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Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 930 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 9:35 pm: |      |
Many people have shot one, over the years. But George shot them both. |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1022 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 9:47 pm: |      |
shoot with a bullet? shoot with a gun? shoot with a camera? shoot hoops? shoot booze? shoot intravenously? shoot as in take a chance? shoot as in launch something? did George shoot two different items? two identical items? 2 items? Did George ever shoot 1? any occupation relevant? recreation? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 931 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 10:36 pm: |      |
Sixtyeight: shoot with a bullet? yes shoot with a gun? yes shoot with a camera? no shoot hoops? shoot booze? shoot intravenously? shoot as in take a chance? shoot as in launch something? no to all did George shoot two different items? yes two identical items? no 2 items? yes Did George ever shoot 1? no any occupation relevant? no recreation? no |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1184 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:36 pm: |      |
Black powder vs. modern? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 932 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:44 pm: |      |
Dlcygnet: Black powder vs. modern? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1025 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 1:41 am: |      |
target relevant? living target? type of gun relevant? did he use more than 1 bullet to shoot both? more than 2 bullets? more than 1 gun? did he shoot himself? "both" = something that often comes in pairs? like parents? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 933 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 3:52 pm: |      |
Sixtyeight: target relevant? yes living target? no type of gun relevant? yes did he use more than 1 bullet to shoot both? yesish, FA lurking more than 2 bullets? see above more than 1 gun? no did he shoot himself? yes "both" = something that often comes in pairs? yes like parents? yes, but not in this case. |
Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo
Post Number: 2414 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:28 pm: |      |
Shotgun? Feet? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 934 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:46 pm: |      |
Bodo: Shotgun? yes Feet? no, explore |
Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo
Post Number: 2416 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 7:13 pm: |      |
Is it a pair of body parts? If so: eyes? ears? noses? chins? elbows? arms? legs? gluteus muscles? testicles? kidneys? hands? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 935 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:19 pm: |      |
Bodo: Is it a pair of body parts? yes If so: eyes? ears? noses? chins? elbows? arms? legs? this one gluteus muscles? testicles? kidneys? hands? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1029 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 11:29 pm: |      |
did he shoot both of his legs? did he aim the barrel at his legs? did the shot ricochet? did he shoot each leg individually? were they shot within the same event or over time? was he trying to shoot something else? was he trying to shoot himself? was he trying to shoot another person? object? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 936 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 3:55 pm: |      |
Sixtyeight: did he shoot both of his legs? yes did he aim the barrel at his legs? no did the shot ricochet? yes did he shoot each leg individually? no were they shot within the same event yes or over time? no was he trying to shoot something else? yes was he trying to shoot himself? no was he trying to shoot another person? no object? yes |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1034 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:51 pm: |      |
so he aimed at an object, pulled the trigger on his shotgun and discharged a shot which ricocheted and hit both his legs? did he fire a slug? a shell? something else? did the shot bounce off the object he was shooting at? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 937 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:57 pm: |      |
Sixtyeight: so he aimed at an object, pulled the trigger on his shotgun and discharged a shot which ricocheted and hit both his legs? yes did he fire a slug? a shell? something else? yes, typical shotgun ammunition did the shot bounce off the object he was shooting at? yes |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1035 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:04 am: |      |
relevant how many shots were discharged? did he fire at something natural? man-made? wood? rock? concrete? brick? a wall? a car? was he hunting? was he trying to damage something? was he mad? emotionally charged? is another person relevant? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 938 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 3:46 pm: |      |
Sixtyeight: relevant how many shots were discharged? just one did he fire at something natural? man-made? this one wood? rock? concrete? brick? a wall? a car? this one was he hunting? no was he trying to damage something? yope was he mad? yes emotionally charged? that too is another person relevant? no |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1188 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 5:36 pm: |      |
So... his double barrel riffle discharged by mistake into a car? On purpose into a car? And the shots riccocheted back and hit both his legs? His single barrel riffle discharged by mistake? Through one of his legs? Into a car? And back into the other leg? And for added irony... the car was his too? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 939 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 6:36 pm: |      |
Dlcygnet: So... his double barrel riffle shotgun discharged by mistake no into a car? yes On purpose into a car? yes And the shots riccocheted back and hit both his legs? yes His single barrel riffle discharged by mistake? no Through one of his legs? no Into a car? yes And back into the other leg? yes And for added irony... the car was his too? yes if you are interested....why would he shoot his car? |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1192 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 8:18 pm: |      |
Was there something in the car worth shooting at? Did the car break down? Did the hand break fail on the car and it rolled into a ditch/tree/etc.? Was the car sitting there parked perfectly normally and nothing was wrong with it? Did his "friends" disguise his car as an animal? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 940 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:03 pm: |      |
Dlcygnet: Was there something in the car worth shooting at? no Did the car break down? no Did the hand break fail on the car and it rolled into a ditch/tree/etc.? no Was the car sitting there parked perfectly normally yes and nothing was wrong with it? no Did his "friends" disguise his car as an animal? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1037 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 11:04 pm: |      |
was he mad about the car? mad at the car? was there a relevant malfunction of the car? did the car malfunction and then he went into a rage? was he trying to break into the car? do we need to know some more about the kind of car? type? make? other properties of this car? was it a street car? relevant what he was doing just before shooting the car? was he driving it? or trying to? |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1195 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 11:23 pm: |      |
Was this an alcohol related incident? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 941 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 12:11 am: |      |
Sixtyeight: was he mad about the car? yes mad at the car? yesish was there a relevant malfunction of the car? noish did the car malfunction and then he went into a rage? no was he trying to break into the car? no do we need to know some more about the kind of car? type? make? not really relevant other properties of this car? no was it a street car? it was an automobile relevant what he was doing just before shooting the car? yes was he driving it? or trying to? no to both Dlcygnet: Was this an alcohol related incident? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1038 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 1:43 am: |      |
was he locked out of the car? did he want to get in? relevant which part of the car was in his sights when he pulled the trigger? Did he use the sight? line up and aim at a specific point? or did he just blast away? outside of this event was his mental health an issue? before blasting his car was he inside? outside? in his home? on the phone? would he have likely gone over to his gun rack and selected that shotgun for the sole purpose of shooting up his car? was there a mistake? a wager? TV special "Jackass" relevant? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 942 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 4:58 pm: |      |
Sixtyeight: was he locked out of the car? no did he want to get in? no relevant which part of the car was in his sights when he pulled the trigger? yes Did he use the sight? no...is there really a sight on a shotgun? line up and aim at a specific point? yes or did he just blast away? no outside of this event was his mental health an issue? no before blasting his car was he inside? outside? this one in his home? no on the phone? no would he have likely gone over to his gun rack and selected that shotgun for the sole purpose of shooting up his car? no was there a mistake? well, any time you shoot yourself... a wager? no TV special "Jackass" relevant? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1039 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 5:31 pm: |      |
did he aim at the door? fender? hood? trunk? window? tire? motor? gas tank? was his decision to shoot the car based on a mistake? misunderstanding? false information? deception? did he want to see how big of a hole he could make? see if the shot would ricochet? where it would ricochet? did he want to damage something more specific than his car? was there a non-car object on the car? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 943 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 5:53 pm: |      |
Sixtyeight: did he aim at the door? fender? hood? trunk? window? tire? this one motor? gas tank? was his decision to shoot the car based on a mistake? misunderstanding? false information? deception? no to all did he want to see how big of a hole he could make? no see if the shot would ricochet? no where it would ricochet? no did he want to damage something more specific than his car? yes was there a non-car object on the car? no |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229
Post Number: 182 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 5:59 pm: |      |
Was he trying to change the tire? Was his intention to deflate the tire? Was he trying to keep somebody else from driving the car? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 1041 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 8:48 pm: |      |
front tire? driver side? was he trying to prevent auto theft? was the car rolling? was he trying to make it look like someone else attacked his car? was the tire originally flat? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 944 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 10:07 pm: |      |
Lporter: Was he trying to change the tire? yes Was his intention to deflate the tire? no Was he trying to keep somebody else from driving the car? no Sixtyeight: front tire? driver side? doesn't matter which tire was he trying to prevent auto theft? no was the car rolling? no was he trying to make it look like someone else attacked his car? no was the tire originally flat? yes the tire was flat before the puzzle began |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229
Post Number: 184 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 10:24 pm: |      |
Did he shoot at the rubber part of the tire? or the wheel? Was he unable to get the lugnuts off, so he shot them? Did he simply shoot the tire out of frustration? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 945 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 12:01 am: |      |
Lporter: Did he shoot at the rubber part of the tire? no or the wheel? yes Was he unable to get the lugnuts off, so he shot them? yes Did he simply shoot the tire out of frustration? that too Spoyler to follow |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 946 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 12:03 am: |      |
********* SPOILER ********* A 66-year-old man was hospitalized in South Kitsap, Wash., in November after accidentally shooting himself in both legs. Police said he had become frustrated with a stuck lug nut on his Lincoln Continental's wheel and fired his 12-gauge shotgun at it, resulting in buckshot wounds from his feet to mid-abdomen. [Kitsap Sun, 11-10-07] Thanks so much for the hard work. I believe this guy is in honorable mention for Darwin this year...only because he didn't die. How many people accidentally shoot themselves in both legs? Sheesh. |