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| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2732 Registered: 8-2001 |
There's a certain demographic category of people in the US who were underprivileged but who, on the average, ended up exceeding most Americans in education & also having a lower than average crime rate. This is not a racial or ethnic category. What is it?? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1395 Registered: 6-2001 |
is it a religious category? Are people born into this category? do they choose to enter it? Is there any geographical connection between people in the category? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 436 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is the category defined by... * Age? * Sex / Gender? * Race/ Ethnicity? * Location of residence? * Socioeconomic status (SES)? * Religion? * Marital status? * Ownership (home, car, pet, etc.)? * Language? * Mobility? * Life cycles (fertility, mortality, migration)? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 790 Registered: 6-2007 |
prisoners? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 345 Registered: 9-2007 |
Immigrants / Refugees? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1018 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does it have to do with NOT owning certain pieces of technology? I.e. I used to consider somebody with without a TV underprivileged. But I definately get more work done without it! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2737 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1395 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 1:36 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is it a religious category? no Are people born into this category? no do they choose to enter it? no Is there any geographical connection between people in the category? noish Alex319 (Alex319) New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 436 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 2:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the category defined by... * Age? no * Sex / Gender? no * Race/ Ethnicity? no * Location of residence? yesish * Socioeconomic status (SES)? noish * Religion? no * Marital status? no * Ownership (home, car, pet, etc.)?noish * Language? no * Mobility? yope Life cycles (fertility, mortality, migration)? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2738 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 345 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 10:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Immigrants / Refugees?No. Immigrants generally do better than average--in the US & every other country I have information about. But this is hardly surprising--people with the energy & initiative to uproot themselves & move to another country are often above average in other ways, too. Am I prejudiced because my father was an immigrant? Well. . . my mother wasn't. Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1018 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 3:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does it have to do with NOT owning certain pieces of technology? noI.e. I used to consider somebody with without a TV underprivileged. But I definately get more work done without it! Until I was 13, I grew up without a TV. My family was middle-class; so this was my parents' choice rather than an economic necessity. I think it was one of their few mistakes. It deprived me of a source of pleasure & gave me nothing to contribute during many schoolyard conversations--all for no compensating benefit. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1021 Registered: 6-2005 |
Category definition... Location in the sense of... City vs. Rural? Type of residence? Penthouse vs. Ground floor? Big Family vs. single child? Having to commute to school? Distance from school? Distance from library? Y'know... my grandfather once told me that he liked to live in college towns because there was a certain quality of life and quality of people he was used to... is there something to this? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2741 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1021 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 7:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Category definition... Location in the sense of... City vs. Rural? no Type of residence? yes Penthouse vs. Ground floor? Well, certainly not a penthouse Big Family vs. single child? yesish Having to commute to school? no Distance from school? no Distance from library? . BTW, one of the thungs my parents did right was make sure our family lived just a few blocks from the main branch of the Brooklyn Public Library, which was one of the best public libraries in the world Y'know... my grandfather once told me that he liked to live in college towns because there was a certain quality of life and quality of people he was used to... is there something to this? Well... Good Things: inexpensive concerts, lectures, art exhibits, etc. good, cheap reataurants liberal atmosphere good bookstores Bad Things: noisy (college students are NOT quiet neighbors) housing is often expensive if professors aren't the most status-conscious people in the world, I'd hate to meet whoever is | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1025 Registered: 6-2005 |
And by type of residence... are we refering to physical housing type? I.e. 1 story 2 br home? Farmhouse? The projects? Apartment? Townhouse? House with a basement? Government furnished housing? Military housing? Religious housing (by that I mean similar to a Catholic boarding school)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2742 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1025 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 9:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) And by type of residence... are we refering to physical housing type?no I.e. 1 story 2 br home?NO{ Farmhouse?no The projects?no Apartment? no Townhouse? noHouse with a basement? possibly Government furnished housing? possibly Military housing? no Religious housing (by that I mean similar to a Catholic boarding school)? possibly religious | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1608 Registered: 8-2006 |
Status concious, more than professors. I would say people like Al Gore. He won the Nobel Peace Prize for bogus about global warming! Are all people in the same circumstances lower crime and better edu. people? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 437 Registered: 5-2007 |
By "exceeding most Americans in education?" do you mean more likely to graduate from high school? from college? or something else? By "lower crime rate" do you mean they are less likely to commit crimes? Or become victims of crimes? Any particular type of crime relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2745 Registered: 8-2001 |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig) New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1608 Registered: 8-2006 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 3:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Status concious, more than professors. I would say people like Al Gore. He won the Nobel Peace Prize for bogus about global warming!Are you an expert in climatology? I'm not; so I don't know whether his warnings are bogus.Even if they are, that wouldn't entail that he's status-conscious, rather than being, maybe, inept. Are all people in the same circumstances lower crime and better edu. people? Alex319 (Alex319) New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 437 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 6:26 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) By "exceeding most Americans in education?" do you mean more likely to graduate from high school? yes from college? yes or something else? no By "lower crime rate" do you mean they are less likely to commit crimes? yes Or become victims of crimes? noAny particular type of crime relevant? no | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 752 Registered: 4-2007 |
You missed a question of Crazypalpig's: Are all people in the same circumstances lower crime and better edu. people? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2748 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 752 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 8:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) You missed a question of Crazypalpig's: Are all people in the same circumstances lower crime and better edu. people? no. As the puzzle statement says, this is a difference on the average. | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 809 Registered: 6-2007 |
Does one need to be af a certain age or age range to be categorized this way? is it possible to be born into the category? can an infant enter the category? can an adult enter the category? could this category be found in other countries other than the US? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2751 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 809 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 9:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does one need to be af a certain age or age range to be categorized this way? no is it possible to be born into the category? yes can an infant enter the category? yes can an adult enter the category?noish could this category be found in other countries other than the US?yes | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 811 Registered: 6-2007 |
Do the youth of this category go to public school? which would you think is more likely.. for the relevant demographic to.. celebrate being in the category? be unhappy about being in the category? be unaware of being in the category? While you said it is possible for people to be born into this category, you also answered "no " to "are people born into this category". does this mean that it is possible, but not normal? If abnormal is there another way one normally comes into this category? Can the following people be in this category? a homeless person? a single person? a divorcee? a prisoner? someone in a coma? a poet? someone without parents? without children? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1410 Registered: 6-2001 |
"is it possible to be born into this category? yes" "Are people born into this category? no" So are do some people enter this category after birth? If so, through some choice made by their parents? Due to some misfortune that befalls their parents? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2756 Registered: 8-2001 |
entarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1410 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 11:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) "is it possible to be born into this category? yes" "Are people born into this category? no" So are do some people enter this category after birth? yes If so, through some choice made by their parents?yope Due to some misfortune that befalls their parents?yope | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1414 Registered: 6-2001 |
Are the people in this category children who are defined by some characteristics of their parents? Are their parents richer than average? poorer than average? average? (on average) Do most people in this category live in cities? Big cities? Do they own their own homes? rent them? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 814 Registered: 6-2007 |
in order to be in this category do you have to be "at one time underprivileged" is there one specific thing missing from the lives of whom you call underprivileged? or are you using the word as a popular social label? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2758 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1414 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are the people in this category children who are defined by some characteristics of their parents? yesish Are their parents richer than average? poorer than average? average? (on average)none Do most people in this category live in cities?possibly Big cities? Do they own their own homes? rent them? all are irrel Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 814 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) in order to be in this category do you have to be "at one time underprivileged" yes is there one specific thing missing from the lives of whom you call underprivileged?yes or are you using the word as a popular social label? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 815 Registered: 6-2007 |
Is the one thing missing form the underprivileged money? property? along those lines? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1027 Registered: 6-2005 |
Do these people live in the "poorer" neighborhoods or houses among all the rich people? I.e. They benefit from the good schools generated by all the taxes collected from the levies, but are constantly surrounded by examples of what "could be" if only they applied themselves? Is this demographic truly underprivileged? Or is it a matter of perspective? Is it a lack of equipment? A lack of space? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2761 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 815 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the one thing missing form the underprivileged money? no property? noish along those lines? no Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1027 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 4:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do these people live in the "poorer" neighborhoods or houses among all the rich people? could be either{ I.e. They benefit from the good schools generated by all the taxes collected from the levies, but are constantly surrounded by examples of what "could be" if only they applied themselves? not necessarily Is this demographic truly underprivileged? no Or is it a matter of perspective? no Is it a lack of equipment? no A lack of space? noish | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 818 Registered: 6-2007 |
can whatever it is that the underprivileged are lacking, be at some point gained? If I had it could I lose it? Can the diet of this group be used to identify the group? If you went to a home where a single nuclear family from the relevant group lived, could you tell they lived there from the.. outside? inside? from looking in their garbage can? at a book with their family tree? refrigerator? dresser drawers? financial ledger? baby book? how about a cemetery with their family plot? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1425 Registered: 6-2001 |
Is there something which is not found in the homes of the "underprivileged" which defines them? some other property of their homes? Could someone who lived on the streets be a member of the relevant category? Would they automatically be? Do they live in houses? apartment blocks? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 438 Registered: 5-2007 |
I think you missed Sixtyeight's post on October 14, 2007 - 11:38 pm. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2769 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 818 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 9:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) can whatever it is that the underprivileged are lacking, be at some point gained? yes If I had it could I lose it? yes Can the diet of this group be used to identify the group? no If you went to a home where a single nuclear family from the relevant group lived, could you tell they lived there from the.. outside? inside? from looking in their garbage can? at a book with their family tree? refrigerator? dresser drawers? financial ledger? baby book? how about a cemetery with their family plot?all are not applicable Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1425 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 11:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is there something which is not found in the homes of the "underprivileged" which defines them?yope some other property of their homes? yope Could someone who lived on the streets be a member of the relevant category? yes Would they automatically be? no Do they live in houses?yope apartment blocks? yope Alex319 (Alex319) New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 438 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 11:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I think you missed Sixtyeight's post on October 14, 2007 - 11:38 p Done, with my heartfelt apologies | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1031 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does it have to do with the sort of people this group lives with? I.e. which family members? Mom only? Dad only? Entire extended family? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2771 Registered: 8-2001 |
BLLOOOOOOOPERRRRRRRALERRRRRRRTTTTTTT!!!!!!!If you went to a home where a single nuclear family from the relevant group lived, could you tell they lived there from the.. outside? inside? from looking in their garbage can? at a book with their family tree? refrigerator? dresser drawers? financial ledger? baby book? how about a cemetery with their family plot?all are not applicable the answer to all should be no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2772 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1031 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 6:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does it have to do with the sort of people this group lives with? yope I.e. which family members? Mom only? Dad only? Entire extended family? all these are yopishly relevant | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1431 Registered: 6-2001 |
Could you be in this group if you were: an orphan living in an orphanage? an only child living with a single parent? an only child living with both parents? a twin living with a single parent? a twin living with both parents? an only child living with adopted parents? The younger of two siblings? the older of two siblings? The younger of three siblings? the middle of three siblings? the older of three siblings? An only child living with some extended family? grandparents? grandparents and parents? one of two children living in either of the above situations? one of three? Are males and females equally represented in the group? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1622 Registered: 8-2006 |
You missed this question :-( Are all people in the same circumstances lower crime and better edu. people? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1455 Registered: 6-2001 |
psst... then she answered it, see October 14 at 8.54pm | ||
| Tweek (Tweek)
New member Username: Tweek Post Number: 46 Registered: 3-2004 |
Al Gore is a good, walking example of why science shouldn't be influenced strongly by politics. Does this have to do with a lack of a utility of some type? lack of something electronic? lack of some source of information? lack of access to a quality publicly operated institution? Is the type of home that is used the main discriminant? only discriminant? One bedroom only? One bathroom only? Apartment? Mobile home? Boathouse? State-owned housing? Homeless? Suburbia? Not-so-suburbia? Is home ownership the discriminant? Would these home dwellers need to mow their lawns regularly? Is this most common among... East Coast? West Coast? South? The Strip Of Land I Live In Which Might As Well Be Canada? Would it be more common outside the US? Does the same 'higher quality of life' apply there? Is it best to be described as not specific to any region? Could this be described more in terms of a lifestyle or in terms of income? Does membership imply a more relaxed lifestyle? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1629 Registered: 8-2006 |
Oh, thanks bentarm. I seem not to be seeing a single thing recently. Or maybe I'm ADD | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2776 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1431 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Could you be in this group if you were: an orphan living in an orphanage? yes--see below an only child living with a single parent? an only child living with both parents? no a twin living with a single parent? no a twin living with both parents? no an only child living with adopted parents? no The younger of two siblings? yes the older of two siblings? yes The younger of three siblings? yers the middle of three siblings? yes the older of three siblings? yes An only child living with some extended family? no grandparents? nograndparents and parents? no one of two children living in either of the above situations? noone of three? no Are males and females equally represented in the group? yes Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig) New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1622 Registered: 8-2006 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 12:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) You missed this question :-( Are all people in the same circumstances lower crime and better edu. people? Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1455 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 1:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) psst... then she answered it, see October 14 at 8.54pm Tweek (Tweek) New member Username: Tweek Post Number: 46 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 3:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Al Gore is a good, walking example of why science shouldn't be influenced strongly by politics. Does this have to do with a lack of a utility of some type? lack of something electronic? lack of some source of information? lack of access to a quality publicly operated institution? Is the type of home that is used the main discriminant? only discriminant? One bedroom only? One bathroom only? Apartment? Mobile home? Boathouse? State-owned housing? Homeless? Suburbia? Not-so-suburbia? Is home ownership the discriminant? Would these home dwellers need to mow their lawns regularly? Is this most common among... East Coast? West Coast? South? The Strip Of Land I Live In Which Might As Well Be Canada? Would it be more common outside the US? Does the same 'higher quality of life' apply there? Is it best to be described as not specific to any region? Could this be described more in terms of a lifestyle or in terms of income? Does membership imply a more relaxed lifestyle? Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig) New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1629 Registered: 8-2006 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 11:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Oh, thanks bentarm. I seem not to be seeing a single thing recently. Or maybe I'm ADD Is this a rea;l syndfrome or just what parents & teacher call kids who get bored in school? Or both?? ****** SPOIILER *********** People who grew up in orphanages certainly seem underprivileged, but according to something I read in an American newspaper a few years back, they end up exceeding most Americans in education & also having a lower than average crime rate.I don't know why. I also don't know how they are at lateral puzzles, but there's a new one awaiting you at the bottom of the page!! |
