| Author | Message | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 837 Registered: 8-2001 |
It was really cold and Graham just knew it had to be cold enough that he would win. But he was mistaken, and so were a lot of others. | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2007 |
Graham? H?A?M? "it"...air temperature? outside? in a venue? in a room? in a freezer/refrigerator? or does "it" refer to an object? Was it's temperature below freezing (0C/32F)? a lot of others...H?A?M? more than 10? more than 100? more than 1000? Did they know Graham was mistaken? Did he know they were mistaken? Was Graham mistaken about "its" being cold? about winning? Did the others think Graham would win? Did they know Graham? Know of Graham? Win...a game? a bet? a prize? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 841 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Graham? H?A?M? yes to all "it"...air temperature? yes outside? no in a venue? in a room? in a freezer/refrigerator? no to all or does "it" refer to an object? no Was it's temperature below freezing (0C/32F)? yes a lot of others...H?A?M? yes, yes yope more than 10? more than 100? more than 1000? this one Did they know Graham was mistaken? no Did he know they were mistaken? no Was Graham mistaken about "its" being cold? no about winning? yes Did the others think Graham would win? if they were aware of him, yes Did they know Graham? Know of Graham? no to both Win...a game? yes a bet? no a prize? yes | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 57 Registered: 11-2007 |
Did the game involve a certain sport? Did Graham lose the game? Did Graham play the game? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 844 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Did the game involve a certain sport? no Did Graham lose the game? yes Did Graham play the game? yes | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1012 Registered: 6-2007 |
it = it? is artificial refrigeration relevant? cryogenics? is the specific temperature relevant? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1114 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does this game require the use of... snow? ice? animals? people? equipment? Standard game mats (dice, pawns, a ball, a field, a board, etc.)? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1115 Registered: 6-2005 |
Bleh... gamer lingo slipping into my rl lingo... rl = real life mats = materials/components | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 845 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: it = it? yes is artificial refrigeration relevant? cryogenics? no to both is the specific temperature relevant? yes Dlcygnet: Does this game require the use of... snow? ice? animals? people? yes, people must play the game equipment? Standard game mats (dice, pawns, a ball, a field, a board, etc.)? none of these Bleh... gamer lingo slipping into my rl lingo... rl = real life mats = materials/components hmmm...there is a material component required | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1912 Registered: 1-2001 |
This one looks interesting Did Graham assume that the cold would enhance his performance in the game? Or slow down the performance of others? Was Graham competing against anyone? against many other people? against animals? against machines? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 846 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye: This one looks interesting ty Did Graham assume that the cold would enhance his performance in the game? no, FA lurking Or slow down the performance of others? no Was Graham competing against anyone? no, good question against many other people? against animals? against machines? see above | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 541 Registered: 5-2007 |
I think I may know this one (ROT13 to read): Vg jnf n ybggrel fpengpu-bss tnzr va juvpu cynlref jba vs gur grzcrengher gurl fpengpurq bss jnf ybjre guna bar cevagrq ba gur pneq. Ubjrire, crbcyr jrer pbashfrq qhr gb fbzr bs gur grzcrengherf orvat artngvir ahzoref. | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 847 Registered: 8-2001 |
Alex: I think I may know this one (ROT13 to read): Vg jnf n ybggrel fpengpu-bss tnzr va juvpu cynlref jba vs gur grzcrengher gurl fpengpurq bss jnf ybjre guna bar cevagrq ba gur pneq. Ubjrire, crbcyr jrer pbashfrq qhr gb fbzr bs gur grzcrengherf orvat artngvir ahzoref. That is correct. Seemed like a good idea for a puzzle | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1916 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was Graham actually playing in a game? Was he betting on a game? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 848 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye: Was Graham actually playing in a game? yes Was he betting on a game? no, but explore | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1917 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the environment cold at the site where Graham was playing the game? Is this type of game typically played while seated? standing? running? crawling? walking? carrying anything? throwing anything? simply using one's mind? moving small objects? Did the 'lot of others' think that Graham would perform well at the game? Did they actually see Graham perform? Were the others assuming something about the outcome of the game? about the methods Graham would use? about the length of time Graham would participate? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 850 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye: Was the environment cold at the site where Graham was playing the game? no, and irrelevant Is this type of game typically played while seated? standing? running? crawling? walking? carrying anything? throwing anything? could be any of these, but not required simply using one's mind? no moving small objects? this is the closest Did the 'lot of others' think that Graham would perform well at the game? FA Did they actually see Graham perform? no Were the others assuming something about the outcome of the game? no about the methods Graham would use? FA about the length of time Graham would participate? FA | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1918 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is Graham a famous person? Known by 'the others'? Was he gambling? Were other people gambling? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 851 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye: Is Graham a famous person? no Known by 'the others'? not at all Was he gambling? yes Were other people gambling? yes | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was Graham playing the lottery? Did he assume that others would not play because it was too cold for them to leave their houses to purchase tickets and this would increase his chances? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 856 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Was Graham playing the lottery? yes, a lottery game, but not the classic 'pick the numbers-type' game Did he assume that others would not play because it was too cold for them to leave their houses to purchase tickets and this would increase his chances? no, FA | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1123 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was he part of an office pool? One where people pick dates for something to happen? And bet that it'll either happen or not happen on that date/series of dates? I.e. Birth of a child, how long a newbie will last, when the snow will melt etc.? Does the date Graham picked seem really likely for the occurence to happen? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 857 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet: Was he part of an office pool? no One where people pick dates for something to happen? no And bet that it'll either happen or not happen on that date/series of dates? no I.e. Birth of a child, how long a newbie will last, when the snow will melt etc.? no, FA Does the date Graham picked seem really likely for the occurence to happen? FA | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1921 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the lottery game a "scratch and win" type? Is it a game with a specific name (like "Blackjack" or "Uno"), or just a general category of game? | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 65 Registered: 11-2007 |
If Graham had won the lottery, was he likely find out that he had won by watching TV? Reading the newspaper? a radio broadcast? a telephone call? a certified letter? Ed McMahon or the likes showing up at his door? A public announcement? Did Graham have to pay money to enter this lottery? Did Graham have to submit a form? Did somebody actually win the lottery? There may be a FA invovled here, but was the winner chosen at random or did the the winner actually have to make a choice that led to his/her winning? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 859 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye: Was the lottery game a "scratch and win" type? YES! Is it a game with a specific name yes, but you don't need to guess the name, just how the game worked (like "Blackjack" or "Uno"), or just a general category of game? see above Lporter: If Graham had won the lottery, was he likely find out that he had won by watching TV? no Reading the newspaper? a radio broadcast? a telephone call? a certified letter? Ed McMahon or the likes showing up at his door? A public announcement? no to all Did Graham have to pay money to enter this lottery? yes Did Graham have to submit a form? no Did somebody actually win the lottery? most likely several people There may be a FA invovled here, but was the winner chosen at random no or did the the winner actually have to make a choice that led to his/her winning? this one Good questions! | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 919 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did Graham hope that because it was cold that would somehow allow him to pick a winning scratch card? That less people would buy a card, so he would be more likely to win more money? | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 67 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was Graham hoping to win by cheating? Was Graham hoping to win by guessing something correctly? Was there a trivia question involved? Did Graham have to scratch off the correct answer? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1922 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was Graham mistaken that he would win? Did Graham actually win at all? Did anyone else win at all? Did Graham assume that few people would attempt to win? Did others assume the same thing, that they were among only a few people to attempt to win? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 861 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay: Did Graham hope that because it was cold that would somehow allow him to pick a winning scratch card? no, FA lurking That less people would buy a card, so he would be more likely to win more money? no Lporter: Was Graham hoping to win by cheating? no Was Graham hoping to win by guessing something correctly? no Was there a trivia question involved? no Did Graham have to scratch off the correct answer? noish Ixoye: Was Graham mistaken that he would win? yes Did Graham actually win at all? no Did anyone else win at all? yes Did Graham assume that few people would attempt to win? no Did others assume the same thing, that they were among only a few people to attempt to win? no, FA | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1127 Registered: 6-2005 |
The scratch and win game... did he buy a bunch of them? Were they the sort of scratch tickets where you guess which one of patches to scratch off in the first column, the second column, and the third? More? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 862 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet: The scratch and win game... did he buy a bunch of them? no Were they the sort of scratch tickets where you guess which one of patches to scratch off in the first column, the second column, and the third? More? no to all | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 69 Registered: 11-2007 |
Did the others think that they would win? Did the box (assuming it was a box) that Graham scratched off reveal a number? Was the number related to the temperature? Was the temperature a record-setting temperature? Back to the temperature...was it the air temperature at a specific geographic location? Where Grant lived? Where he was playing the game? Is this a true story? Did it happen in the US? Was the game run by a state lottery? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1018 Registered: 6-2007 |
was the temperature below 0°F? is more than one specific temperature relevant? relevant with which scale temperature is measured (F, C, K, R, etc.)? BTU relevant? relevant with which device temperature was measured? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 864 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Did the others think that they would win? yes Did the box (assuming it was a box) that Graham scratched off reveal a number? yes Was the number related to the temperature? yope Was the temperature a record-setting temperature? not relevant Back to the temperature...was it the air temperature at a specific geographic location? no Where Grant lived? no Where he was playing the game? no Is this a true story? based on, yes Did it happen in the US? no Was the game run by a state lottery? yesish Sixtyeight: was the temperature below 0°F? FA, what temperature? is more than one specific temperature relevant? yes relevant with which scale temperature is measured (F, C, K, R, etc.)? no, but C in this case BTU relevant? no relevant with which device temperature was measured? no | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1924 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the lottery game that Graham was playing simply a game of chance? Multiple covered areas that can be scratched, but the player can only choose one? Some other type? A type in which a correct answer to a question is chosen by scratching off a covered area (like multiple choice: "Who was the first US president? A - Washington, B - Jefferson, C - Martha Stewart") ? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 867 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye: Was the lottery game that Graham was playing simply a game of chance? yes Multiple covered areas no that can be scratched, but the player can only choose one? no Some other type? yes A type in which a correct answer to a question is chosen by scratching off a covered area (like multiple choice: "Who was the first US president? A - Washington, B - Jefferson, C - Martha Stewart") ? no | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 72 Registered: 11-2007 |
Would the person who purchased the winning ticket be a gauranteed winner? or would they have to choose correctly in order to win? Would the person with the winning ticket know immediately after scratching it that they had won? Does the game involve a comparison of temperatures? The number of temps...1,2,3,4,5?more? Are all relevant temperatures air temps? If yes, is one or more an actual air temp? is one or more a theoretical air temp? relevant only to the game? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 869 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Would the person who purchased the winning ticket be a gauranteed winner? yes or would they have to choose correctly in order to win? no Would the person with the winning ticket know immediately after scratching it that they had won? yope, explore Does the game involve a comparison of temperatures? yes The number of temps...1,2 this one ,3,4,5?more? Are all relevant temperatures air temps? yes If yes, is one or more an actual air temp? no is one or more a theoretical air temp? yes relevant only to the game? yes Good questions. | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2007 |
Did both temps appear on the ticket? The number in the scratch off box...was it a temperature? Did it need to be lower than another temp to be a winner? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 870 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Did both temps appear on the ticket? yes The number in the scratch off box...was it a temperature? yes Did it need to be lower than another temp to be a winner? yes indeed....someone found this story on the internet | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 78 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was there a misprint on the lottery ticket? Was a mistake made (other than the initial mistake of Graham and the others thinking they would win)? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 872 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Was there a misprint on the lottery ticket? no Was a mistake made (other than the initial mistake of Graham and the others thinking they would win)? no | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 81 Registered: 11-2007 |
Did Graham mistakenly think he had won and try to cash in his ticket? Were the rules unclear? Did the temperature need to be below freezing and he was confused between Celsius and Fahrenheit? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 877 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Did Graham mistakenly think he had won and try to cash in his ticket? yes Were the rules unclear? no Did the temperature need to be below freezing and he was confused between Celsius and Fahrenheit? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 975 Registered: 4-2007 |
ok, just jumping in... making sure I understand the lotto card (not sure I can quite visualize this one)-- so there were only two boxes on the card, correct? one box with the correct temperature and one with a random number? and Graham had to pick which box he wanted to scratch, and when he saw the number he thought that the number he had selected was the correct temperature? was wind chill involved? maybe he thought it was really cold outside because of the wind chill factor, but the "real temperature" was higher than what the temperature felt like? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 878 Registered: 8-2001 |
Booklover: ok, just jumping in... come right in, the water's fine making sure I understand the lotto card (not sure I can quite visualize this one)-- so there were only two boxes on the card, correct? yes one box with the correct temperature and one with a random number? no and Graham had to pick which box he wanted to scratch, and when he saw the number he thought that the number he had selected was the correct temperature? no was wind chill involved? no maybe he thought it was really cold outside because of the wind chill factor, but the "real temperature" was higher than what the temperature felt like? no | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 84 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was Graham confused by negative numbers? For instance, he thought that -2 was less than -16? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 881 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Was Graham confused by negative numbers? For instance, he thought that -2 was less than -16? yes Spoyler to follow | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 882 Registered: 8-2001 |
********** SPOILER *********** In November, Britain's new weather-themed Cool Cash lottery game was canceled after one day because too many players failed to understand the rules. Each card had a visible temperature and a temperature to be scratched off, and the purchaser would win if the scratched-off temperature was "lower" than the visible one. Officials said they had received "dozens" of complaints from players who could not understand why, for example, minus-5 is not a lower temperature than minus-6. [Manchester Evening News, 11-3-07] Nice work guys. Thought this one would last a little longer. Well done! | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1929 Registered: 1-2001 |
That was a good one, always nice to be entertained and keep up with current events at the same time! |
