sleep-walker? Did she have some dreams that led to the action of taking the knife to bed with her? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 443 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:10 pm: |      |
Ixoye, Did the woman plan to sleep in the bed? YES Were her actions done at night? YES Did she take any other relevant objects to bed with her besides the knife? NO Was the woman a sleep-walker? NO - DIFFERENT PUZZLE! Did she have some dreams that led to the action of taking the knife to bed with her? NO |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1939 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:13 pm: |      |
Ok - had the woman taken this same knife to bed with her on any previous occasion? another knife? Was her intent to get into bed and go right to sleep? do something else first? something that would help her fall asleep? Or was her intent to not go to sleep? to try to stay awake? |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229
Post Number: 179 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:24 pm: |      |
Was she gaurding the knife so that sobody else could use it while she slept? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 444 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:33 pm: |      |
Ixoye, Ok - had the woman taken this same knife to bed with her on any previous occasion? another knife? NO, NO Was her intent to get into bed and go right to sleep? NO OR IRRELEVANT do something else first? PROBABLY something that would help her fall asleep? NO Or was her intent to not go to sleep? to try to stay awake? NO OR IRRELEVANT OR WRONG LINE |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 445 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:34 pm: |      |
LPORTER, Was she gaurding the knife so that somebody else could use it while she slept? NO |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229
Post Number: 180 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:36 pm: |      |
apologies, "sobody" in previous post should be "nobody"... |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1940 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:41 pm: |      |
Would she have taken the knife to bed if she had been the only one using the bed? Was she sharing the bed with her spouse? Did she get into bed before anyone else? After another person? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 446 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 5:23 pm: |      |
Lporter, Was she gaurding the knife so that nobody else could use it while she slept? NO |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 447 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 5:25 pm: |      |
iXOYE, Would she have taken the knife to bed if she had been the only one using the bed? NO Was she sharing the bed with her spouse? YES Did she get into bed before anyone else? YES After another person? NO |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229
Post Number: 181 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 5:40 pm: |      |
Was she in her home? a hotel? bed and breakfast? hospital? in a tent? relevant? Did her spouse know she had the knife? Would she have wanted him not to know she had the knife? Did she plan to alter the bed and/or bedding with the knife? |
Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo
Post Number: 2422 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 6:11 pm: |      |
Shades of Angelina Jolie... Is it intended for role-playing of some kind? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 448 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 6:44 pm: |      |
Lporter, Was she in her home? a hotel? bed and breakfast? hospital? in a tent? relevant? YES, NO TO THE OTHERS Did her spouse know she had the knife? NO Would she have wanted him not to know she had the knife? CORRECT Did she plan to alter the bed and/or bedding with the knife? NO |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 449 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 6:44 pm: |      |
BODO, Is it intended for role-playing of some kind? NO |
Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo
Post Number: 2423 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 6:48 pm: |      |
Does her spouse snore? Talk in his sleep? Do some other relevant thing in bed? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 450 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 7:23 pm: |      |
Bodo, Does her spouse snore? Talk in his sleep? NO Do some other relevant thing in bed? YES |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1942 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 7:25 pm: |      |
Does he wet the bed? Roll over in his sleep? Kick the covers off? Put his feet onto her, or onto her side of the bed? Crowd her? Push her off the bed? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 451 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 8:41 pm: |      |
Ix, Does he wet the bed? Roll over in his sleep? Kick the covers off? Put his feet onto her, or onto her side of the bed? Crowd her? Push her off the bed? NO OR IRRELEVANT |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1944 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 9:05 pm: |      |
Does she take the knife with her in order to perform a task? Simply for her peace of mind? Does her husband know that she has the knife in bed? Can we assume that, if he doesn't know when he gets into bed, he will find out before he gets out of bed? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 452 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 10:27 pm: |      |
Ix, Does she take the knife with her in order to perform a task? YES Simply for her peace of mind? MORE THAN THAT Does her husband know that she has the knife in bed? NO Can we assume that, if he doesn't know when he gets into bed, he will find out before he gets out of bed? NO |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 1042 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 11:29 pm: |      |
Does she want to stop him doing this relevant thing? Is the knife connected to the relevant thing? Are any others involved in the puzzle? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3469 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 11:31 pm: |      |
Does she use it as a substitute screwdriver? Loosens the screws on the legs on his side of the bed? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 453 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 8:28 am: |      |
Tsoram, Does she want to stop him doing this relevant thing? NO Is the knife connected to the relevant thing? YES Are any others involved in the puzzle? NO - OR ONLY INDIRECTLY |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 454 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 8:29 am: |      |
LYNNE, Does she use it as a substitute screwdriver? Loosens the screws on the legs on his side of the bed? NO |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3470 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 9:17 am: |      |
Is it important that her husband doesn't know about the knife? Is he aware of what he's doing? If he knew about the knife would he be scared? puzzled? wouldn't care? get his own knife? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 455 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 10:23 am: |      |
Lynne, Is it important that her husband doesn't know about the knife? YES Is he aware of what he's doing? YES If he knew about the knife would he be scared? NO puzzled? POSSIBLY wouldn't care? YES HE WOULD get his own knife? NO |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229
Post Number: 185 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 1:11 pm: |      |
Could her intended actions get her arrested? |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229
Post Number: 186 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 1:12 pm: |      |
If she used the knife as planned, would there be blood involved? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 456 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 3:38 pm: |      |
Lporter, Could her intended actions get her arrested? VERY UNLIKELY If she used the knife as planned, would there be blood involved? YES |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1948 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 3:39 pm: |      |
Her blood? Her husband's blood? Someone else's? Are any animals involved in the scenario? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 457 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 4:17 pm: |      |
Ixoye, Her blood? YES Her husband's blood? Someone else's? Are any animals involved in the scenario? NO, NO, NO |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1950 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 4:28 pm: |      |
If she used the knife as planned, would it come into contact with her body? If so: her head? her torso? her arm? her hand? her leg? her foot? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 458 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 4:41 pm: |      |
Ix, If she used the knife as planned, would it come into contact with her body? If so: her head? her torso? her arm? her hand? her leg? her foot? HER HAND |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3471 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 5:04 pm: |      |
So would a summary be something like - the woman takes a knife to bed to cut her own hand when her husband, who is unaware of her having the knife, does something in bed. She doesn't plan to scare him and it's not to stop him doing whatever he does. ? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3472 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 5:05 pm: |      |
Would this be considered 'normal' behaviour? Or would a pyschiatrist have a field day analysing her? Does she do this every night? Does she clean up the blood afterwards? Does it hurt her, or is the hand numb for some reason? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 951 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 9:05 pm: |      |
Is her religion relevant? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 459 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 8:15 am: |      |
Lynne, So would a summary be something like - the woman takes a knife to bed to cut her own hand when her husband, who is unaware of her having the knife, does something in bed. She doesn't plan to scare him and it's not to stop him doing whatever he does? CORRECT Would this be considered 'normal' behaviour? IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED RATIONAL BUT NOT NORMAL Or would a pyschiatrist have a field day analysing her? NO Does she do this every night? NO Does she clean up the blood afterwards? YES AND NO Does it hurt her, or is the hand numb for some reason? YES, NO |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 460 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 8:16 am: |      |
ENJAY Is her religion relevant? YES |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3473 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 8:25 am: |      |
Is this common throughout the followers of her religion? Is it a mainstream religion? Does she let the blood fall on him? |
Lshooter3k (Lshooter3k)
New member Username: Lshooter3k
Post Number: 80 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 8:26 am: |      |
Does she clean up the blood off her hand, but not off the bed? |
Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine
Post Number: 670 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 9:14 am: |      |
Are they newly married? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3474 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 9:18 am: |      |
Does she hide the cut on her hand afterwards? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 461 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 9:27 am: |      |
Lynne, Is this common throughout the followers of her religion? NO Is it a mainstream religion? YES Does she let the blood fall on him? NO Does she hide the cut on her hand afterwards? YES |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 462 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 9:28 am: |      |
LSHOOTER Does she clean up the blood off her hand, but not off the bed? CORRECT |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 463 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 9:28 am: |      |
SUNSHINE Are they newly married? YES |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229
Post Number: 192 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 1:54 pm: |      |
Is she a virgin? Does her husband think she is a virgin? Is she trying to conceal the fact that she is not a virgin? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 952 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 4:15 pm: |      |
Does she belong to a religion where women are expected to be virgins on marriage and is trying to hide the fact that she is not? |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1955 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 4:32 pm: |      |
Or does she want her husband to think she is "unclean" for a time, according to rules of her religion? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 464 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 6:40 pm: |      |
* * * SPOILER * * * Lporter and Enjay Well done. She is a Muslim who marries. Her husband will expect that she is a virgin but she is not. After the act she secretly cuts her hand with the knife and then drips some blood on the sheet. This is a scene from the excellent book, a Thousand Splendid Suns by Kaled Hosseini. Paul Sloane |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3475 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 7:04 pm: |      |
I think credit should also go to Sunshine, her incisive question immediately told me that she guessed at the answer! :-) |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 465 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 11:31 am: |      |
Lynne, I think credit should also go to Sunshine, her incisive question immediately told me that she guessed at the answer! I agree - well done to Sunshine and to all questioners on this one. |