| Author | Message | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1088 Registered: 6-2005 |
I couldn't understand him. One day he was a proper English gentleman, the next day... Dutch! | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 1336 Registered: 10-2001 |
True story? He = human / adult? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1089 Registered: 6-2005 |
True story? Kinda. Inspired by an article. He = human / adult? Yes. | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 1339 Registered: 10-2001 |
Actual nationality of man relevant? Occupation relevant? Relationships of any kind relevant? Time / location relevant? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1096 Registered: 6-2005 |
Actual nationality of man relevant? No. Occupation relevant? No. Relationships of any kind relevant? Yes. Time / location relevant? Noish. | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 1347 Registered: 10-2001 |
More than 2 people involved? Dutch as in nationality / culture / speech / appearance / other? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1109 Registered: 6-2005 |
More than 2 people involved? Noish. Dutch as in nationality / culture / speech / appearance / other? Other. | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 964 Registered: 6-2001 |
is this to do with paying for a meal? ie the English gentleman offers to pay for the lady... but to have each pay their own is "going dutch"? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1118 Registered: 6-2005 |
is this to do with paying for a meal? ie the English gentleman offers to pay for the lady... but to have each pay their own is "going dutch"? Absolutely! | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1631 Registered: 6-2001 |
Did he have a good reason for "going dutch"? Was he on a date? with you? (for the purposes of this puzzle) Did he offer to pay for a meal? Then ask to split the bill for a subsequent meal? for the same meal he had previously offered to pay for? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1121 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did he have a good reason for "going dutch"? Yes and No. Was he on a date? with you? (for the purposes of this puzzle) Yes. Did he offer to pay for a meal? No. Then ask to split the bill for a subsequent meal? No. for the same meal he had previously offered to pay for? No. | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 1360 Registered: 10-2001 |
Did he think you earn more than him? Was it a particularly expensive meal? Did you order something expensive? Did he not have enough money on him? Did you upset him / was he irked with you? Did he wish to spend money on something else? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1146 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did he think you earn more than him? No. Was it a particularly expensive meal? No. Did you order something expensive? No. Did he not have enough money on him? No. Did you upset him / was he irked with you? No. Did he wish to spend money on something else? Doesn't everybody? Yope. | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 1362 Registered: 10-2001 |
Was his reason for going dutch to benefit himself / you / someone else, or none of these? | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 1363 Registered: 10-2001 |
Is a third party relevant? | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 1364 Registered: 10-2001 |
Did he want to have money left over to spend on you? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1162 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was his reason for going dutch to benefit himself Yes / you No. / someone else Doubtful, or none of these? Is a third party relevant? No. Just the guy who wrote the article I'm thinking of. Did he want to have money left over to spend on you? No. | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 679 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did you know you were going dutch when he asked you out? Just before the meal? After? Did you offer to pay half, not thinking he would accept? Did you make some remark about women's rights? Did he complain about the meal? Did you? Did anything significant happen between one date and the next? Did you see him again (or did the article not say)? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1200 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did you know you were going dutch when he asked you out? Just before the meal? After? This. Did you offer to pay half, not thinking he would accept? No. Did you make some remark about women's rights? No. Did he complain about the meal? Did you? No. Did anything significant happen between one date and the next? No. Did you see him again (or did the article not say)? In this hypothetical situation, no, I would not see him again. I disagree with his reason/attitude. | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 685 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did he express views on women's rights? Did he complain about something else? Were you late for the date? Did you spend longer in the restaurant than he had planned? Did he miss something he wanted to do afterwards? Did he get a parking fine? Was his reason based on something you said? did? nothing to do with you at all? would he have done the same with any girl he dated? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1202 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did he express views on women's rights? No. Did he complain about something else? No. Were you late for the date? No. Did you spend longer in the restaurant than he had planned? No. Did he miss something he wanted to do afterwards? Besides me? No. Did he get a parking fine? No. Was his reason based on something you said? did? No. nothing to do with you at all? Correct. would he have done the same with any girl he dated? Yes. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1214 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he just assume you were going dutch? did he only bring enough money for some of the meal? exactly half? was it only when the bill arrived that you found out you were expected to pay half? did you have money with you? or credit/debit card? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1209 Registered: 6-2005 |
did he just assume you were going dutch? Yes. did he only bring enough money for some of the meal? No. exactly half? No. was it only when the bill arrived that you found out you were expected to pay half? Yes. did you have money with you? Sure. or credit/debit card? Yes. | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 691 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was his reasoning based on his upbringing? his work? training? education? family customs? an experience he'd had? a character trait? did he want to know how you'd react? Was the previous date, where he'd paid for everything, the first date? Was he English? relevant? Did you eat in the same place? a similar place? in the same town? country? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1210 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was his reasoning based on his upbringing? Possibly. his work? Possibly. training? Possibly. education? Possibly. family Possibly. customs? Possibly. an experience he'd had? Possibly. a character trait? Possibly did he want to know how you'd react? No. Was the previous date, where he'd paid for everything, the first date? Yes. Was he English? Probably American. relevant? Somewhat, but not really Did you eat in the same place? No. Irr a similar place? Sure. Irr in the same town? Possibly. Irr country? Yes. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1218 Registered: 9-2003 |
so are we looking for his reason of why he paid on the first date, but assumed you were going dutch on the second? did he ask you out on the first one? did he ask you out in a similar manner for the next date? or did you both agree to go someone together for the second? was the second date to somewhere more expensive? less? about the same? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1212 Registered: 6-2005 |
so are we looking for his reason of why he paid on the first date, but assumed you were going dutch on the second? You've touched on the major reason already: to save money. But yes. And why wouldn't I agree with it? did he ask you out on the first one?Sure. did he ask you out in a similar manner for the next date?Yes. or did you both agree to go someone together for the second?This too. was the second date to somewhere more expensive? less? about the same? Irrelevant. It could have been any of these. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1222 Registered: 9-2003 |
hmm did he misunderstand something? maybe something you said? did he think you wanted to go dutch? that you were a feminist? that you had been annoyed that he had paid last time? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1214 Registered: 6-2005 |
hmm did he misunderstand something? Mmm... one concept possibly. But I'd have to say no. maybe something you said? No. did he think you wanted to go dutch? No. that you were a feminist? No. that you had been annoyed that he had paid last time? No. | ||
| Oirad (Oirad)
New member Username: Oirad Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2008 |
Did he have some bad experience with other girlfriends regarding money? Was he divorced and ex took him everything? Does he believe that partners should have independent finances? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1221 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did he have some bad experience with other girlfriends regarding money? Not to my knowledge. No. Was he divorced and ex took him everything? No and no. Does he believe that partners should have independent finances? Yope - may mislead. Explore this. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1233 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he think you earn more money than him? or just have more money than him? | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 715 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is it relevant whether he paid cash or credit card? Was he married? in a relationship? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1225 Registered: 6-2005 |
did he think you earn more money than him? No. or just have more money than him? No. Is it relevant whether he paid cash or credit card? No. Was he married? No. in a relationship? Other than me? No. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1242 Registered: 9-2003 |
hmm are expenses at work relevant? is method of payment relevant? type of place you went to? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1229 Registered: 6-2005 |
hmm are expenses at work relevant? No. is method of payment relevant? No. type of place you went to? No. | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 166 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did he consider this to be normal "protocol"? Did he think anybody else would behave in the same way in his position? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1231 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did he consider this to be normal "protocol"? Yes and no. Did he think anybody else would behave in the same way in his position? Yes and no. | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 180 Registered: 1-2007 |
Wow, just great. Which part did he consider normal: being a gentleman for the first date? going dutch for the second? (where by first and second i don't mean JUST the first, or JUST the second) | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1232 Registered: 6-2005 |
Wow, just great. Which part did he consider normal: being a gentleman for the first date? Yes. going dutch for the second? No. (And yes. Explore) (where by first and second i don't mean JUST the first, or JUST the second) | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1238 Registered: 6-2005 |
Hint: There is a misunderstanding involved. | ||
| Grainbeer (Grainbeer)
New member Username: Grainbeer Post Number: 245 Registered: 4-2002 |
Was this about payment for a meal at all? Or for something else? | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 721 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is there a linguistic side to this in his mind - he asked you out on the first date so he pays; you mutually agree the second date so you share costs? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1240 Registered: 6-2005 |
Grainbeer Was this about payment for a meal at all? Yes. Or something else? No. Sunshine Is there a linguistic side to this in his mind Yes. But... - he asked you out on the first date so he pays; Yes you mutually agree the second date so you share costs? Yope. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1287 Registered: 9-2003 |
is there a particular word misunderstood? one word with multiple meanings? or was the way it was used confusing? any slang involved? | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 11 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is there any possibility that it was Dutch night at the restaurant that night? So you said, "We'll go to Dutch night at the restaurant", and he misheard as "We'll go dutch tonight at the restaurant"? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1241 Registered: 6-2005 |
Damia: is there a particular word misunderstood? No.one word with multiple meanings? No. or was the way it was used confusing? No. any slang involved? {No.} Travis: Is there any possibility that it was Dutch night at the restaurant that night? No. So you said, "We'll go to Dutch night at the restaurant", and he misheard as "We'll go dutch tonight at the restaurant"? No, but nice jump | ||
| Ezhonok (Ezhonok)
New member Username: Ezhonok Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2008 |
Did he simply assume that it you should only pay for everything on the first date, and on the second it was a normal practice to "go dutch"? Did he hear or read someone say that? Or does he think he did? Apart from the facts we already know, is there something else relevant, that made this case look peculiar and therefore appear on a newspaper article? | ||
| Ezhonok (Ezhonok)
New member Username: Ezhonok Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2008 |
Let me rephrase it: without the facts we still don't know, would this case be in a newspaper article? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1251 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did he simply assume that it you should only pay for everything on the first date, and on the second it was a normal practice to "go dutch"? No. Did he hear or read someone say that? No. Or does he think he did? Does he think he did what? Apart from the facts we already know, is there something else relevant, that made this case look peculiar and therefore appear on a newspaper article? No. Let me rephrase it: without the facts we still don't know, would this case be in a newspaper article? No. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1339 Registered: 6-2005 |
Mkay, bored now. I can't even find the article I was thinking of. Due to lack of interest... *********************SPOILER********************* |
