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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 326 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 8:10 pm: |      |
Their lives were in danger, but the environmentalists were still annoyed. |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 2138 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 8:41 pm: |      |
They: Animals? Human? Environmentalists are always annoyed... don't you know that? ;) Lives in danger meaning about to die? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 327 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 1:02 am: |      |
They: Animals? Human? This. Environmentalists are always annoyed... don't you know that? ;) Lives in danger meaning about to die? Yes. |
Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami
Post Number: 181 Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 4:20 pm: |      |
Was something environmentally unsound done to save lives? Were animals killed to save people? Do the environmentalists dislike "they"? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 328 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 7:39 pm: |      |
Was something environmentally unsound done to save lives? Yes. Were animals killed to save people? No. Do the environmentalists dislike "they"? No. |
Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs
Post Number: 10 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 9:43 pm: |      |
Place relevant? Time? Real? FYOI? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 329 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 10:05 pm: |      |
Place relevant? Yes. Time? Yes. Real? Yes. FYOI? No. |
Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14
Post Number: 191 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 11:29 pm: |      |
Are they attempting to save themselves? Or are they being saved by someone else? The envs would prefer if they were left to die? Are the envs upset about: animals? pollution? plants? Is this set in an urban environment? In the middle of nature? Inbetween? (such as in a small town) Is time relevant as in the moment of day? the general era? the precise moment? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 330 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 2:43 am: |      |
Are they attempting to save themselves? Or are they being saved by someone else? Both. The envs would prefer if they were left to die? No. Are the envs upset about: animals? pollution? This. plants? Is this set in an urban environment? In the middle of nature? This. Inbetween? (such as in a small town) Is time relevant as in the moment of day? the general era? This. the precise moment? And this. |
Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14
Post Number: 193 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 9:36 am: |      |
Is a car relevant? A plane? A factory? :D Are they being rescued by a polluting vehicule? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 331 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 12:04 pm: |      |
Is a car relevant? No. A plane? No. A factory? :D No. Are they being rescued by a polluting vehicule? Yes. |
Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14
Post Number: 195 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 3:16 pm: |      |
Is the vehicle's engine polluting, or is there something special about the vehicle? Helicopter? Truck? Tank? Motorcycle? Airborne? Land? Sea? Is the nature of the danger relevant, or just so much as to require rescue? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 332 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 7:14 pm: |      |
Is the vehicle's engine polluting, Yes. or is there something special about the vehicle? Yes. Helicopter? Truck? Tank? Motorcycle? None of the above. Airborne? No. Land? No. Sea? No. Is the nature of the danger relevant, Yes. or just so much as to require rescue? No. |
Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14
Post Number: 196 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 7:42 pm: |      |
Snow / avalanches relevant? Is it a digging vehicle? Is the vehicle only used for rescue missions? Primarily used as such? Rarely used as such (improvised)? Does more than one such vehicle exist? More than 1000? The environmentalists are present anywhere relevant, or is it just a reaction to the news of the rescue? (hope you understand what i mean) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 333 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 10:04 pm: |      |
Snow / avalanches relevant? Neither. Is it a digging vehicle? No. Is the vehicle only used for rescue missions? No. Primarily used as such? No. Rarely used as such Yes. (improvised)? Yes. Does more than one such vehicle exist? Yes. More than 1000? No. The environmentalists are present anywhere relevant, No or is it just a reaction to the news of the rescue? Yes. (hope you understand what i mean) |
Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14
Post Number: 199 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 11:24 pm: |      |
So you said it's neither a land vehicle, nor a water vehicle nor a flying machine. That's a bit weird. If it's not an ice vehicle either, I don't think I know any other types of vehicles. Does it go on: Wheels? Tracks? Jets? Wind power? Robotic legs? Hover? Rolling itself? Heck, is it a lawnmower? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 334 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 1:06 am: |      |
So you said it's neither a land vehicle Correct, nor a water vehicle Correct nor a flying machine Incorrect, it does fly.. That's a bit weird. If it's not an ice vehicle either Nope, I don't think I know any other types of vehicles. I was perhaps a bit too technical in a previous answer -- see if you can guess which one! Does it go on: Wheels? No. Tracks? No. Jets? Yesish. Wind power? No. Robotic legs? No. Hover? It can do this. Rolling itself? No. Heck, is it a lawnmower? No. |
Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14
Post Number: 204 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 9:00 am: |      |
So it ain't a plane and it ain't a helicopter. Maybe you were too technical about it not being a plane. Is it a commercial jet? a fighter? a tiny amateur plane? Is it a rocket? A spaceship? How many people can it carry? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? 7? 8? Less than 100? More? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 338 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 12:30 pm: |      |
So it ain't a plane and it ain't a helicopter. Correct. Maybe you were too technical about it not being a plane. No. Is it a commercial jet? a fighter? a tiny amateur plane? None of the above. Is it a rocket? It has rockets, yes. A spaceship? Yes. How many people can it carry? 1? 2? This, officially. 3? If you squeeze. 4? 5? 6? 7? 8? Less than 100? More? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 1407 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 3:38 pm: |      |
Is it the Lunar Module on the Apollo 13 spacecraft? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 1408 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 3:38 pm: |      |
Is it the Lunar Module on the Apollo 13 spacecraft? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 341 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 3:58 pm: |      |
Yep. Spoiler: *************************** Aquarius, the Apollo 13 lunar module, which doubled as a lifeboat during the flight, carried a nuclear power generator for one of the lunar experiments. Since it was not left on the moon, the return trajectory had to be modified to cause the LM to splash down in one of the deepest parts of the Pacific Ocean so that it was less likely to cause contamination. |
Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt
Post Number: 418 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 6:54 pm: |      |
Did you perhaps intend "Their lives were NOT in danger..."? It seems funny to me the puzzle progressed so far and to completition(!) without that point ever being raised... |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 342 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 7:05 pm: |      |
Good point. It could probably have been written either way. On the other hand, their lives were still in danger after they piled into the LM. The world was watching, but nuclear protesters still worried about what would happen when/if the LM returned to Earth... People did seem to get the intended meaning, though. |
Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami
Post Number: 186 Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 7:05 pm: |      |
No, it makes sense. Their lives were in danger, and people were still concerned about nuclear contamination. |
Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt
Post Number: 419 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 7:14 pm: |      |
it was the "but" in the puzzle statement that got me, which seemed to imply that the environmentalists would prefer them dead. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 343 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 7:41 pm: |      |
Ah, I see. You're right, that wasn't my intention. I'm not sure how I could have avoided that connotation, though. The alternative, "Their lives were saved, but environmentalists were still annoyed," might suggest that while happy their lives were saved, environmentalists were still annoyed by something else? Would that have been better? |
Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt
Post Number: 421 Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 7:56 pm: |      |
I think so. Although if it were my puzzle I would also have substituted 'they' in place of 'environmentalists' to make it a little harder (: Which also would have prompted the question 'their = they?' and would have not immediately suggested they were annoyed by something else. |