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Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why did a newspaper wrongly report that a former sports star had died in England while playing the trumpet?
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 11:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the subject of the article a H? A? M?

Was the newspaper's error that he had died? he had died in England? that he was playing the trumpet?

Is there something in the sports star's name that punningly suggests he played the trumpet or some other instrument e.g. Greg Blewitt?

Did he actually play the trumpet at any stage of his life.
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Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 11:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter,

Is the subject of the article a H? A? M?
HUMAN, DEAD, FEMALE

Was the newspaper's error that he had died? he had died in England? that he was playing the trumpet?
SHE HAD NOT PLAYED THE TRUMPET

Is there something in the sports star's name that punningly suggests he played the trumpet or some other instrument e.g. Greg Blewitt?
NO

Did he actually play the trumpet at any stage of his life.
NO - SHE HAD NOT
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she from England? Is the newspaper British? Relevant? Translations or other languages relevant?

Should we figure out how she did die?
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gourami,

Is she from England?
NO OR IRRELEVANT

Is the newspaper British? Relevant?
NO, YES

Translations or other languages relevant?
YES

Should we figure out how she did die?
NO
Ostap (Ostap)
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she actually die? if so: did she die in England?
Relevant where in England?
Did the newspaper article actually give the impression that she died while playing the trumpet? or was it a pun? maybe on her name?
Relevant that she was a sports star? Relevant what kind of sport?
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 5:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ostap,

Did she actually die? if so: did she die in England?
YES, YES

Relevant where in England?
YES

Did the newspaper article actually give the impression that she died while playing the trumpet?
YES

or was it a pun? maybe on her name?
NO

Relevant that she was a sports star? Relevant what kind of sport?
NO, NO
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 11:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the paper actually think she had died while playing the trumpet?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 9:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter,

Did the paper actually think she had died while playing the trumpet?

YES
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 1:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will discovering the exact location in England help us solve? The first thing that popped into my head was maybe she was from Tooting but that would be more like a horn than a trumpet.

Was the newspaper's error a result of mishearing a word/phrase (like a mondegreen) ?misunderstanding a word/phrase?

Is her age at death relevant? Did the paper mention what she was playing at the time of her death? relevant?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

* * * SPOILER * * *

Peter,

Will discovering the exact location in England help us solve? The first thing that popped into my head was maybe she was from Tooting....

SHE WAS FROM TOOTING. A BULGARIAN NEWSPAPER TRANSLATED A REPORT THAT SHE HAD DIED IN TOOTING BY STATING THAT SHE HAD DIED WHILE PLAYING THE TRUMPET.

WELL DONE PETER
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 11:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh my goodness. Please believe me when I say that was just an attempt at wit and not remotely a guess at the solution. Sorry for spoiling so early. Great puzzle.

BTW Who was the deceased?
Bodo (Bodo)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ahem...horn more likely than trumpet for tooting???!?!?!! Excuse me? Sheesh!?!!? Sheesisness in the extreme, even!!111!1!! I'm off to sulk and toot, er, play my horn, then, excuse me...
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 10:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oops sorry Bodo and to Horn toot... blowers everywhere.

Although in Ireland when driving and wanting to show your displeasure at a fellow motorists behaviour (and sometimes to warn of potential danger) we TOOT OUR HORNS!!

Should I lobby for a change to this expression.
Bodo (Bodo)
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Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 8:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"...tootle the horn with vigor..."

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