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Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 948 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 12:46 am: |      |
He wanted them to be fired upon at close range, for it was a winning strategy. |
Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319
Post Number: 483 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 1:33 am: |      |
"He:" H? A? M? "them:" H? A? M? Was this an actual battle? Or a game? Was "he" the leader/commander of "them"? Was "he" on the same side as "them"? "Fired upon" - with a gun? bow and arrow? missile? vehicle mounted weapon? aircraft mounted weapon? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 949 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 1:57 am: |      |
"He:" H? A? M? yes "them:" H?no A? yesM? yes Was this an actual battle? yesOr a game? no Was "he" the leader/commander of "them"? yessish Was "he" on the same side as "them"? yes "Fired upon" - with a gun? nobow and arrow? thismissile? vehicle mounted weapon? aircraft mounted weapon?not the rest |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 1090 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 10:35 am: |      |
are they animals? something futuristic? did he want them killed? destroyed? would doing that have harmed a human? the enemy? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 950 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 10:54 am: |      |
are they animals? nosomething futuristic? no did he want them killed?no/FA nodestroyed?no would doing that have harmed a human?noish the enemy?no |
Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319
Post Number: 485 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 5:09 pm: |      |
Are "them" living beings? vehicles? inanimate objects? buildings? fortifications? castles? walls? Would the arrows have hurt or damaged "them" when they hit them? Was this taking place in... ...prehistoric times? ...ancient Greek times? ...ancient Roman times? ...medieval times? ...the Revolutionary War? ...the Civil War? ...World War I? II? ...after that? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 954 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 5:29 pm: |      |
Are "them" living beings?no vehicles? partlyinanimate objects?yes buildings? fortifications? castles? walls? no to rest Would the arrows have hurt or damaged "them" when they hit them? yes.. possible FA Was this taking place in... ...prehistoric times? ...ancient Greek times? ...ancient Roman times? ...medieval times? ...the Revolutionary War? ...the Civil War? ...World War I? II? ...after that? third century AD |
Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319
Post Number: 486 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:42 am: |      |
Are the "vehicles" naval vessels? Were they in dock when they got hit? Was the side "they" were on attacking a fortified position? defending a fortified position? was the battle out in the open? |
Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm
Post Number: 1577 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:49 am: |      |
would it have been worse for them to be fired upon from long range? not fired upon at all? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 956 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 2:50 am: |      |
Are the "vehicles" naval vessels? yesishWere they in dock when they got hit? no Was the side "they" were on attacking a fortified position? nodefending a fortified position?no was the battle out in the open?yes would it have been worse for them to be fired upon from long range?most likely not fired upon at all?yes |
Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith
Post Number: 533 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 5:49 am: |      |
Were they surrounded on all sides? |
Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith
Post Number: 534 Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 5:57 am: |      |
them: not human, nor animal. But are adult and male... Is there something metaphoric involved, like personification of an inanimate object? Or is it similar to a trojan horse: a 'something' filled with explosives designed to explode when attacked (at close range) that resembled something threatening to an enemy? Or a ghost? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 957 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:30 am: |      |
Were they surrounded on all sides?no them: not human, nor animal. But are adult and male... Is there something metaphoric involved, like personification of an inanimate object?yes Or is it similar to a trojan horse: a 'something' filled with explosives designed to explode when attacked (at close range) that resembled something threatening to an enemy? no but OTRT Or a ghost?no |
Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319
Post Number: 489 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:36 am: |      |
Was it disguised as something else? Was something hidden in an attempt to fool the enemy? Was it a non-threatening object/person disguised as a threatening object/person? Was is a threatening object/person disguised as a non-threatening object/person? Were they trying to use the object as bait? Is it a statue? other representation of a human? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 958 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:30 pm: |      |
Was it disguised as something else? I'm not sure what "it" is nor "something else".... maybe rephrase Was something hidden in an attempt to fool the enemy? noish Was it a non-threatening object/person disguised as a threatening object/person? yes Was is a threatening object/person disguised as a non-threatening object/person? no Were they trying to use the object as bait? yes Is it a statue? yessish "they" areother representation of a human?yes |
Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319
Post Number: 490 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 7:33 pm: |      |
Did he hope that the enemy would mistake the yesish "statues" of humans for actual humans? The humans the yesish "statues" were representations of: - a particular human? the commander? - forces belonging to "their" side? - non-combatants? He hoped the enemy would fire on "them" at close range because to do so, they would have to move in close, which would open them up to attack? correct? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 959 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 7:42 pm: |      |
Did he hope that the enemy would mistake the yesish "statues" of humans for actual humans? yes The humans the yesish "statues" were representations of: - a particular human? the commander? - forces belonging to "their" side? this - non-combatants? He hoped the enemy would fire on "them" at close range because to do so, they would have to move in close, which would open them up to attack? correct?no........Hint...see title |
Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319
Post Number: 491 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:25 am: |      |
Did he want the "statues" damaged or destroyed? so he was trying to get the enemy to do the work for them? Would his objective have been achieved if he had his own forces fire on them? Was he hoping to... ...get the enemy to reveal their position? ...get the enemy to move? to move into a more vulnerable position? would moving have opened them up to an attack someplace else? ...get the enemy to waste their ammunition? did he want to collect the arrows for his own troops' use? ...occupy the enemy's attention while he attacked somewhere else? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 961 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 2:37 am: |      |
Did he want the "statues" damaged or destroyed? no so he was trying to get the enemy to do the work for them? no Would his objective have been achieved if he had his own forces fire on them? no Was he hoping to... ...get the enemy to reveal their position?no ...get the enemy to move?no to move into a more vulnerable position? no would moving have opened them up to an attack someplace else? no ...get the enemy to waste their ammunition? did he want to collect the arrows for his own troops' use? YES well done...that's a spoiler!!! ...occupy the enemy's attention while he attacked somewhere else? SPOILER ******* this is from a true story taken from the later Han Dynasty in China. The brilliant commander was Zhuge Liang. one version goes like this: a Northern army and a Southern army are on opposite sides of a river bank. The Northern army has traveled far and they are running out of resources. In previous fighting the Northern army used up all of their arrows, and at the same time they know that a decisive battle can gain everything they were after. They then collected a number of boats which they tied together , and in the boats they made straw dummies and dressed them in uniform. Taking advantage of the evening mist on the river, the Northern army launched the decoys so that the southern army, thinking that they were under a sneak attack, unleashed all of their arrows on the straw dummies, which were then collected to resupply the Northern army. |