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Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Considering the election just passed, here's a scrund for you all.
Many people have this scrund about the election process. The voting ballets may have caused this scrund, but they could fix it. What is it?
Rcs (Rcs)
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Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with the Electoral College? That it even exists (I KNOW there are people out there with this scrund)? How it functions?
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 2:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with the Electoral College?Yes That it even exists (I KNOW there are people out there with this scrund)?No How it functions?Yope
Rcs (Rcs)
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant...

How electoral votes are distributed by state? Why some states have more electoral votes than others? How states assign their electoral votes? That not all states are "winner take all"? That Washington, DC has electoral votes? What happens if there's a tie in the electoral college? Faithless electors relevant?
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 2:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the states of Maine & Nebraska central to your scrund?
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant...

How electoral votes are distributed by state? Why some states have more electoral votes than others? How states assign their electoral votes? That not all states are "winner take all"?Hmm didn't know that... but no That Washington, DC has electoral votes? What happens if there's a tie in the electoral college? Faithless electors relevant?This is the closest

Are the states of Maine & Nebraska central to your scrund?No to this and the ones that are unanswered
Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 7:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

that electors are not bound to vote in accordance with the will of the constituents of the state?
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 2:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

that electors are not bound to vote in accordance with the will of the constituents of the state?Not this
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 1:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That voting is not as anonymous as you might think?
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 1:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it that when you vote for President, you're really voting for a slate of electors who have pledged to vote for that candidate, and that many people don't realize this since the ballots don't list the electors?
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 12:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That voting is not as anonymous as you might think?No

Is it that when you vote for President, you're really voting for a slate of electors who have pledged to vote for that candidate, and that many people don't realize this since the ballots don't list the electors?Congrats! I knew this would be a quickee, but...

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Just read above. It's completely correct
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not exactly one man one vote is it?
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's a little more complicated.
Bodo (Bodo)
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Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, you wouldn't want the unwashed rabble to truly have a say in who achieves a position of ultimate power in government, would you? That's how complex it is. Keep in mind that our government was based on the English model - the Senate is the House of Lords and the Representatives are the House of Commons, and it was assumed that the commoners were, well, less able because they weren't nobly born (I mean, really). Bottom line, Wyoming and Alaska together have twice the influence of California in the Senate, so 1,206,308 people can override 36,553,215. There are more than 1,206,308 people living within 30 miles of me, and I'm not even in the most densely populated part of the state, sheesh.

Personally, I'd love to see the Electoral College either disbanded or made into a proportionately-awarded institution (there are only a couple of states that have that, AFAIK), but it would have to be implemented nationwide at the same time (i. e. through federal mandate) or it wouldn't work.
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well in Ireland we have porportional representation where you can transfer your vote to a second third , fourth etc. candidate in order of your preference. It sounds good in practice as a party receiving 20% of the vote is likely to have 20% of the seats. However it tends to make getting an overall majority difficult and often leaves a small party or a bunch of independants holding the balance of power. Because of this we have had a party who have had 3 government ministries yet only 2% of the vote. I think in the US they need to address the anomoly whereby you can win the popular vote but not the presidency which happened to Al Gore.

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