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We saw the sign saying they could not ride. And once I explained it, we passed those familiar words. But, they seemed so cold this time.
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Was this a sign forbidding something? like No bicycles? Bicycles relevant? Horses? something else you ride?

Is your location relevant? Did the location make the sign ironic in some way?

Were you walking past the sign ? Driving? Cycling?

By cold do you mean heartless?
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Ooo, me!! Pick me!!! I know this one! (:
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"You must be X tall to ride"?
Are midgets relevant?
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Are they roller-coasting children who have hidden frozen chickens inside their Dr Seuss-style hats to make them seem taller?
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Peter365 - Was this a sign forbidding something? yes like No bicycles? Bicycles relevant? Horses? something else you ride? no to all

Is your location relevant? yesish, could have been somewhere else Did the location make the sign ironic in some way? FA here, there is more than one sign involved

Were you walking past the sign ? Driving? this one Cycling?

By cold do you mean heartless? yes

Bodo -
Ooo, me!! Pick me!!! I know this one! (: oh stop it

Dlcygnet - "You must be X tall to ride"?
Are midgets relevant? no to both

Woodworm - Are they roller-coasting children who have hidden frozen chickens inside their Dr Seuss-style hats to make them seem taller? um...not this time, but maybe the next puzzle
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Were there two signs? One saying they could not ride, and the one with the familiar words tht seemed cold?

Were "they" who cannot ride with you in the car? Are "they" a particular group of people? Governed by age? Size? Something else?

Could they not ride a vehicle? A rollercoaster or similar?
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Enjay - Were there two signs? yes One saying they could not ride, yes and the one with the familiar words tht seemed cold? yes

Were "they" who cannot ride with you in the car? no Are "they" a particular group of people? yope Governed by age? Size? Something else? not governed exactly, they have no distinguishing physical characteristic(s)

Could they not ride a vehicle? this one A rollercoaster or similar? no
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When you say ride, do you mean they were not allowed to drive? Or simply not allowed to travel in a vehicle?

Oh wait, is this vehicle a car? bicycle? motorbike? truck?

Age relevant?

Carpool lanes relevant?

Was there something exclusive about the road or where you were? Would it be fair for this forbidding sign be put up on any other road as well?

You say you explained the sign - was this because the words were misleading? complicated? misunderstood by whoever you were explaining it to?
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Noobdogg -
When you say ride, do you mean they were not allowed to drive? that too, but less relevant Or simply not allowed to travel in a vehicle? mostly this

Oh wait, is this vehicle a car? yes bicycle? no motorbike? yes truck? yes

Age relevant? not really, say adult

Carpool lanes relevant? no

Was there something exclusive about the road or where you were? no Would it be fair for this forbidding sign be put up on any other road as well? yope

You say you explained the sign - was this because the words were misleading? no complicated? noish misunderstood by whoever you were explaining it to? yesish
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So in other words, the first, forbidding sign referred to motor vehicles in general, not a specific type?

Were the words on the second sign "familiar" because you had seen that exact sign before? or is it a common road sign that could be seen in many places?

Was the cold, familiar sign ironic because of the words on the forbidding sign (now that we have clarified the FA)?
Does the coldness result from an unintended interpretation of the second sign, as a result of seeing the first sign? or from a correct interpretation of the second sign?
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Biograd -

So in other words, the first, forbidding sign referred to motor vehicles in general, not a specific type? yes

Were the words on the second sign "familiar" because you had seen that exact sign before? noish or is it a common road sign that could be seen in many places? yes

Was the cold, familiar sign ironic because of the words on the forbidding sign (now that we have clarified the FA)? indirectly
Does the coldness result from an unintended interpretation of the second sign, yope as a result of seeing the first sign? yope or from a correct interpretation of the second sign? no
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Are the "yopes" because there are two equally valid ways of understanding the familiar sign? because it's hard to say what was "intended" in this instance?

Did the familiar sign refer to:
in what direction one may or may not drive (e.g. "one way" or "no left turn")?
something referring to a form of transportation other than driving (e.g. "no bikes")?
a speed limit?
a potential road hazard ahead (e.g. "narrow bridge")?

Were the two signs on the same road? If so, was this road intended only as a bike route? a hiking trail?
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Are the "yopes" because there are two equally valid ways of understanding the familiar sign? because it's hard to say what was "intended" in this instance?

Did the familiar sign refer to:
in what direction one may or may not drive (e.g. "one way" or "no left turn")?
something referring to a form of transportation other than driving (e.g. "no bikes")?
a speed limit?
a potential road hazard ahead (e.g. "narrow bridge")?

Were the two signs on the same road? If so, was this road intended only as a bike route? a hiking trail?
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Biograd -
Are the "yopes" because there are two equally valid ways of understanding the familiar sign? yes because it's hard to say what was "intended" in this instance? no

Did the familiar sign refer to:
in what direction one may or may not drive (e.g. "one way" or "no left turn")? no
something referring to a form of transportation other than driving (e.g. "no bikes")? no
a speed limit? no
a potential road hazard ahead (e.g. "narrow bridge")? no


Were the two signs on the same road? yes
If so, was this road intended only as a bike route? no a hiking trail? no
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Does one of the signs refer to weather conditions? Or Road condtions?
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Kaygee -

Does one of the signs refer to weather conditions? no Or Road condtions? no, some might say noish
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"They" in "they could not ride"...
Children?
Adults?
Pets?
Human? animal? Vegetable? mineral?
Hitchhikers?
Prisoners?
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Dlcygnet - "They" in "they could not ride"...
Children? presumeably
Adults? yes
Pets?
Human? yes animal? Vegetable? mineral?
Hitchhikers? This one in particular
Prisoners? These too
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"No Hitchhiking"?
Motorcycles not permitted? Bycicles not permitted? No horses?
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familar words: "No walking along/beside road" or words to that effect?
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Dlcygnet -
"No Hitchhiking"? this one, but they also gave the reason
Motorcycles not permitted? Bycicles not permitted? No horses? none of these

Liquizt -
familar words: "No walking along/beside road" or words to that effect? no
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Is the combined affect of the two signs to suggest that people standing at the side of the road don't have any options here (i.e. like with the 'no hitchhiking'-'no walking along the road' example)? iff so: is it the reason why hitchhiking is not allowed in particular, coupled with the second sign, that leaves them with no options?

Is the coldness a result of the correct/intended interpretation of both signs? the correct/intended interpretation of one sign and an incorrect/unintended but valid interpretation of the other? or the incorrect/unintended but valid interpretation of both signs?
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Liquizt -

Is the combined affect of the two signs to suggest that people standing at the side of the road don't have any options here (i.e. like with the 'no hitchhiking'-'no walking along the road' example)? no if so: is it the reason why hitchhiking is not allowed in particular, coupled with the second sign, that leaves them with no options? no

Is the coldness a result of the correct/intended interpretation of both signs? no the correct/intended interpretation of one sign and an incorrect/unintended but valid interpretation of the other? yes or the incorrect/unintended but valid interpretation of both signs? no
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Hey, I'm back after being gone for some time...

Was the reason for no hitchhiking:
...danger to the hitchhiker?
...danger to the motorist picking up a hitchhiker?
...danger to other motorists on the road?
...some temporary condition (either in time or in space)? Such as a narrow bridge or a busy highway? Or such as during construction or at night or during winter?
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Antesse -

Hey, I'm back after being gone for some time... wb

Was the reason for no hitchhiking:
...danger to the hitchhiker?
...danger to the motorist picking up a hitchhiker? this one is most likely
...danger to other motorists on the road?
...some temporary condition (either in time or in space)? no Such as a narrow bridge or a busy highway? Or such as during construction or at night or during winter? none of these
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So, as a follow-up...

In not so many words, the sign says "Do not pick up hitchhikers because it will endanger you"?

Did the sign say "Danger: Hitchikers"?

Would the danger to motorists be from hitchikers themselves (as in dangerous passengers, serial killers, sick twisted people, etc)? Or would it be from other cars in the road (having to stop and possibly get hit)?
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Antesse -

So, as a follow-up...

In not so many words, the sign says "Do not pick up hitchhikers yes because it will endanger you"? implied, but not said specifically

Did the sign say "Danger: Hitchikers"? no

Would the danger to motorists be from hitchikers themselves (as in dangerous passengers, serial killers, sick twisted people, etc)? yes Or would it be from other cars in the road (having to stop and possibly get hit)?no
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Was there a prison or a mental hospital in the area you were in?
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Bigpurple -

Was there a prison or a mental hospital in the area you were in? yes
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Was it a prison? A mental hospital? One of each? One for criminally insane?

Did the sign insult or put down inmates/insanes? Indirectly or directly?

Say something that turned out to be kinda cold to them?
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Antesse -

Was it a prison? yes A mental hospital? no One of each? no One for criminally insane? there may be some people like that about

Did the sign insult or put down inmates/insanes? Indirectly or directly? no

Say something that turned out to be kinda cold to them? yes

Just to be clear, we are talking about the second sign here
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Did the first sign say "Do not pick up hitchikers" and was near a lake so it was followed by a description of 'parasites' and other things they don't want to contaminate the lake or contaminate your home? Then the next sign said "Correctional Facility; Do Not pick up Hitchikers"? Thus implying that the prisoners were 'parasites'?
Signs I'm talking about:
http://www.epa.gov/owow/lakes/month/pdf/hitchhiker.pdf
vs.
http://www.pbase.com/generale/image/20180205
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Dlcygnet -

Did the first sign say "Do not pick up hitchikers" yes, in different words, but that is the idea and was near a lake so it was followed by a description of 'parasites' and other things they don't want to contaminate the lake or contaminate your home? no. this might have made a good follow-up puzzle Then the next sign said "Correctional Facility; Do Not pick up Hitchikers"? this is more like the first sign Thus implying that the prisoners were 'parasites'? no
Signs I'm talking about:
http://www.epa.gov/owow/lakes/month/pdf/hitchhiker.pdf
vs.
http://www.pbase.com/generale/image/20180205
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Were sign one and sign two supposed to be related to each other? Or is that only the perception?

Would most people notice the perceived relationship between them?
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Antesse -

Were sign one and sign two supposed to be related to each other? no Or is that only the perception? yes

Would most people notice the perceived relationship between them? most likely
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So the first sign said "Prison Area; No hitchhiking"?
And the seconds sign said... "________; Do not pick up hitchhikers"?

Filling in the blank...
Next five miles?
Some sort of distance?
Some sort of Institution?
Other?
Nothing at all?
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Had you seen these two signs in close proximity before? Would you expect to see them together anywhere else?

Is the person you explained it to relevant? If so, a child?

Cold = Unfeeling? Cruel?

Is the weather relevant?

Would you expect to see the non-prison-related sign somewhere else? But not there? Was it understandable to find it there?

Can we assume that one of the signs said something to the effect of -- "State prison next five miles; do not pick up hitch-hikers?" If so was it the first sign you saw, or the second? If the order were reversed, would the meaning be changed?
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Dlcygnet -

So the first sign said "Prison Area; No hitchhiking"? yes
And the seconds sign said... "________; Do not pick up hitchhikers"? no


Filling in the blank...
Next five miles?
Some sort of distance?
Some sort of Institution?
Other?
Nothing at all? see above

Jenburdoo -

Had you seen these two signs in close proximity before? no Would you expect to see them together anywhere else? no

Is the person you explained it to relevant? not really If so, a child? yes

Cold = Unfeeling? Cruel? yes

Is the weather relevant? no

Would you expect to see the non-prison-related sign somewhere else? yes But not there? it is a surprize that it is here, but not unrealistic Was it understandable to find it there? yes

Can we assume that one of the signs said something to the effect of -- "State prison next five miles; do not pick up hitch-hikers?" not in those words, but yes If so was it the first sign you saw, yes or the second? no If the order were reversed, would the meaning be changed? I would say slightly, some might disagree
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The second sign:

Is it mainly text? Or pictures/symbols? Or both?

Is its topic/purpose:
traffic control (as in Lane Ends or Slow Down or Work Zone)?
traffic speed (as in Speed Limit 55)?
attractions/rest stops/eateries/gas/etc (as in Funworld Exit 12)?
safety (as in Click It or Ticket)?
nature-related? (as in Deadman Lake)
municipal/state/country (as in "Welcome to Dead End, Pop. 3000)?

Is there a sign saying Do Not Enter right as you pass the prison?

If you passed these signs not in front of a prison, would it make sense? Be cold?
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Antesse -

The second sign:

Is it mainly text? yes Or pictures/symbols? no Or both? yes

Is its topic/purpose:
traffic control (as in Lane Ends or Slow Down or Work Zone)? no
traffic speed (as in Speed Limit 55)? no
attractions/rest stops/eateries/gas/etc (as in Funworld Exit 12)? no
safety (as in Click It or Ticket)? no
nature-related? (as in Deadman Lake) no
municipal/state/country (as in "Welcome to Dead End, Pop. 3000)? no

Is there a sign saying Do Not Enter right as you pass the prison? no

If you passed these signs not in front of a prison, would it make sense? yope Be cold? no
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Hmmm...was expecting on of my purposes to be right...okay, here goes...

Is the second signs purpose...
...for motorists? ...for pedestrians? ...for animals?
...to say something about the road? ...the things within 100 feet of the road? ...within 1000 feet? ...within a mile? ...within a municipality? ...within a state?

The yope...is it because a set of signs not outside a prison would have a sign warning about a prison when there is none? But the combination would be the same if say...outside a different prison in a different location?

And a stab in the dark?

"_____ Xing" Relevant? As in Deer Xing right after a prison sign implying inmates are deer? (Can't really think of how that would be offensive so obviously a different animal would work better)
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Hmmm...was expecting on of my purposes to be right...okay, here goes...

Is the second signs purpose...
...for motorists? ...for pedestrians? ...for animals?
...to say something about the road? ...the things within 100 feet of the road? ...within 1000 feet? ...within a mile? ...within a municipality? ...within a state?

The yope...is it because a set of signs not outside a prison would have a sign warning about a prison when there is none? But the combination would be the same if say...outside a different prison in a different location?

And a stab in the dark.

"_____ Xing" Relevant? As in Deer Xing right after a prison sign implying inmates are deer? (Can't really think of how that would be offensive so obviously a different animal would work better)
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Antesse -

Hmmm...was expecting on of my purposes to be right...okay, here goes...

Is the second signs purpose...
...for motorists? yes ...for pedestrians? yes ...for animals? no
...to say something about the road? no
...the things within 100 feet of the road? could be
...within 1000 feet? could be
...within a mile? could be
...within a municipality? yope
...within a state? yope


The yope...is it because a set of signs not outside a prison would have a sign warning about a prison when there is none? yes But the combination would be the same if say...outside a different prison in a different location? yes

And a stab in the dark?

"_____ Xing" Relevant? As in Deer Xing right after a prison sign implying inmates are deer? no, sorry..bad stab (Can't really think of how that would be offensive so obviously a different animal would work better)

HINT: Go back to the purpose of the second sign
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Second sign...

"_______; No hitchhiking"?
"No hitchhiking; ______"?
"No hitchhiking" + some completely unrelated sign? i.e. They happened to post the "hunting season open" sign right next to the old hitchhiking sign?
Was the second sign posted near a large Ad board that had something oddly related?
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The coldness...

Is it outright mean?
Is it a possible insult?
Is it a completely accidental coldness?
A humorous coldness?
Would some people nod in agreement with the coldness?

Would the coldness apply to a prison only?
Or only for places of correction?
Or only places where people are unable to leave?
Would it work for "prisons" for other species (outside of the fact that hitchhiking wouldn't fit) like a dog pound or a zoo or a farm?
Would it work for inanimate objects "imprisoned" such as a car impound lot or a junkyard?

Don't remember if this was asked...but are these signs in the country of _____ (insert list of countries)?

What color was the first sign...and by that I mean was it _____ (insert list of colors)?

What color was the second sign...and by that I mean was it _____ (insert list of colors)?

Is there some special type of prison? Womens prison? Mens prison? Juvenile Hall? Political prison? POW camp? Maximum security lockdown? Minimum security lockdown?

Is the prison somewhere odd or unusual? In a valley? On top of a hill? On an island? Underground?

A random guess again...

"No swimming." right across from an island prison?
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Dlcygnet -

Second sign...

"_______; No hitchhiking"? no
"No hitchhiking; ______"? no
"No hitchhiking" + some completely unrelated sign? no
i.e. They happened to post the "hunting season open" sign right next to the old hitchhiking sign? no
Was the second sign posted near a large Ad board that had something oddly related? no, but...

Antesse -

The coldness...

Is it outright mean? yes
Is it a possible insult? no
Is it a completely accidental coldness? unlikely, but possible
A humorous coldness? yes
Would some people nod in agreement with the coldness? yes

Would the coldness apply to a prison only? probably not, but prison is best fit IMHO
Or only for places of correction? possibly
Or only places where people are unable to leave? could be
Would it work for "prisons" for other species (outside of the fact that hitchhiking wouldn't fit) like a dog pound or a zoo or a farm? yes
Would it work for inanimate objects "imprisoned" such as a car impound lot or a junkyard? no

Don't remember if this was asked...but are these signs in the country of _____ (insert list of countries)? USA, but could be anywhere

What color was the first sign...and by that I mean was it _____ (insert list of colors)? as I recall is was that typical off-white with black lettering

What color was the second sign...and by that I mean was it _____ (insert list of colors)? several colors

Is there some special type of prison? no
Womens prison? Mens prison? Juvenile Hall? Political prison? POW camp? Maximum security lockdown? Minimum security lockdown? could be any of these, not relevant which


Is the prison somewhere odd or unusual? In a valley? On top of a hill? On an island? Underground? no to all

A random guess again...

"No swimming." right across from an island prison?
not this time, nice try though
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Was the implication of the words on the second sign (as a result of the first sign) that the would-be hitchhikers are not human beings? that it is permitted to run them over or otherwise injure them with your vehicle? that something would be done to anyone who attempted to hitchhike? Was anything directly implied about the potential hitchhikers at all (as opposed to prisoners in general, or the facility itself)?

According to your last answers, it seemed the second sign was not there to be taken seriously, but in fact the cruel joke meaning was intentional?
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Was the second sign mean in respect to:
the prisoners captivity?
lack of mobility (small space)?
diet (killer pepper steak and low grade meat)?
exercise capability?
fashion (orange jumpsuit)?
shower conditions?
health plan?
forced work (chain gangs)?
lack of rights?
vertical bars?
the ethnic/demographic aspects of prisons?

Was the second sign a standard sign featured along sides of roads?
Was it a sign along a standard model of signs?
Was the second sign actually a billboard or advertisement? Or was it municipal/state/government placed?

Did the second sign suggest that you should go somewhere? As in a sign for go to Happy Island in Joy State? Did it use the word "free" in the sense of being without bounds or walls? Did it in any way praise the "outdoors"? Was the second sign visible from the prison? Was it readable?
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Was the second sign completely unrelated to hitchhiking? Completely unrelated to the prison? It just happened to connect to the first sign? Something like "don't feed the animals"? Was the second sign a traffic sign? Or a billboard? An advertisement?
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Biograd -

Was the implication of the words on the second sign (as a result of the first sign) that the would-be hitchhikers are not human beings? no that it is permitted to run them over or otherwise injure them with your vehicle? no that something would be done to anyone who attempted to hitchhike? no Was anything directly implied about the potential hitchhikers at all (as opposed to prisoners in general, or the facility itself)? no

According to your last answers, it seemed the second sign was not there to be taken seriously, but in fact the cruel joke meaning was intentional? yope


Antesse -
Was the second sign mean in respect to:
the prisoners captivity? yesish
lack of mobility (small space)? no
diet (killer pepper steak and low grade meat)?
exercise capability? no
fashion (orange jumpsuit)? no
shower conditions? no
health plan? no
forced work (chain gangs)? no
lack of rights? no
vertical bars? yes
the ethnic/demographic aspects of prisons? no
Was the second sign a standard sign featured along sides of roads? if you mean can it be found along other roads, yes
Was it a sign along a standard model of signs? there are similar signs in other places that say the same or other things, yes
Was the second sign actually a billboard or advertisement? yes Or was it municipal/state/government placed? no

Did the second sign suggest that you should go somewhere? no As in a sign for go to Happy Island in Joy State? no Did it use the word "free" in the sense of being without bounds or walls? no Did it in any way praise the "outdoors"? no Was the second sign visible from the prison? yes Was it readable? yes

Dlcygnet -
Was the second sign completely unrelated to hitchhiking? yes Completely unrelated to the prison? yope It just happened to connect to the first sign? noish Something like "don't feed the animals"? no Was the second sign a traffic sign? Or a billboard? this one An advertisement? this too

Now we're getting somewhere. Good questions, guys!
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Was it an ad for:

food/a restaurant/foodstore?
some other item that could be found in a supermarket?
a car?
an electronic device?
a service?
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Biograd -

Was it an ad for:

food/a restaurant/foodstore? no
some other item that could be found in a supermarket? yope, FA lurking
a car? no
an electronic device? yope
a service? yes
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Was it an add for window treatments? Did it have a slogan like "bar your doors and windows"? An ad for locksmith services? Was it a political ad?
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Dlcygnet -

Was it an add for window treatments? no Did it have a slogan like "bar your doors and windows"? no An ad for locksmith services? no Was it a political ad? no

Keep trying!
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Was it an "advertisement" for not getting in jail? As in "rob a bank, end up here" and the "here" is either a generic room with barred windows/doors? Or the actual prison you are driving past? And prisoners can say, "Well now I know..."?

Did the service advertised directly have to do with prisons/cells/jail bars? Did it use prisons as a sort of metaphor for what they protect/save you from? Does the service have a sort of prison-theme?

Does the service have zero locations (as in stores/offices)? One location? Several in a local area? Several in a tri/quad/five-city or city-and-suburbs area? Many locations in the state? Many in several states/region? Many across the country? Many worldwide? Any of this relevant?

Is the name of the service company/organization relevant? Location? What the service they provide is?
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Antesse -

Was it an "advertisement" for not getting in jail? no As in "rob a bank, end up here" and the "here" is either a generic room with barred windows/doors? no, but good idea Or the actual prison you are driving past? no And prisoners can say, "Well now I know..."? no

Did the service advertised directly have to do with prisons/cells/jail bars? no Did it use prisons as a sort of metaphor for what they protect/save you from? no Does the service have a sort of prison-theme? no

Does the service have zero locations (as in stores/offices)? no One location? no Several in a local area? probably Several in a tri/quad/five-city or city-and-suburbs area? probably Many locations in the state? yes Many in several states/region? yes Many across the country? yes Many worldwide? that too Any of this relevant? only if it helps you guess the service

Is the name of the service company/organization relevant? indirectly Location? no What the service they provide is? indirectly
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if i have a guess can i venture it at this point? I am pretty sure I know... I am new to the forum.
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Usmcfink -

if i have a guess can i venture it at this point? I am pretty sure I know... I am new to the forum.

Since it is no longer early, I don't think it is fair for me to block you. Swoop away.
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AT&T "More Bars in More Places" =)
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Usmcfink -

AT&T "More Bars in More Places" =)

Correct. $poyler to follow
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******** SPOILER *********

Last summer I was driving the family back home after a long vacation. As we were departing Las Vegas on I-15 North we passed a sign saying "No hitch-hiking, prison area". As I was explaining to my children what that sign meant, we passed the prison itself. Out in front of the prison, in full view of many prisoners, was an billboard with the familiar AT&T advertisement "More bars in more places". I thought, how cruel is that? At the same time, I was quite certain some marketing person was driving by the prison and could not resist the opportunity to get his AT&T ad up on that board.

Well swooped, Usmc. Thanks for all the hard work, guys!
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By the way...I think that is HILARIOUS! Cruel...but my co-workers and I had a good laugh today =)
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Wow. Great puzzle. Congrats and welcome to Usmcfink! Any explanation on your name?
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My name is just smashed together; it is USMC Fink. USMC because of my involvement in the U.S. Marine Corps and Fink is my last name. I am known online as either usmcfink or TMF. The reason I use usmcfink is because it is my active email address that I created many years ago when I first joined the Corps. TMF are my initials. You may see me change over to TMF, I'm not sure =)
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Okay, thanks. I was assuming usmc was US Marine Corps but did not know if it may have been US McFink or if Fink was a surname or some sort of nickname or descriptor. But welcome again.
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thank you =)

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