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The crack saved him much trouble.
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him= H?A?M?
crack= crack cocaine? (I hope not...)
a fracture?
a cracking noise?
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a financial crack?
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him= H?A?M?Yes to all
crack= crack cocaine? (I hope not...)Of course not!! How do you do that slash thingy?
a fracture? Yope
a cracking noise?No
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Oops, and it isn't a financial crack!
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Any other relevant persons in this puzzles than 'him'?

Is the crack on a person? object?
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Is it a slit? A fissure of some sort? In a wall? A door? A window? A vessel? Did light pass through the crack? Did he see through the crack?
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Any other relevant persons in this puzzles than 'him'?Yes

Is the crack on a person? object?The latter

Is it a slit?No A fissure of some sort?No In a wall? A door? A window?Could be any of these A vessel?Meaning boat or glass? Did light pass through the crack?Yes but irr Did he see through the crack?Yes but irr and misleading
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Point of information unrelated to this question....

haven't read the FAQs...never have, never will.

What does H?A?M? mean? Also nope and yope.

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Point of information unrelated to this question....

haven't read the FAQs...never have, never will.We seriously advise you to

What does H?A?M? mean?Human, Adult, Male? Also nope and yope.Nope-No. Yope- No but with an element of truth in it

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did he cause the crack? find it? try to fix it? make it worse?
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did he cause the crack?This find it? try to fix it? make it worse?
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did he attack something? did he cause the crack with an object? a weapon? his body? fist?
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did he attack something?Yes did he cause the crack with an object?Yes a weapon?And yes his body? fist?
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so just to check the object is the weapon?

a knife? gun? axe? did he mean to damage the whatever it was? or did he aim at something else? someone else?
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so just to check the object is the weapon? Yes, actually the object is the bullet

a knife? gun?Yep axe? did he mean to damage the whatever it was?Yope or did he aim at something else? someone else?Yes
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Light travelling through this crack is irrelevent apparently. did this crack allow the passage of something else? like a smell? a sound?

Is diffraction relevent?

Did the crack weaken the wall/window to the point that a small amount of force could allow him to break through?

is the calibre of the bullet relevent?

is there a time delay between crack formation and 'usefulness' of crack? <1min, 1-5min, 5-30min, .5-1hr, 1-5hr, <1day, 1 week, month, greater?

did the crack inspire him to do something only tangentially related (in a 'House MD' moment?)

is the crack in an obvious place in the wall? on both sides? relevent?

Is it an outside wall, or an inside wall? load bearing? relevent?

Did the bullet travel some distance on the other side?

His target, was he related in any way to them?
H.A.M?
Was they an agressor?
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Light travelling through this crack is irrelevent apparently.Correct did this crack allow the passage of something else?Yes, irr like a smell? a sound?

Is diffraction relevent? I'm pretty sure not

Did the crack weaken the wall/window to the point that a small amount of force could allow him to break through?No

is the calibre of the bullet relevent? No

is there a time delay between crack formation and 'usefulness' of crack? <1min, 1-5min, 5-30min, .5-1hr, 1-5hr, <1day, 1 week,Around this month, greater?

did the crack inspire him to do something only tangentially related (in a 'House MD' moment?)No

is the crack in an obvious place in the wall?Yes on both sides?Visible from both sides you mean? Yes relevant?Yope

Is it an outside wall, or an inside wall?Both :-) load bearing? relevent? No idea

Did the bullet travel some distance on the other side?Yes

His target, was he related in any way to them? Define related
H.A.M? Yes
Was they an agressor?Clarify?
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related via family in any way, immediate or otherwise?

aggressor: his target acted in an aggressive or violent manner towards our hero.

When you say both, did the bullet travel through two, or more walls, penetrate at the corner of an outside and an inside wall, or are you referring to a wall that on oneside is the outside of a building, and the other side, the inside? (Otherwise known as an outside wall :^) )
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related via family in any way, immediate or otherwise? No

aggressor: his target acted in an aggressive or violent manner towards our hero. Ah ok. Yes.

When you say both, did the bullet travel through two, or more walls, penetrate at the corner of an outside and an inside wall, or are you referring to a wall that on oneside is the outside of a building, and the other side, the inside? (Otherwise known as an outside wall :^) )I meant that the wall was both inside and outside depending which side you're looking at
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Was the bullet shot from inside or from outside? Relevant?

Is our hero's profession relevant? Police officer? Security guard? Criminal? The other person's profession? Police officer? Security guard? Criminal?

Was the crack used as evidence? To prove something?
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Was the bullet shot from inside or from outside?Could be either Relevant? No

Is our hero's profession relevant?No Police officer? Security guard? Criminal? The other person's profession? Police officer? Security guard? Criminal? This

Was the crack used as evidence? To prove something?
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Oops...
Was the crack used as evidence?Yes-ish To prove something?Yes
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Was it used to prove he was right about something?
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Was it used to prove he was right about something?Yes... ish
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Did he have to prove something to the police? his wife? the criminal? his boss? a relative? a stranger?
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Did he have to prove something to the police?YeS his wife? the criminal? his boss? a relative? a stranger?
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Did he prove that he had not hit the person? That he had? Did the crack help him prove something that had not actually happened?
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Did he prove that he had not hit the person? That he had? Did the crack help him prove something that had not actually happened?No to all
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If he hadn't proved that, would he have gotten into jail? would the criminal have gotten into jail?
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If he hadn't proved that, would he have gotten into jail?Or some other punishment, exactly what is irrelevant would the criminal have gotten into jail?Hmm... The answer would be FA or, what criminal?
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Sorry, I should have payed more attention.
So he was the criminal. He aimed at a person? but shot through the wall? Did he kill somebody?
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Damn, did it again. The other person I meant.
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Sorry, I should have payed more attention.
So he was the criminal.No He aimed at a person?Yes... but shot through the wall?Yope... Did he kill somebody?Yes

You mean the guy he was shooting at? In that case...
Sorry, I should have payed more attention.
So he was the criminal.Yes He aimed at a person?Yes but shot through the wall?Yope, same reason Did he kill somebody?No
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Is this an event that is unlikely to happen in real life? is it a real story?
Our hero was inside the building, and the criminal outside? or the other way around?
Were they on the same side of the wall? inside? outside?
Both of them shot a fire at the other? Relevant who shot first? Our hero? the criminal?
They shot through the wall because they wanted to? or by accident?
Did they both shoot through the wall? only our hero? only the criminal? was there anybody else involved?
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Is this an event that is unlikely to happen in real life?It could happen is it a real story?From a book
Our hero was inside the building, and the criminal outside?Yes or the other way around?
Were they on the same side of the wall?No inside? outside?
Both of them shot a fire at the other?Yes Relevant who shot first?YES! Our hero? the criminal?Yes
They shot through the wall because they wanted to? or by accident?
Did they both shoot through the wall? only our hero? only the criminal? was there anybody else involved?
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Is this an event that is unlikely to happen in real life?It could happen is it a real story?From a book
Our hero was inside the building, and the criminal outside?Yes or the other way around?
Were they on the same side of the wall?No inside? outside?
Both of them shot a fire at the other?Yes Relevant who shot first?YES! Our hero? the criminal?Yes
They shot through the wall because they wanted to?yes or by accident?
Did they both shoot through the wall?Yes only our hero? only the criminal? was there anybody else involved?The police... but you've found that out
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Could the criminal see our hero? Did he know our hero was inside the building? Did he aim at our hero?
Did our hero know the criminal was outside? Did he aim straight at him?
Did our hero kill the criminal?
When the criminal pulled the trigger, the bullet made a hole in the wall? When our hero pulled the trigger, he made another hole in the wall? (this is very silly but I'll ask it anyway) or the bullet passed straight through the first hole?
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hmm I think it's inappropriate to call the other guy a hero, let's call him victim >: )
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Could the criminal see our hero?Yes Did he know our hero was inside the building?Yes Did he aim at our hero?Yes
Did our hero know the criminal was outside?Sometime in this puzzle frame Did he aim straight at him?Yes
Did our hero kill the criminal? Yes
When the criminal pulled the trigger, the bullet made a hole in the wall?Yes When our hero pulled the trigger, he made another hole in the wall?Yes (this is very silly but I'll ask it anyway) or the bullet passed straight through the first hole?No
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So the criminal was outside. He knew our hero was inside. The criminal aimed at our hero, because he could see him.
He could see him through a window? through a hole in the wall? The wall was made of glass? relevant why they could see each other? or how?
The bullet didn't touch our hero, but passed through the wall.
Our hero could see the criminal?
Did he shoot into the wall, the bullet went through the wall and hit the criminal?
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So the criminal was outside. He knew our hero was inside. The criminal aimed at our hero, because he could see him. Yes so far
He could see him through a window?Close enough, was thinking of glass door, but oh well through a hole in the wall? The wall was made of glass?Yes relevant why they could see each other? or how? Just glass
The bullet didn't touch our hero, but passed through the wall.Yep. You see, the criminal wasn't the best shot in the world
Our hero could see the criminal?Yes, after he had been shot at
Did he shoot into the wall, the bullet went through the wall and hit the criminal?Yes
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what more is there to find here?
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what more is there to find here?RECAP!!

Things needed to find: How would he avoid trouble with the crack? How would the crack help him prove something?
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As the man was outside, would Our Hero be convicted of Manslaughter if he couldn't prove that he was shooting in self defence? Could it be proven by the shape of the holes from which direction the bullets passed through it? (I think a hollow tip leaves a bigger hole on the far side, at least in bodies, according to my rather limited knowledge of forensic ballistics) And as a dead man cannot shoot, if after only two bullets were fired from different directions through the wall and one man killed the other, the dead man would have to have, logically, fired the first shot...
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Or even if you couldn't prove the direction the bullets travelled, you could deduce the actual amount of bullets fired, and from where, by counting those left in the clips, or locating the casings.
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As the man was outside, would Our Hero be convicted of Manslaughter if he couldn't prove that he was shooting in self defence?Yes! Could it be proven by the shape of the holes from which direction the bullets passed through it?No... (I think a hollow tip leaves a bigger hole on the far side, at least in bodies, according to my rather limited knowledge of forensic ballistics)I have no idea, so irrelevant And as a dead man cannot shoot, if after only two bullets were fired from different directions through the wall and one man killed the other, the dead man would have to have, logically, fired the first shot...But they didn't figure it out that way.

Or even if you couldn't prove the direction the bullets travelled, you could deduce the actual amount of bullets fired, and from where, by counting those left in the clips, or locating the casings.Yeah you could, or just find the number of bullet holes in the door...
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did the window/door shatter? if so wouldn't the glass fall on the side away from the shot, so if the gunman shot in first, the glass would be on the inside?
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did the window/door shatter?Crack, not shatter. Else, how could a crack be found? if so wouldn't the glass fall on the side away from the shot, so if the gunman shot in first, the glass would be on the inside?Remember, no shattering.
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So the crack proves Our Hero was firing in self defence, correct?

Now there are two holes in the door correct, one caused by the dead murderer, the other by our hero? And the crack in question was caused by the would be murderer firing through the glass panel on the door?
The other hole caused by our hero is not in the window section?
We could count the number of holes in the door, but as far as I can tell this can't prove who fired the first shot alone, either man could have fired first, or even fired twice.
The bullet casings aren't relevent?
The crack cannot show by it's shape which direction the bullet travelled?

Were the two guns fired distinct in design? Was the murderer using say a 9mm or smaller calibre and our hero using a Desert Eagle .50 or Magnum that, if fired through the window would not leave a crack, but shatter or completely destroy the window?
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So the crack proves Our Hero was firing in self defence, correct?Correct

Now there are two holes in the door correct, one caused by the dead murderer, the other by our hero?Yes And the crack in question was caused by the would be murderer firing through the glass panel on the door? hmmm Maybe not murderer, manslaughter more like it, but irrelevant
The other hole caused by our hero is not in the window section? Yes it is
We could count the number of holes in the door, but as far as I can tell this can't prove who fired the first shot alone, either man could have fired first, or even fired twice.No
The bullet casings aren't relevent? Yep, not relevant
The crack cannot show by it's shape which direction the bullet travelled? OK, the police found out that each person fired one shot, and could figure out which hole each one made...

Were the two guns fired distinct in design?No Was the murderer using say a 9mm or smaller calibre and our hero using a Desert Eagle .50 or Magnum that, if fired through the window would not leave a crack, but shatter or completely destroy the window?They were both using .38s
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Hint: They could tell who shot what bullet, but not who shot first. What property do cracks have in glass?
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Don't know much about glass but I had a crack in my windscreen once that started off about 1 inch long but grew to about a foot long.

Is it relevant how big the cracks had become. Had the criminal's crack gotten longer than the self defense guy?

Was there a considerable gap between the first and second shot or are we talking about seconds?
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Don't know much about glass but I had a crack in my windscreen once that started off about 1 inch long but grew to about a foot long. Interesting

Is it relevant how big the cracks had become.Yope Had the criminal's crack gotten longer than the self defense guy?Yes, one did

Was there a considerable gap between the first and second shot or are we talking about seconds?Seconds
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Did the first crack stop the second crack from propergating throught the window?
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Did the first crack stop the second crack from propergating throught the window?YES!
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I'll give it a shot...

Our Hero, residing in his house, was the target of some murderous individual who attempted to shoot him through an external window/glass door. The would-be murderer probably was at some angle to the glass surface as he aimed, and may even have been startled as he was about to shoot. In any case, his shot went wild and missed our hero. It did, however, penetrate the glass surface, leaving a crack. Our hero reacted in self defence, grabbed his gun (which just happened to be on hand, loaded and ready.) As Our Hero was a much better shot, he succesfully downed the aggressor with a single bullet, also through the window. This too left a crack. Now, as the agressor was outside the building when he was shot, our hero would have been convicted of manslaughter, unless he could prove that he fired in self defence.
Ballistics, I assume, could prove which bullet was fired along which path, and could determine which bullet caused which crack. However, the two cracks intersected at one point, the first crack preventing the second crack from propergating further through the window. The first crack saved our hero from a lot of trouble, as it proved that the agressor fired first, and that our hero was, in fact, firing in self-defence.
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I'll give it a shot...

Our Hero, residing in his house, was the target of some murderous individual who attempted to shoot him through an external window/glass door. The would-be murderer probably was at some angle to the glass surface as he aimed, and may even have been startled as he was about to shoot. In any case, his shot went wild and missed our hero. It did, however, penetrate the glass surface, leaving a crack. Our hero reacted in self defence, grabbed his gun (which just happened to be on hand, loaded and ready.) As Our Hero was a much better shot, he succesfully downed the aggressor with a single bullet, also through the window. This too left a crack. Now, as the agressor was outside the building when he was shot, our hero would have been convicted of manslaughter, unless he could prove that he fired in self defence.
Ballistics, I assume, could prove which bullet was fired along which path, and could determine which bullet caused which crack. However, the two cracks intersected at one point, the first crack preventing the second crack from propergating further through the window. The first crack saved our hero from a lot of trouble, as it proved that the agressor fired first, and that our hero was, in fact, firing in self-defence.Correct!
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Kudos to Zenith and all other puzzlers involved in this puzzle :-)

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