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Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 1:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

After months away from the forum, something happened yesterday which suddenly got me thinking: "Why, that'd be a good lateral puzzle!" So here I am...

Joe was in a bookstore, looking through the selection. Upon finding one book, his response was: "Excellent, this book costs 12.99. Fantastic!"

He went to buy it, and discovered that according to the computer, it actually cost 9.99. Even better, you might think...but no. His response was: "Damn it. I knew it was too good to be true!"


Explain.
Mimino (Mimino)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 2:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he want to change a 20 quid note? did he need 7 pounds in coins?
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he write the book?
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 2:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he the author of the book?
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Oops! Two-minute cross-post there :-)
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he want to change a 20 quid note? did he need 7 pounds in coins? no - neither of these.

Did he write the book? / Is he the author of the book? no - but good guess(es) though! Reminds me of a story of an author who finds one of his books in a charity store, goes to buy it and is told it costs 10p. He obviously is demoralised at the prospect that his book is so worthless - when the cashier misreads his downward expression and goes: "Oh alright then, 5p" (!)
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 2:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would he gain financially in any way from the sale of the book?
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had he bought other books in the shop that day? Was there some sort of special offer if you spent over a certain amount? Is his method of payment relevant?
Logician (Logician)
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Would he gain financially in any way from the sale of the book? yope-ish
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Was the fact that it was the computer that said it was cheaper relevant? or could the sales assistant have just told him?
Did he want the book regardless of the price?
Was the price the reason he chose the book?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 5:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the fact that it was the computer that said it was cheaper relevant? or could the sales assistant have just told him? only in that there had been nothing on the book to indicate the lower price, which only came up when the barcode was scanned. So the answer to your first question is no - it's just practically the most likely.
Did he want the book regardless of the price? yes
Was the price the reason he chose the book? yes
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So if the book had not been priced at 12.99 he would not have wanted it?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 5:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So if the book had not been priced at 12.99 he would not have wanted it? yope...sorry, I probably wasn't clear in my last two answers. It was one of those "I'd-really-like-to-read-it-someday" books - the reason he chose it on that day was the price. Otherwise, he probably wouldn't have picked it up. But likewise, it wasn't as if he would've chosen any random book just because he thought it cost 12.99.

Hope that clears it up.
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 6:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he think 12.99 was a cheap price for the book?
Was it actually the book he wanted?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 6:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he think 12.99 was a cheap price for the book? not necessarily - he had no opinion as to how cheap/expensive it was; just that it was (at least, he thought it was) 12.99.
Was it actually the book he wanted? FA
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Did he want the book?
Did he just want to spend 12.99 on something?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he want the book? yes, in the "I'd-really-like-to-read-it-someday-but-not-too-fussed-when-that-day-comes" sense described above
Did he just want to spend 12.99 on something? but also YESish! Do explore (:
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some kind of scavenger hunt involved?
Liquizt (Liquizt)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some kind of promotion involved?

If the book were 12.99 could he have somehow purchased it for less than 9.99?

Did he buy anything else at the same time? relevant?
If the book were 12.99 could he have purchased it with other item(s) for less than the total cost of the other item(s) and a 9.99 book?
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think you missed my 3.47 post
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 8:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some kind of scavenger hunt involved? nope

Some kind of promotion involved? YES!

If the book were 12.99 could he have somehow purchased it for less than 9.99? no, but...

Did he buy anything else at the same time? relevant?
If the book were 12.99 could he have purchased it with other item(s) for less than the total cost of the other item(s) and a 9.99 book? All YES!!

I do believe that warrants a:

***** SPOILER *****

"Joe" is me, and yesterday I went into WHSmiths with some 'money off' vouchers that were due to expire that day. The one which I tried to use was "Get 5 if you spend 20". The other book cost 7.99, so combined with 12.99 (the RRP) that would've been 20.98.

Perfect, I thought! Just over the 20 limit! I go to the checkout, and am told that for some strange reason, the computer has it logged as 9.99, so that's how much it costs!

After much grumbling, I go get another book I quite like the look of to make up the 20+ - which, although I spent more than I thought I would, meant I got to use the voucher! Yay! (:

Well done to you all, especially to Liquizt for finishing it off!
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 8:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think you missed my 3.47 post Oh, I'm sorry - no idea how that happened. If it's any consolation, as the spoiler shows, you basically got the puzzle with your question: Was there some sort of special offer if you spent over a certain amount? So congratulations are also due to you. Well done! (:
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Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If I'm not mistaken, it was a 3:41 post (: At least that's what my computer says

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